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CB_NO3
19-01-2010, 12:58 PM
Just bought over West Ham, am just watching there press conference on SSN, they are the type of guys you want running your club. Typical cockney business men who are great at whealing and dealing, who made most of their money in the porn industry.

They also said that they would be surprised if a Premier League club did not go into administration this season, the un-named have debts that are higher than the clubs values.

Any guesses?

Hibbie_Cameron
19-01-2010, 01:01 PM
Just bought over West Ham, am just watching there press conference on SSN, they are the type of guys you want running your club. Typical cockney business men who are great at whealing and dealing, who made most of their money in the porn industry.

They also said that they would be surprised if a Premier League club did not go into administration this season who's debts are higher than the clubs values.

Great press conference.

Who does everyone think the team in trouble are? Obviously portsmouth are one but i would not be surprised if a bigger team are in a lot of trouble

murray26
19-01-2010, 01:02 PM
Great press conference.

Who does everyone think the team in trouble are? Obviously portsmouth are one but i would not be surprised if a bigger team are in a lot of trouble

I'm sure Hull city are in alot of trouble, might be them.

David_D
19-01-2010, 01:03 PM
Man Utd could also be in trouble

Speedway
19-01-2010, 01:05 PM
Just bought over West Ham, am just watching there press conference on SSN, they are the type of guys you want running your club. Typical cockney business men who are great at whealing and dealing, who made most of their money in the porn industry.

They also said that they would be surprised if a Premier League club did not go into administration this season, the un-named have debts that are higher than the clubs values.

Any guesses?

Or two of the grubbiest examples of what's wrong with football come to smear their filth over a beautiful old lady like West Ham.

CB_NO3
19-01-2010, 01:09 PM
Or two of the grubbiest examples of what's wrong with football come to smear their filth over a beautiful old lady like West Ham.
They are grubby, but they are old school businessman. Its surely better having them than some Yank or Arab whop does not have a clue about football.

steakbake
19-01-2010, 01:09 PM
Portsmouth are rooked. As are Hull.

Delboy4
19-01-2010, 01:09 PM
Could be a number of clubs...

Man U are asking THEIR PLAYERS (STARS) if they will pledge money back into the team.:confused:

Blocks of £50k with a 7% return.
:top marksfor asking...

Danny_Hibee
19-01-2010, 01:11 PM
Just bought over West Ham, am just watching there press conference on SSN, they are the type of guys you want running your club. Typical cockney business men who are great at whealing and dealing, who made most of their money in the porn industry.

They also said that they would be surprised if a Premier League club did not go into administration this season, the un-named have debts that are higher than the clubs values.

Any guesses?

I wish I agreed with you...

Definitely better than who was in charge before but I just dont trust them. They never fulfilled the promises they made while in charge at Birmingham and left them yo-yo-ing between the leagues. Karen Brady has also been (and possibly still is being) investigated for a few controversial dealings while at Birmingham and expectations of playing in the champions league sound far too similar to the crazy expectations of the previous owners. Not to mention that they are already talking of selling Upton Park in favour of moving to the Olympic Stadium after 2012.

On the other hand, they clearly love the club and as I said before they are an improvement on what they replaced. Only time will tell

CB_NO3
19-01-2010, 01:12 PM
Could be a number of clubs...

Man U are asking THEIR PLAYERS (STARS) if they will pledge money back into the team.:confused:

Blocks of £50k with a 7% return.
:top marksfor asking...
Man Utd are in serious trouble, but Man Utds assets are worth over a billion which are worth more than their debt so I dont think it will be them YET.

Delboy4
19-01-2010, 01:16 PM
Man Utd are in serious trouble, but Man Utds assets are worth over a billion which are worth more than their debt so I dont think it will be them YET.

Yeah, agree with you but I just can't believe them coming out with asking their players to fund the club.
:confused:

Andy74
19-01-2010, 01:17 PM
Without a word of a lie I am far happier that we just have accountant types in charge!

There is no other model that works or will work long term than simply paying out only what you get in.

Yes, get the marketing guys and the business inded guys to think of ways of increasing the income on a sustained basis but get the basic numbers working!

Speedway
19-01-2010, 01:21 PM
They are grubby, but they are old school businessman. Its surely better having them than some Yank or Arab whop does not have a clue about football.

The lesser of two evils, definitely.

jacomo
19-01-2010, 01:29 PM
Man Utd are in serious trouble, but Man Utds assets are worth over a billion which are worth more than their debt so I dont think it will be them YET.

No, they're not.

Definitely the Glazers are helping themselves to huge profits, but - for the time being at least - the club is pretty secure.

Liverpool are in more trouble, as they may drop out of the CL and Anfield just isn't bringing them enough to compete with the big boys. But this is probably a case of slow decline, rather than sudden shock.

Lots of other clubs are losing money though, without a billionaire to bail them out.

CB_NO3
19-01-2010, 01:41 PM
No, they're not.

Definitely the Glazers are helping themselves to huge profits, but - for the time being at least - the club is pretty secure.

Liverpool are in more trouble, as they may drop out of the CL and Anfield just isn't bringing them enough to compete with the big boys. But this is probably a case of slow decline, rather than sudden shock.

Lots of other clubs are losing money though, without a billionaire to bail them out.
Winning 3 titles in a row, being European and World Champions aswell as the league cup champions, runners up in the Champions League the following year, sell your best player for 80 million and they are now operating at a loss. Talk of selling Old Trafford and Carrington Road, that to me sounds like a team in trouble. They are paying 40 million a year in interest to this massive loan, thats not including the loan payments itself. The club itself is running at a profit and they had their record year in income.

Liberal Hibby
19-01-2010, 01:42 PM
If the fans can't run the club then boring businessmen as Andy 74 says are about as good as it gets.

BTW the Beeb is reporting that Portsmouth's attempt to overturn their winding up petition from the taxman has been dismissed.

Edit - report here: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8468078.stm

Nice to see lawyers remain in touch with popular culture...

HibbyAndy
19-01-2010, 02:05 PM
They have a 7 year plan tae get into the CL :hilarious :hilarious

blackpoolhibs
19-01-2010, 02:34 PM
Football and porn. :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

WeAreHibs
19-01-2010, 02:47 PM
Balls being the common denominator:wink:

crewetollhibee
19-01-2010, 03:16 PM
West Ham are now owned by TWO Arthur Daleys. Anyone know if either has a submarine licence ? :devil:

Jack
19-01-2010, 03:29 PM
I haven’t seen the interview.

How can you effectively own a football club you don’t have feelings for? How can they be West Ham owners if they are not in some way fans? If they're fans why did they buy Birmingham previously?

Perhaps being too close to your own club is a bit perilous, lots of examples of that, but owning someone else’s club just isn’t right, lots of examples of that too.

Its what wrong with football these days.

Yours sincerely

Right Auld Fashioned Supporter Who’s In A Bit Of A Grumpy Mood Today.

PS A couple of Arthur Daleys nearly turned us to dust!

NORTHERNHIBBY
19-01-2010, 04:27 PM
Football and porn. :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

Lets all give them a big hand.....

HIBERNIAN-0762
19-01-2010, 04:33 PM
Just bought over West Ham, am just watching there press conference on SSN, they are the type of guys you want running your club. Typical cockney business men who are great at whealing and dealing, who made most of their money in the porn industry.

They also said that they would be surprised if a Premier League club did not go into administration this season, the un-named have debts that are higher than the clubs values.

Any guesses?


Yeah they are a pair of diamond geezers all right, porn merchants ain't they

:cool2:

krobertson12
19-01-2010, 05:11 PM
I haven’t seen the interview.

How can you effectively own a football club you don’t have feelings for? How can they be West Ham owners if they are not in some way fans? If they're fans why did they buy Birmingham previously?

Perhaps being too close to your own club is a bit perilous, lots of examples of that, but owning someone else’s club just isn’t right, lots of examples of that too.

Its what wrong with football these days.

Yours sincerely

Right Auld Fashioned Supporter Who’s In A Bit Of A Grumpy Mood Today.

PS A couple of Arthur Daleys nearly turned us to dust!

They said a lot of people (shareholders) made money from the Birmingham deal, talking about 3 or 4 times the original money put in. perhaps they saw Birmingham as a business deal while not killing the club.

Dont get me wrong, i think we have 1 of the top guys of scottish football running our club, but Sullivan and Gold arent exactly a bad couple either.

KerPlunk
19-01-2010, 05:54 PM
Balls being the common denominator:wink:

Hmmm...........some might say that fannies are the common denominator. :cool2:

Haymaker
20-01-2010, 04:27 AM
I wish I agreed with you...

Definitely better than who was in charge before but I just dont trust them. They never fulfilled the promises they made while in charge at Birmingham and left them yo-yo-ing between the leagues. Karen Brady has also been (and possibly still is being) investigated for a few controversial dealings while at Birmingham and expectations of playing in the champions league sound far too similar to the crazy expectations of the previous owners. Not to mention that they are already talking of selling Upton Park in favour of moving to the Olympic Stadium after 2012.

On the other hand, they clearly love the club and as I said before they are an improvement on what they replaced. Only time will tell


S&G are the best that was on offer...

Birmingham were steadied and have a solid foundation because of them, however I would be very disappointed if Brady is installed, she is not a very good director and puts too much out into the public domain (as several people I know connected with football have said)

With the move to the Olympic stadium... well there must be a reason. UP probably wont bring in much and its not like the irons need to open up more seats... If the deal was similar to Man citys with the council and paying little in rent and renovation then it might be a good deal... I wouldnt want the Irons moving in my honest opinion as a supporter