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greenginger
14-12-2009, 08:45 PM
Just been listening to a bit of BBC Sports Sound on the car radio. The subject was Dundee Utd daring to charge the weegies for the game tomorrow night.
Some guest jurno or whatever he was said the Old Firm fans are fed up being ripped-off by clubs charging more for their supporters than their own fans and mentioned Hibs as the worst offender.
I've just checked the official site and its £26.50 / £16.50 for Rangers fans and the same price for home fans at the next game.

Does anyone know what we were charged for Greyskull back in October ?

Sprouleflyer
14-12-2009, 08:56 PM
Just been listening to a bit of BBC Sports Sound on the car radio. The subject was Dundee Utd daring to charge the weegies for the game tomorrow night.
Some guest jurno or whatever he was said the Old Firm fans are fed up being ripped-off by clubs charging more for their supporters than their own fans and mentioned Hibs as the worst offender.
I've just checked the official site and its £26.50 / £16.50 for Rangers fans and the same price for home fans at the next game.
Does anyone know what we were charged for Greyskull back in October ?

Well, well, well a weegie journo gets it wrong again!!!

What paper did he write for?

At least Hibs don't go around charging away fans £20 odd quid to watch the game with a restricted view and a crappy TV in the stadium!

LancashireHibby
14-12-2009, 08:59 PM
In all fairness, I'd have thought the point was being made in comparison to non-OF games and the difference in price. But after all the hoo-ha over the commission last year, I don't think RanTic can grumble too much.

CallumLaidlaw
14-12-2009, 09:05 PM
In all fairness, I'd have thought the point was being made in comparison to non-OF games and the difference in price. But after all the hoo-ha over the commission last year, I don't think RanTic can grumble too much.

We charge our own fans more for these games too, so they can hardly moan too much

allmodcons
14-12-2009, 09:14 PM
In all fairness, I'd have thought the point was being made in comparison to non-OF games and the difference in price. But after all the hoo-ha over the commission last year, I don't think RanTic can grumble too much.


Not so! I also heard programme. Guy quite clearly stated that Hibs charge more for Huns than they do for home fans for Hibs v Huns games at ER.

blueisthecolour
14-12-2009, 09:27 PM
Well, well, well a weegie journo gets it wrong again!!!

What paper did he write for?

At least Hibs don't go around charging away fans £20 odd quid to watch the game with a restricted view and a crappy TV in the stadium!

Where is the restricted view in Ibrox or are you talking about parkhead?

Sprouleflyer
14-12-2009, 09:29 PM
Where is the restricted view in Ibrox or are you talking about parkhead?

Correct,the original post mentions the Old Firm fans getting ripped off.

blueisthecolour
14-12-2009, 09:32 PM
Correct,the original post mentions the Old Firm fans getting ripped off.

When you mentioned restricted view and crappy tv that told me parkhead, when stadium was mentioned that ruled out parkhead which confused me where the restricted view was in Ibrox.

Antifa Hibs
14-12-2009, 09:36 PM
I'd see their point, but as Rangers and Celtic both charge Hibs, Hertz and Aberdeen mair than the likes of Killie and Hamilton, they can go **** themselves.

Saying that, we are all getting shafted for ticket prices, everyweek.

bingo70
14-12-2009, 09:39 PM
I'd see their point, but as Rangers and Celtic both charge Hibs, Hertz and Aberdeen mair than the likes of Killie and Hamilton, they can go **** themselves.

Saying that, we are all getting shafted for ticket prices, everyweek.

Aye, that explains why clubs are raking in massive operating profits every year :wink:

Seriously though, if clubs were to cut prices where would they make up the shortfall in income when its been proven at many grounds that lowering prices doesn't necessaraly mean bigger crowds?

monktonharp
15-12-2009, 02:12 AM
Aye, that explains why clubs are raking in massive operating profits every year :wink:

Seriously though, if clubs were to cut prices where would they make up the shortfall in income when its been proven at many grounds that lowering prices doesn't necessaraly mean bigger crowds?you have a point,but,for certain circumstances eg:replay of abandoned game....reduce prices by say 50%. for Aberdeen to charge £22 and £16 for concessions on Saturday,well ,Ithink that is way too much with christmass only days away. their home fans may see it as the norm but to entice away fans to the game,will not work well. (dont know how much it is for the replay tommorow)

Greenway
15-12-2009, 07:39 AM
In all fairness, I'd have thought the point was being made in comparison to non-OF games and the difference in price. But after all the hoo-ha over the commission last year, I don't think RanTic can grumble too much.

Actually it is completely fair. Cat A games cost significantly more in policing costs both inside and outside the ground. It can't be fair that Hibs should have to absorb the costs of "escorting" people who rip up town centres for a laugh.

The journalist who stated that home fans get cheaper entry than OF fans is clearly not very good at his job. I'm fairly sure it's illegal to charge away fans more than home fans.

Mary Hinge
15-12-2009, 07:44 AM
Not so! I also heard programme. Guy quite clearly stated that Hibs charge more for Huns than they do for home fans for Hibs v Huns games at ER.

And so they should in order to cover the extra policing required and the damage caused inside the stadium. :agree:

Antifa Hibs
15-12-2009, 08:54 AM
Actually it is completely fair. Cat A games cost significantly more in policing costs both inside and outside the ground. It can't be fair that Hibs should have to absorb the costs of "escorting" people who rip up town centres for a laugh.

The journalist who stated that home fans get cheaper entry than OF fans is clearly not very good at his job. I'm fairly sure it's illegal to charge away fans more than home fans.

:faf:
Absulute nonsense. When was the last time there was trouble when the Old Firm visited? They're support has dipped like **** in recent years, nothing like it used to be.

And Hibs only pay for polis in the stadium, not outside.

And clubs charge more when there's guranteed sellouts to increase there profits, quite simple really, supply and demand etc. Also, IIRC Hibs have a flat rate for Cat A games, £27 wether your a good guy or a hun.

Joe Baker II
15-12-2009, 09:29 AM
:faf:
Absulute nonsense. When was the last time there was trouble when the Old Firm visited? They're support has dipped like **** in recent years, nothing like it used to be.

And Hibs only pay for polis in the stadium, not outside.

And clubs charge more when there's guranteed sellouts to increase there profits, quite simple really, supply and demand etc. Also, IIRC Hibs have a flat rate for Cat A games, £27 wether your a good guy or a hun.

As you say Greenways post is absolute nonsense and it amazes me when people still spout of this rubbish about policing costs to try and defend their own clubs pricing.

And Rangers may be in the right tonight and I am delighted Dundee United look as if they will not cover their additional costs ("security costs" have been quoted at the hardly earth-shattering sum of £23,000) incurred tonight , but as someone said above, given the OF stance on the ticket levy last year, they are hardly innocent either.

Keith_M
15-12-2009, 10:25 AM
It may not be a popular thing to say but I feel DU really should have given free entry to those with ticket stubs for the first game.

It costs so much for football, including the fact that a lot of fans would have had travelling costs as well, that a gesture like this could surely have been made. I'm not sure if it says so on the DU tickets, but it used to be that tickets stated they were valid for entry to the re-arranged fixture in the event of abandonment.

As for the other point, about clubs charging more for OF games, whyshouldn't they? What's wrong with a tiered price system for different categories of games? They do this in most leagues in the world. The ticket prices for Ibrox/Parkhead are higher than prices at most other grounds so those clubs obviously believe in that policy.

As for the last point, about whether Hibs charge more for Away fans than Home fans; If someone has stated this categorically in the press then I think Hibs should demand an apology, as this is both untrue and against SPL rules.

Franck is God
15-12-2009, 12:57 PM
Football is too expensive in Scotland, simple as that and Hibs are as bad as the rest in that respect. We are fortunate that for the last few years we have had better value for our tickets than some fans.

As the game at United was called off at half time I think all fans that were at the original game and have their ticket stub should get in free or at least a very nominal charge. Any going for the first time tonight should be full price as thats only fair.

It's going to be pretty embarrasing for the SPL tonight as the game is being televised again by SKY, an empty ground for the game between 2nd and 4th is pathetic regardless of the circumstances.

Danderhall Hibs
15-12-2009, 01:05 PM
I've just checked the official site and its £26.50 / £16.50 for Rangers fans and the same price for home fans at the next game.


Is that another 50p increase they've slipped in?


Football is too expensive in Scotland, simple as that and Hibs are as bad as the rest in that respect. We are fortunate that for the last few years we have had better value for our tickets than some fans.

As the game at United was called off at half time I think all fans that were at the original game and have their ticket stub should get in free or at least a very nominal charge. Any going for the first time tonight should be full price as thats only fair.

It's going to be pretty embarrasing for the SPL tonight as the game is being televised again by SKY, an empty ground for the game between 2nd and 4th is pathetic regardless of the circumstances.

:agree: Crowds are down 'cos it's too dear. Clubs are too skint to drop the prices - they'll just have to live with lower crowds.

Joe Baker II
15-12-2009, 04:14 PM
It's going to be pretty embarrasing for the SPL tonight as the game is being televised again by SKY, an empty ground for the game between 2nd and 4th is pathetic regardless of the circumstances.

An excellent point, as you say all Scottish clubs will suffer because of United's stupidity. Would it have been worth all 12 clubs agreeing to fund any such shortfalls in future, ie clubs for once actually operate as a league?

H18sry
15-12-2009, 05:45 PM
Football is too expensive in Scotland, simple as that and Hibs are as bad as the rest in that respect. We are fortunate that for the last few years we have had better value for our tickets than some fans.

As the game at United was called off at half time I think all fans that were at the original game and have their ticket stub should get in free or at least a very nominal charge. Any going for the first time tonight should be full price as thats only fair.

It's going to be pretty embarrasing for the SPL tonight as the game is being televised again by SKY, an empty ground for the game between 2nd and 4th is pathetic regardless of the circumstances.

If your a real Hibs supporter it does not matter how much it cost to watch your team well in the eyes of some supporters :duck:

Greenway
15-12-2009, 09:30 PM
As you say Greenways post is absolute nonsense and it amazes me when people still spout of this rubbish about policing costs to try and defend their own clubs pricing.

And Rangers may be in the right tonight and I am delighted Dundee United look as if they will not cover their additional costs ("security costs" have been quoted at the hardly earth-shattering sum of £23,000) incurred tonight , but as someone said above, given the OF stance on the ticket levy last year, they are hardly innocent either.


You may think it's nonsense, but the police charge for every officer in the ground and also charge for police presence within a certain distance from the ground. They also specify the actual numbers required (non negotiable) and it's irrelevant whether trouble takes place or not. Their position is that the numbers required reflect the risk if something does.

It's about 3 times the police presence of any Cat C game. I'm not suggesting that the whole £27 goes on this, only that the few extra pounds help us absorb the costs when we play Hearts, Rangers and Celtic.

Quite why you think this is "nonsense" is unclear, other than you know how a keyboard works, it's just everything else you have difficulty with. :confused:

bingo70
15-12-2009, 09:36 PM
You may think it's nonsense, but the police charge for every officer in the ground and also charge for police presence within a certain distance from the ground. They also specify the actual numbers required (non negotiable) and it's irrelevant whether trouble takes place or not. Their position is that the numbers required reflect the risk if something does.

It's about 3 times the police presence of any Cat C game. I'm not suggesting that the whole £27 goes on this, only that the few extra pounds help us absorb the costs when we play Hearts, Rangers and Celtic.

Quite why you think this is "nonsense" is unclear, other than you know how a keyboard works, it's just everything else you have difficulty with. :confused:

Seem to remember the guy at Wigan (Dave Whelan?) having a run in with the police (not literally :wink:) because the cost of policing football stadiums in the UK is miles out of sync with the rest of europe, he was arguing that he felt he didn't need as many police as they were given but wasn't allowed to reduce the numbers so was refusing to pay them.

I imagine there will be similar situations up here as well.

jabis
15-12-2009, 09:44 PM
An excellent point, as you say all Scottish clubs will suffer because of United's stupidity. Would it have been worth all 12 clubs agreeing to fund any such shortfalls in future, ie clubs for once actually operate as a league?


nonsense !

So you would have been happy to give Motherwell a load of dosh,because there pitch was more akin to a tattie patch ?

Can just see Vlad rubbing his hands ,and saying "Excellent Serji ..........Sack the groundstaff !"

CheesyHibby
16-12-2009, 12:26 PM
on the subject of clubs charging different prices for home and away supporters, im not sure if this does go on or not. Taking Kilmarnock as an example, it is only £5 for u16s to get into the Moffat stand (opp away fans) and yet for the away stand its only under12s that get in for under a fiver, 12 - 18 year old hibbies pay 14 quid. Perhaps splitting hairs but is this fair? :confused:

CheesyHibby
16-12-2009, 12:32 PM
oh and in terms of the police, completely agree with the poster that quoted dave whelan. there are far too many police/stewards at er for say a hibs-falkirk game, where there is perhaps a 0.000000000000001% chance of trouble (scientifically worked out) :greengrin Im not saying don't have them, just maybe not in such great numbers.

Franck is God
16-12-2009, 01:01 PM
I think Hibs have to introduce a pricing policy that will help us fill ER every week.

I like the availability of the full and half season ticket but think that they have to expand the payment plan idea. I'd also like to see them selling tickets in blocks of 3 or 6 at discounted rates too. Grouping CAT A & B games at a discount might encourage walk up fans to go to more games rather than just pick and choose depending on opposition?

To buy tickets for Falkirk, Motherwell & Rangers individually has cost me £71, I would have been happy to have paid £60-65 in advance and bought all three at the same time. Maybe others like myself that can't afford the season ticket options could/would take advantage of an offer like this?