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Sergey
04-01-2010, 08:05 PM
Anyone see that Aussie guy (Fleet) earlier?

Absolutely 3 sheets before he got on stage and he even managed to hit a double 1 while going for treble 20.

Pub darts in every sense :greengrin

Houchy
05-01-2010, 06:45 AM
Anyone see that Aussie guy (Fleet) earlier?

Absolutely 3 sheets before he got on stage and he even managed to hit a double 1 while going for treble 20.

Pub darts in every sense :greengrin

Never watched at as I just can't get into it after watching the PDC darts. They should maybe have the cooncil darts on leading up to the PDC as a warm up rather than after and they'd probably get more viewers.

Might start watching if it's this funny though. Did he hit double 19 after or did he go double 3, double 6???:greengrin

J-C
05-01-2010, 09:03 AM
Anyone see that Aussie guy (Fleet) earlier?

Absolutely 3 sheets before he got on stage and he even managed to hit a double 1 while going for treble 20.

Pub darts in every sense :greengrin


Watched that yesterday, both guys were truly awful, I haven't played in years but could still do better than that Aussie bloke.:greengrin

blackpoolhibs
05-01-2010, 10:42 AM
Watched a bit of it last night, one guy had a 32 dart finish. :faf: Hankey and adams are the only two i have heard of. I wont be watching any more of this pish.

Killiehibbie
05-01-2010, 10:47 AM
Watched a bit of it last night, one guy had a 32 dart finish. :faf: Hankey and adams are the only two i have heard of. I wont be watching any more of this pish.

We've all heard of Robert Wagner :wink:

H18sry
05-01-2010, 12:26 PM
Anyone see that Aussie guy (Fleet) earlier?

Absolutely 3 sheets before he got on stage and he even managed to hit a double 1 while going for treble 20.

Pub darts in every sense :greengrin

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/other_sports/darts/8440534.stm :kdarts::kdarts::kdarts: :devil:

Houchy
05-01-2010, 12:44 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/other_sports/darts/8440534.stm :kdarts::kdarts::kdarts: :devil:

You have to feel sorry for the guy but it was like he'd never thrown a dart before. I remember watching a prelim round last year in the PDC and these guys were nowhere near as bad as him last night.

Maybe if he got rid of the fake fag in his hand, he'd stop dropping his darts!!!

Sergey
05-01-2010, 12:51 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/other_sports/darts/8440534.stm :kdarts::kdarts::kdarts: :devil:

That doesn't get any better 2nd time around.

Give him his due, he'd fit right in to my local pub team :greengrin

Houchy
05-01-2010, 12:54 PM
That doesn't get any better 2nd time around.

Give him his due, he'd fit right in to my local pub team :greengrin

He'd be better holding the darts while someone chucks the board at him!!!:greengrin

Hainan Hibs
05-01-2010, 01:10 PM
That was hilarious:faf:

After watching the PDC and hearing "one hundred and forty, one hundred, one hundred and eiiiighty!!" after most shots, I go and watch that and hear "twenty two, nine, eleven, " :faf:

Houchy
05-01-2010, 01:24 PM
That was hilarious:faf:

After watching the PDC and hearing "one hundred and forty, one hundred, one hundred and eiiiighty!!" after most shots, I go and watch that and hear "twenty two, nine, eleven, " :faf:


...There was even a "five" in there. 2 single 1's and a treble 1 by him.:faf:

ArabHibee
05-01-2010, 01:32 PM
Well, I'm enjoying it. :kdarts:

whereswallace?
05-01-2010, 01:42 PM
The standard of darts is embarrasing! Im not joking,iv played darts in the pub with guys that are better than this! Once i get used to my new xmas darts i think im going to enter next year :greengrin

Sergey
05-01-2010, 02:43 PM
You have to feel sorry for the guy but it was like he'd never thrown a dart before. I remember watching a prelim round last year in the PDC and these guys were nowhere near as bad as him last night.

Maybe if he got rid of the fake fag in his hand, he'd stop dropping his darts!!!

I was actually at the Ally Pally and witnessed the match you refer to.

IIRC, it was a geezer from NZ who played a Japanese lad. Best of 9 legs. I recall the whole of the crowd booing mid-way through the 1st leg and Sky pulling it from the TV.

The NZ lad won and was duly knocked out in the next round without winning a leg.

Tinyclothes
05-01-2010, 03:25 PM
I was at the Ally Pally for the semi's and the final at the weekend so it's hard to watch the BDO. It's quite endearing in a way though.

Hibbie_Cameron
05-01-2010, 04:11 PM
The BDO actually used to be half decent, with the likes of Les Wallace, Barney, Klassen, Whitlock, Webster, Fordham etc. All are now in the PDC (excluding wallace) and year by year the standard drops dramatically.

No hopers in the PDC like Colin Monk, Steve "Muffin Man" Hine and Chris Mason would make the semi's atleast in the BDO if they avodied eachother in the draw. The harsh reality is these guys are making more money getting knocked out in round 1 of the PDC than those in the later rounds of the BDO.

Either Hankey, Adams or O'Shea will win BDO

Houchy
05-01-2010, 04:15 PM
I was actually at the Ally Pally and witnessed the match you refer to.

IIRC, it was a geezer from NZ who played a Japanese lad. Best of 9 legs. I recall the whole of the crowd booing mid-way through the 1st leg and Sky pulling it from the TV.

The NZ lad won and was duly knocked out in the next round without winning a leg.

That's the very one. Sky switched to an interview with the players playing in the next game.

Think you're right about the nationalities:agree:

Hibbie_Cameron
05-01-2010, 04:20 PM
Jesus i just saw that Australian guy on the link. He is/was utterly hopeless

Danderhall Hibs
06-01-2010, 09:02 PM
See the Scottish guy that was playing tonight - "Hendo" or something - was that a Hutchy Vale scarf he had on as he came out to play?

Lets....Play....Darts!

Hibbie_Cameron
06-01-2010, 09:13 PM
See the Scottish guy that was playing tonight - "Hendo" or something - was that a Hutchy Vale scarf he had on as he came out to play?

Lets....Play....Darts!

Think it was Huntly.

Did he lose? He was soaking in sweat before the end of the first leg!

Removed
07-01-2010, 08:01 PM
Just watched the Hankey Chisnall Qtr final - what an exciting darts match that was :thumbsup:

Hibbie_Cameron
07-01-2010, 09:46 PM
Delighted Hankey is out:thumbsup:

Some crackers from Tony Green over the last few days:

Martin Adams is sitting on a 3 dart average of 90.7. Green comes out with this corker "That sort of average will win the championship". Taking into consideration that half the PDC on a bad day average 95-100, i could not help but s******.

Green in another match said "great leg there". The player in question won the leg after 27 darts!! Simon Whitlock won a set against James Wade last week in 34 darts:faf:

Yet again he was commenting on "the amazing atmosphere at the Lakeside" that is not replicated anywhere else. This while the crowd sat in silence, with hardly anyone even watching the game.

Pretty Boy
08-01-2010, 10:31 AM
Tony O'Shea really needs to get himself to the PDC sharpish or he'll be dragged down to the level of those around him, he gave a fairly good account of himself at the Grand Slam before Taylor finally ran away with it.

The only other 2 players who wouldn't look out of place in the PDC are Martin Adams and Ted Hankey but i can't see them crossing over. Adams always refuses his invites to play in the 'crossover' events run by the PDC and is BDO through and through as it means he can continue as England captain and be the big fish in a small pond. Hankey hates the fans regardless of where he plays so with the more 'colourful' PDC crowds i think he knows he would struggle.

Cod Boy
10-01-2010, 09:44 PM
big rumour is that barry hearn wants hankey to switch to the pdc and is using the second wildcard to the premier league as bait

sambajustice
10-01-2010, 10:38 PM
Barry Hearn offered to buy out the BDO didnt he but the "blazers" knocked it back.

Tonights final wasnt too bad but they had averages of like 92 and 91 or something. The PDC final was something like 110 and 105.

I dont see why players would want to play BDO events!

The players themselves must cringe when they talk about the World Championship in interviews when they know that there's about 20 guys across the street that would whoop their erse's 9 times out of 10.

The BDO is lame and should be put down!!

Removed
10-01-2010, 10:40 PM
Barry Hearn offered to buy out the BDO didnt he but the "blazers" knocked it back.

Tonights final wasnt too bad but they had averages of like 92 and 91 or something. The PDC final was something like 110 and 105.

I dont see why players would want to play BDO events!

The players themselves must cringe when they talk about the World Championship in interviews when they know that there's about 20 guys across the street that would whoop their erse's 9 times out of 10.

The BDO is lame and should be put down!!


I enjoyed it but I've not got SKY so can't compare. It was good entertainment though, but Bobby George should be put down :devil:

Hank Schrader
11-01-2010, 11:34 AM
big rumour is that barry hearn wants hankey to switch to the pdc and is using the second wildcard to the premier league as bait

Wouldn't surprise me in the slightest that. I can imagine the two from runners for the final wildcard spot, Anderson and Lewis, would be a tad miffed if that were to happen. Hearn is desperate for the "pantomine villain" trait the Hankey would bring to the PDC.

Hankey is a good player, I think he would do well with in the PDC.

Tinyclothes
11-01-2010, 01:09 PM
Wouldn't surprise me in the slightest that. I can imagine the two from runners for the final wildcard spot, Anderson and Lewis, would be a tad miffed if that were to happen. Hearn is desperate for the "pantomine villain" trait the Hankey would bring to the PDC.

Hankey is a good player, I think he would do well with in the PDC.

I think Barry Hearn is trying to buy the whole of the BDO for £1m rising to £2m.

jodjam
11-01-2010, 06:40 PM
Wouldn't surprise me in the slightest that. I can imagine the two from runners for the final wildcard spot, Anderson and Lewis, would be a tad miffed if that were to happen. Hearn is desperate for the "pantomine villain" trait the Hankey would bring to the PDC.

Hankey is a good player, I think he would do well with in the PDC.

really hope Anderson does not get second spot. He dodged the final comp before World Champs so he did not go to 32 in world and play Taylor in 2nd round. He should have risked it over the shorter format. Not a fan of Lewis but he deserves it.

Shame Premier League not in Edinburgh this year. Was going thru to Braehead for the Glasgow night but after the organisational shambles that was the Jocky Wilson cup thru there i'll not be back.

Killiehibbie
11-01-2010, 06:53 PM
I think Barry Hearn is trying to buy the whole of the BDO for £1m rising to £2m.

Olly Croft chairman of the BDO says he will listen to what Hearn has to say. Could be the end of BDO.

puff the dragon
11-01-2010, 09:34 PM
Barry Hearn offered to buy out the BDO didnt he but the "blazers" knocked it back.

Tonights final wasnt too bad but they had averages of like 92 and 91 or something. The PDC final was something like 110 and 105.

I dont see why players would want to play BDO events!

The players themselves must cringe when they talk about the World Championship in interviews when they know that there's about 20 guys across the street that would whoop their erse's 9 times out of 10.

The BDO is lame and should be put down!!

Is this not down to the boards tho? I'm sure the pdc trebles are slightly bigger than the bdo trebles, hence the freater number of 180's, 140's etc.

Would explain how Barney went from a constant average of about 95 to going over 100 straight away after switching.

For what it's worth, I can't really be bothered watching the pdc stuff as it's dull due to knowing who will win before a dart is thrown. They tried to build up Lewis vs Taylor but shock horror Taylor won 5-0. Don't even watch games he plays anymore.

Good thing about BDO final was anyone could win it.

Also, it's not a sport - it's entertainment.

Removed
11-01-2010, 09:48 PM
So the PDC play on boards with bigger beds :faf: :faf: :faf:



:hmmm: So if Hearts had bigger goals at tynie would Nade score more goals.........


































............nah didn't think so either :greengrin

J-C
12-01-2010, 09:11 AM
Is this not down to the boards tho? I'm sure the pdc trebles are slightly bigger than the bdo trebles, hence the freater number of 180's, 140's etc.

Would explain how Barney went from a constant average of about 95 to going over 100 straight away after switching.

For what it's worth, I can't really be bothered watching the pdc stuff as it's dull due to knowing who will win before a dart is thrown. They tried to build up Lewis vs Taylor but shock horror Taylor won 5-0. Don't even watch games he plays anymore.

Good thing about BDO final was anyone could win it.

Also, it's not a sport - it's entertainment.

Are you for real, dart boards are the same no matter where you play, in a pub or for PDA,BDO.:confused:


Darts is not entertainment either, it started out as a past-time, played in pubs and clubs but has become a sport due to the money involved now.

Would you call snooker, archery and target pistol shooting sports.

All involve hours of practice to become the best in the world but like dart are not exactly physical like a so called sport should be.

Sport is an activity that is governed by a set of rules (http://www.hibs.net/wiki/Regulation_of_sport) or customs (http://www.hibs.net/wiki/Tradition) and often engaged in competitively (http://www.hibs.net/wiki/Competitively). Sports commonly refer to activities where the physical capabilities (http://www.hibs.net/wiki/Physical_capabilities) of the competitor are the sole or primary determinant of the outcome (winning (http://www.hibs.net/wiki/Victory) or losing), but the term is also used to include activities such as mind sports (http://www.hibs.net/wiki/Mind_sports) (a common name for some card games (http://www.hibs.net/wiki/Card_game) and board games (http://www.hibs.net/wiki/Board_game) with little to no element of chance (http://www.hibs.net/wiki/Luck)) and motor sports (http://www.hibs.net/wiki/Motor_sports) where mental acuity (http://www.hibs.net/wiki/Attention) or equipment quality are major factors. Sport is commonly defined as an organized (http://www.hibs.net/wiki/Organized), competitive and skillful physical activity (http://www.hibs.net/wiki/Physical_activity) requiring commitment and fair play (http://www.hibs.net/wiki/Sportsmanship). Some view sports as differing from games based on the fact that there are usually higher levels of organization and profit (http://www.hibs.net/wiki/Profit_(economics)) (not always monetary (http://www.hibs.net/wiki/Money)) involved in sports. Accurate records are kept and updated for most sports at the highest levels, while failures and accomplishments are widely announced in sport news (http://www.hibs.net/wiki/Sport_news).
Sports that are subjectively judged are distinct from other judged activities such as beauty pageants and bodybuilding shows, because in the former the activity performed is the primary focus of evaluation, rather than the physical attributes of the contestant as in the latter (although "presentation" or "presence" may also be judged in both activities).
Sports are most often played just for fun or for the simple fact that people need exercise to stay in good physical condition.
Although they do not always succeed, sports participants are expected to display good sportsmanship (http://www.hibs.net/wiki/Sportsmanship), standards of conduct such as being respectful of opponents and officials, and congratulating the winner when losing.

sg7nil
12-01-2010, 12:45 PM
So the PDC play on boards with bigger beds :faf: :faf: :faf:


:hmmm: So if Hearts had bigger goals at tynie would Nade score more goals.........



............nah didn't think so either :greengrin

Actually the beds are slightly larger in the PDC... but only due to the wires being thinner, this also makes for less bounce outs.:wink:

No reason for the BDO not using the same boards as the PDC but it's down to sponsorship from the board manufacturers.

To be fair the difference is miniscule, but it is definitely the case that there are less bounce outs in the PDC.

The standard in the PDC is much higher thatn in the BDO with only a handful of BDO players that could progress past a couple of rounds in the PDC competitions... and those players (at least the ones with ANY ambition) are often lured away by the money on offer in the PDC. It's only the few guys that enjoy being big fish in a litle pond (like Martin Adams) that hang around.

Tinyclothes
12-01-2010, 01:35 PM
Is this not down to the boards tho? I'm sure the pdc trebles are slightly bigger than the bdo trebles, hence the freater number of 180's, 140's etc.

Would explain how Barney went from a constant average of about 95 to going over 100 straight away after switching.



I think players raise their game dependent on who they're playing that's why Barney's averages are higher. I love the PDC, hate Taylor though and him being so good makes it extra special when he does lose.

puff the dragon
13-01-2010, 11:27 AM
Are you for real, dart boards are the same no matter where you play, in a pub or for PDA,BDO.:confused:




It wasn't an offensive or whacky question so I don't think it merits the attitude.

---------- Post added at 12:27 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:25 PM ----------

So if darts is a sport, does that mean Taylor is up there with Ali, Pele and Federer? :cool2:

Danderhall Hibs
13-01-2010, 11:30 AM
[/COLOR]So if darts is a sport, does that mean Taylor is up there with Ali, Pele and Federer? :cool2:

Yip all all of them and Stephen Hendry. :greengrin

sg7nil
13-01-2010, 01:36 PM
So if darts is a sport, does that mean Taylor is up there with Ali, Pele and Federer? :cool2:

I would possibly even dare to suggest that he's higher than those!

In terms of numbers of competitive players at "sports", Darts is only second to angling! (although I'm not sure where those often quoted figures come from).

There are literally hundreds of competitive darts players in Leith alone, never mind Edinburgh... OK the standard is pretty low in many cases, but then there is superleague and county level before selection to the International squad is even to be considered.

While recognising that Ali, Pele and Federer all require higher levels of fitness than Taylor, the skill required is on a par. To win 15 world titles over 20 years in a single handed competitive sport shows dedication at least as high as any of the others mentioned. None of the above named guys has dominated their own sport to anything like the degree that Taylor has.

Stephen Hendry also plays a "sport" requiring little fitness, his world title count is less than half of Taylors, and while not wanting to do down his achievements, there are less "competitive" snooker players than Darts players by a long way (I am only counting players who play in competitive leagues and not guys that play social games occasionally).

Anyway some of the highlights of Taylors carreer include...


Phil Taylor holds many records in darts. Some are as follows:

Most overall World Championship titles with 15
Most consecutive World Championship titles with 8 (1995–2002)
Most overall World Championship final appearances with 17
Most consecutive World Championship final appearances with 14 (1994–2007)
Longest unbeaten run at the World Championships with 44 matches (1995–2003)
Most overall major tournament wins (BDO/PDC) with 54
Most major PDC tournament wins with 50
Most PDC Pro Tour titles (October 18th, 2009) with 46
Most televised nine-dart finishes with 7
Highest ever three-dart average on television with 116.01
Highest ever three-dart average in a World Championship final with 110.94
Highest ever three-dart average for a whole tournament with 111.51
Highest ever three-dart average on a broadcast (Internet) with 121.79
Biggest win in a major PDC final: 18–4 vs Terry Jenkins (2009 World Matchplay)
Most overall months at World Number 1 with 57 months
Most major tournament wins in a single calendar year with 8 (2008)
Most World Matchplay titles with 10
Most consecutive World Matchplay titles with 5 (2000–2004)
Longest unbeaten run at the World Matchplay with 28 matches (2000–2005)
Biggest win at the World Matchplay: 16–1 vs Roland Scholten (2007)
Most World Grand Prix titles with 9
Most Las Vegas Desert Classic titles with 5
Most Premier League titles with 4
Most UK Open titles with 3
Most money won in a calendar year
Most money won during career
Sole holder of the Grand Slam

Killiehibbie
13-01-2010, 01:42 PM
It wasn't an offensive or whacky question so I don't think it merits the attitude.

---------- Post added at 12:27 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:25 PM ----------

So if darts is a sport, does that mean Taylor is up there with Ali, Pele and Federer? :cool2:

Your average darts player will be lighter and more mobile than many heavyweight boxers.:greengrin

Cod Boy
13-01-2010, 07:25 PM
big rumour is that barry hearn wants hankey to switch to the pdc and is using the second wildcard to the premier league as bait

rumour was wrong adrian lewis has got the second willcard

Hank Schrader
13-01-2010, 09:05 PM
rumour was wrong adrian lewis has got the second willcard

Quite right too, Anderson didn't deserve it on current form.

Houchy
14-01-2010, 11:07 AM
Are you for real, dart boards are the same no matter where you play, in a pub or for PDA,BDO.:confused:


Darts is not entertainment either, it started out as a past-time, played in pubs and clubs but has become a sport due to the money involved now.

Would you call snooker, archery and target pistol shooting sports.

All involve hours of practice to become the best in the world but like dart are not exactly physical like a so called sport should be.

Sport is an activity that is governed by a set of rules (http://www.hibs.net/wiki/Regulation_of_sport) or customs (http://www.hibs.net/wiki/Tradition) and often engaged in competitively (http://www.hibs.net/wiki/Competitively). Sports commonly refer to activities where the physical capabilities (http://www.hibs.net/wiki/Physical_capabilities) of the competitor are the sole or primary determinant of the outcome (winning (http://www.hibs.net/wiki/Victory) or losing), but the term is also used to include activities such as mind sports (http://www.hibs.net/wiki/Mind_sports) (a common name for some card games (http://www.hibs.net/wiki/Card_game) and board games (http://www.hibs.net/wiki/Board_game) with little to no element of chance (http://www.hibs.net/wiki/Luck)) and motor sports (http://www.hibs.net/wiki/Motor_sports) where mental acuity (http://www.hibs.net/wiki/Attention) or equipment quality are major factors. Sport is commonly defined as an organized (http://www.hibs.net/wiki/Organized), competitive and skillful physical activity (http://www.hibs.net/wiki/Physical_activity) requiring commitment and fair play (http://www.hibs.net/wiki/Sportsmanship). Some view sports as differing from games based on the fact that there are usually higher levels of organization and profit (http://www.hibs.net/wiki/Profit_(economics)) (not always monetary (http://www.hibs.net/wiki/Money)) involved in sports. Accurate records are kept and updated for most sports at the highest levels, while failures and accomplishments are widely announced in sport news (http://www.hibs.net/wiki/Sport_news).
Sports that are subjectively judged are distinct from other judged activities such as beauty pageants and bodybuilding shows, because in the former the activity performed is the primary focus of evaluation, rather than the physical attributes of the contestant as in the latter (although "presentation" or "presence" may also be judged in both activities).
Sports are most often played just for fun or for the simple fact that people need exercise to stay in good physical condition.
Although they do not always succeed, sports participants are expected to display good sportsmanship (http://www.hibs.net/wiki/Sportsmanship), standards of conduct such as being respectful of opponents and officials, and congratulating the winner when losing.

I prefer the simpler definition: If you can play it while wearing shoes... Its not a sport:greengrin Simple when it's put that way really.