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Ed De Gramo
11-10-2009, 09:59 PM
The previous Xmas number 1's...

2005 - Shayne Ward
2006 - Leona Lewis
2007 - Leon Jackson
2008 - Alexandra Burke
2009 - Whichever mutant crawls out the X-Fixtor studio

is it fair to say that Simon Cowell and his band of sympathy bandits have ruined this once great tradition that saw the likes of:

Cliff Richard, Spice Girls, Bob The Builder, Mr Blobby, Band Aid etc..

The above artists had to fight it out with other artists/bands for the right to be number 1...now it seems, all you need is a sob story and a some talent in your pinkie and Cowell will brainwash the public into making you number 1...

Should the Christmas number one be retired? I think so as it's not even a contest anymore :boo hoo:

lapsedhibee
11-10-2009, 10:03 PM
Should the Christmas number one be retired? I think so as it's not even a contest anymore :boo hoo:

How would you stop there being a Christmas number one though? Abolish Christmas, or abolish the counting of record sales during that week?

jonty
11-10-2009, 10:03 PM
The previous Xmas number 1's...

2005 - Shayne Ward
2006 - Leona Lewis
2007 - Leon Jackson
2008 - Alexandra Burke
2009 - Whichever mutant crawls out the X-Fixtor studio

is it fair to say that Simon Cowell and his band of sympathy bandits have ruined this once great tradition that saw the likes of:

Cliff Richard, Spice Girls, Bob The Builder, Mr Blobby, Band Aid etc..

The above artists had to fight it out with other artists/bands for the right to be number 1...now it seems, all you need is a sob story and a some talent in your pinkie and Cowell will brainwash the public into making you number 1...

Should the Christmas number one be retired? I think so as it's not even a contest anymore :boo hoo:

You had me until that point :greengrin
Even Cliff was only bringing out songs about xmas time so he could rake it in (wasn't he? or is that just a bad memory)?

Ed De Gramo
11-10-2009, 10:04 PM
How would you stop there being a Christmas number one though? Abolish Christmas, or abolish the counting of record sales during that week?

I don't mean abolish it...I mean just make it less as noticeable....Cowell has ruined a once great tradition...:grr:

Hibbyradge
11-10-2009, 10:07 PM
I don't mean abolish it...I mean just make it less as noticeable....Cowell has ruined a once great tradition...:grr:

:faf:

1875godsgift
11-10-2009, 10:07 PM
I don't mean abolish it...I mean just make it less as noticeable....Cowell has ruined a once great tradition...:grr:

Well maybe he'll get so successful he'll think our christmas no.1 league is holding him back and will try to join another league?
It's all the rage these days......:duck:

lapsedhibee
11-10-2009, 10:15 PM
I don't mean abolish it...I mean just make it less as noticeable....Cowell has ruined a once great tradition...:grr:

Abolish Simon Cowell then?

Storar
11-10-2009, 10:16 PM
Animals!

Ed De Gramo
11-10-2009, 10:25 PM
Animals!

Just Mutants the now :wink::cool2:

Toaods
11-10-2009, 10:31 PM
The charts mean Jack 5hit now anyway.

Ed De Gramo
11-10-2009, 10:34 PM
The charts mean Jack 5hit now anyway.

True...but Cowell's circus acts really take the p!ss....:agree:

Speedy
12-10-2009, 12:42 AM
I thought this was going to be a thread discussing which dead celebrity would get christmas number 1.

Beefster
12-10-2009, 06:51 AM
I don't mean abolish it...I mean just make it less as noticeable....Cowell has ruined a once great tradition...:grr:

By stopping Amazon, iTunes and the BBC reporting it?

Will I be able to mention it at Xmas dinner?

Danderhall Hibs
12-10-2009, 07:06 AM
I thought this was going to be a thread discussing which dead celebrity would get christmas number 1.

:hilarious So did I - I thought Jade had pre-recorded something for followers to challenge the rushed Boyzone release.

Hank Schrader
12-10-2009, 07:39 AM
The previous Xmas number 1's...

2005 - Shayne Ward
2006 - Leona Lewis
2007 - Leon Jackson
2008 - Alexandra Burke
2009 - Whichever mutant crawls out the X-Fixtor studio

is it fair to say that Simon Cowell and his band of sympathy bandits have ruined this once great tradition that saw the likes of:

Cliff Richard, Spice Girls, Bob The Builder, Mr Blobby, Band Aid etc..

The above artists had to fight it out with other artists/bands for the right to be number 1...now it seems, all you need is a sob story and a some talent in your pinkie and Cowell will brainwash the public into making you number 1...

Should the Christmas number one be retired? I think so as it's not even a contest anymore :boo hoo:

So Gramo, you are not fan of Simon Cowell and his X Factor brand and the subsequent Xmas number ones which follow. But you rate novelty acts like Bob the Builder ahead of them? Strange....I ain't no X Factor fan but I rate anything that show has produced ahead of Bob the ******ing Builder.

Now, here is a wee challenge for you, go and do a bit of digging around and tell me who was the mastermind behind Mr Blobbys Xmas no 1.

I await your answer....

Danderhall Hibs
12-10-2009, 07:42 AM
you rate novelty acts like Bob the Builder ahead of them? Strange....I ain't no X Factor fan but I rate anything that show has produced ahead of Bob the ******ing Builder.



Only Leona Lewis :drool: is better than Bob the Builder.

blackpoolhibs
12-10-2009, 09:50 AM
St winifred's school choir was the last band that truly made a proper xmas song. These new ones, are just diluting the quality we all crave. Get back to this type of act, and yes margo, we can grab that great tradition back from the manufactured tripe we get today.:faf:

Ed De Gramo
12-10-2009, 11:02 AM
So Gramo, you are not fan of Simon Cowell and his X Factor brand and the subsequent Xmas number ones which follow. But you rate novelty acts like Bob the Builder ahead of them? Strange....I ain't no X Factor fan but I rate anything that show has produced ahead of Bob the ******ing Builder.

Now, here is a wee challenge for you, go and do a bit of digging around and tell me who was the mastermind behind Mr Blobbys Xmas no 1.

I await your answer....

Written: Phillip Raxster
Producer: Paul Shaw & David Rodgers

Hank Schrader
12-10-2009, 11:40 AM
Written: Phillip Raxster
Producer: Paul Shaw & David Rodgers

Yeah, and Simon Cowell writes and produces all the X Factor stuff as well?:confused: No, he is simply the brains behind the concept.

Simon Cowell was behind Mr Blobby hit (http://www.virginmedia.com/music/pictures/toptens/most-controversial-christmas-songs.php)

:wink:

Hiber-nation
12-10-2009, 12:14 PM
is it fair to say that Simon Cowell and his band of sympathy bandits have ruined this once great tradition


I take it these Christmas classics are part of that great tradition you're referring to...

1996 Spice Girls - 2 Become 1
1997 Spice Girls - Too Much
1998 Spice Girls - Goodbye
1999 Westlife - I Have A Dream / Seasons In The Sun

Teo10
12-10-2009, 12:49 PM
Bring back EAST 17-Stay Another Day!!!!

Chuckie
12-10-2009, 01:57 PM
Not in the same league as the Spice Girls or Bob The Builder.

But good nonetheless.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4N3N1MlvVc4

Hank Schrader
12-10-2009, 02:03 PM
Not in the same league as the Spice Girls or Bob The Builder.

But good nonetheless.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4N3N1MlvVc4

I bought that single, my only ever contribution towards a Xmas number one. From memory it stopped The Darkness getting to the top that Xmas. Good.

Ed De Gramo
12-10-2009, 03:36 PM
Not in the same league as the Spice Girls or Bob The Builder.

But good nonetheless.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4N3N1MlvVc4

TUUUUUNAGE! :agree:

greenlex
12-10-2009, 03:46 PM
Only Leona Lewis :drool: is better than Bob the Builder.
Dunno I'd give Mr Blobby one likes :greengrin

Ed De Gramo
12-10-2009, 03:47 PM
Dunno I'd give Mr Blobby one likes :greengrin

You'll have to go to Uganda then :wink:

Nando™
12-10-2009, 04:06 PM
:hahaha:

PC Stamp
12-10-2009, 04:32 PM
Animals!

Only ever reached no.1 with "House of the Rising Sun" which was released in June 1964 so clearly not a Christmas no.1. :wink:

Brizo
12-10-2009, 05:07 PM
St winifred's school choir was the last band that truly made a proper xmas song. These new ones, are just diluting the quality we all crave. Get back to this type of act, and yes margo, we can grab that great tradition back from the manufactured tripe we get today.:faf:

The golden age of the Christmas single was the 70s imho ..... Wizzard , Slade etc etc. Most yuletide tunes since have been p@sh with the notable exception of Sir Cliffs Mistletoe and Wine which married life affirming poignant lyrics with a melody as lush as a Norwegian spruce.

St Winifreds certainly rocked the house with "Grandma we love you" but I wasnt aware theyd brought their gift of song to the Christmas single. Time to visit Spotify :thumbsup:

steakbake
12-10-2009, 05:31 PM
The golden age of the Christmas single was the 70s imho ..... Wizzard , Slade etc etc. Most yuletide tunes since have been p@sh with the notable exception of Sir Cliffs Mistletoe and Wine which married life affirming poignant lyrics with a melody as lush as a Norwegian spruce.

St Winifreds certainly rocked the house with "Grandma we love you" but I wasnt aware theyd brought their gift of song to the Christmas single. Time to visit Spotify :thumbsup:

Class turn of phrase, squire. Love it. :thumbsup:

One of my least favourite no1s is the MadWorld rehash by Michael Andrews (featuring Gary Jules) - thanks, wikipedia. It was played literally to death.

In 95, it was Earth Song by Jacko and 93, it was Mr Blobby. One of them is now dead, Noel Edmonds is still alive. Where is the justice, I ask thee?

LiverpoolHibs
12-10-2009, 05:44 PM
Having just checked the list, I don't think there's been an even half-decent Christmas number one since 1967. That doesn't smack of a great tradition ruined.

ancient hibee
12-10-2009, 06:22 PM
Everybody out in December to buy Singing the Blues by Cliff and the Shadows.

PC Stamp
12-10-2009, 06:31 PM
Everybody out in December to buy Singing the Blues by Cliff and the Shadows.

If they change the title to "Singing the Greens ... maybe! :greengrin

lapsedhibee
12-10-2009, 08:33 PM
If they change the title to "Singing the Greens ... maybe! :greengrin

That was Tom Jones.

Viva_Palmeiras
13-10-2009, 03:41 PM
The previous Xmas number 1's...

2005 - Shayne Ward
2006 - Leona Lewis
2007 - Leon Jackson
2008 - Alexandra Burke
2009 - Whichever mutant crawls out the X-Fixtor studio

is it fair to say that Simon Cowell and his band of sympathy bandits have ruined this once great tradition that saw the likes of:

Cliff Richard, Spice Girls, Bob The Builder, Mr Blobby, Band Aid etc..

The above artists had to fight it out with other artists/bands for the right to be number 1...now it seems, all you need is a sob story and a some talent in your pinkie and Cowell will brainwash the public into making you number 1...

Should the Christmas number one be retired? I think so as it's not even a contest anymore :boo hoo:

The only way to pretty much guarantee to trump it?

The number 1 Christmas Toy also launches a "must have" record with a special Willie Wonka style "Golden ticket" to star in some sort of reality TV programme.

Phil D. Rolls
14-10-2009, 11:51 AM
The previous Xmas number 1's...

2005 - Shayne Ward
2006 - Leona Lewis
2007 - Leon Jackson
2008 - Alexandra Burke
2009 - Whichever mutant crawls out the X-Fixtor studio

is it fair to say that Simon Cowell and his band of sympathy bandits have ruined this once great tradition that saw the likes of:

Cliff Richard, Spice Girls, Bob The Builder, Mr Blobby, Band Aid etc..

The above artists had to fight it out with other artists/bands for the right to be number 1...now it seems, all you need is a sob story and a some talent in your pinkie and Cowell will brainwash the public into making you number 1...

Should the Christmas number one be retired? I think so as it's not even a contest anymore :boo hoo:

Jeez, I never thought I'd see the day when I was grateful to Simon Cowell for something. His new approach to marketing music, by using television to increase the profile of his artists is one that would have seen the likes of the Beatles and Bay City Rollers reach greater heights if only they had known.

Phil D. Rolls
14-10-2009, 11:54 AM
Only ever reached no.1 with "House of the Rising Sun" which was released in June 1964 so clearly not a Christmas no.1. :wink:

If only they'd had Simon Cowell for a manager, instead of that talent show judge Mickey Most! That was when you got real music in the charts and had money left for the bus home as well.

lapsedhibee
14-10-2009, 12:01 PM
Jeez, I never thought I'd see the day when I was grateful to Simon Cowell for something. His new approach to marketing music, by using television to increase the profile of his artists is one that would have seen the likes of the Beatles and Bay City Rollers reach greater heights if only they had known.

Cowell could have made even The Monkees famous. :agree:

Phil D. Rolls
14-10-2009, 01:53 PM
Cowell could have made even The Monkees famous. :agree:

Good thinking, why with their own weekly TV show and a top songwriter - like Neil Diamond for argument's sake, they could have had the Xmas no.1 slot sewn up for decades. They don't manufacture groups like they used to.

ancient hibee
14-10-2009, 03:53 PM
Jeez, I never thought I'd see the day when I was grateful to Simon Cowell for something. His new approach to marketing music, by using television to increase the profile of his artists is one that would have seen the likes of the Beatles and Bay City Rollers reach greater heights if only they had known.
I'd like to think that mentioning the Beatles and the BCR in the same sentence is the well known Hibs.net brand of irony.

Hank Schrader
14-10-2009, 04:47 PM
OI GRAMO!!

Did you do this (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8307616.stm)?

:devil:

Phil D. Rolls
14-10-2009, 05:24 PM
I'd like to think that mentioning the Beatles and the BCR in the same sentence is the well known Hibs.net brand of irony.

With decent management the Rollers could have been as big as the Beatles. I'll leave it at that. :greengrin

Alfred E Newman
18-10-2009, 07:57 PM
When the festive season comes around and the old "Christmas Records" start filling the airwaves, you can bet your boots you will hardly hear a song less than 25 years old. I may be an old fart but the so called music churned out now is total crap.

Ed De Gramo
18-10-2009, 09:23 PM
OI GRAMO!!

Did you do this (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8307616.stm)?

:devil:

You're the 4th person to ask me that :agree::cool2: