Katie Price / Jordon / Rape

[duncs]

I've just read the article on the BBC News website and I might be barking up the wrong tree here, but is anyone not a little concerned by the fact she won't name / report the guy who raped her?

I'm still trying to get my head around it, but surely Price who is a role model to millions (a sad inditement on our society I'm sure we'll all agree, but a role model nonetheless) has a duty, if a crime has been committed to at least see justice is done. I'm just worried that already in the UK we have appallingly low convictions rates (which if I'm led to believed is just the tip of the iceberg as far as sexual assaults are concerned; those that take place and aren't reported would be far more worrying) and these poor girls (and perhaps guys) on sink estates or wherever, see their idol not reporting it, are they themselves going to see it as a "no biggie."

Perhaps I'm barking way up the wrong tree here, especially given that it is indeed Price that has had the assault on her, it just seems to have troubled me a wee bit. What does everyone else think?

[Danderhall Hibs]

I've just read the article on the BBC News website and I might be barking up the wrong tree here, but is anyone not a little concerned by the fact she won't name / report the guy who raped her?

I'm still trying to get my head around it, but surely Price who is a role model to millions (a sad inditement on our society I'm sure we'll all agree, but a role model nonetheless) has a duty, if a crime has been committed to at least see justice is done. I'm just worried that already in the UK we have appallingly low convictions rates (which if I'm led to believed is just the tip of the iceberg as far as sexual assaults are concerned; those that take place and aren't reported would be far more worrying) and these poor girls (and perhaps guys) on sink estates or wherever, see their idol not reporting it, are they themselves going to see it as a "no biggie."

Perhaps I'm barking way up the wrong tree here, especially given that it is indeed Price that has had the assault on her, it just seems to have troubled me a wee bit. What does everyone else think?

I'm thinking she must have a book coming out? She's seen the publicity Ulrika got from claiming she was raped and thought it was a good idea.

I don't think the guy should be named either - until he's proven guilty. Look at the grief John Leslie got when he had done nothing wrong!

[Woody1985]

She shouldn't name him publicly but she should have reported it to the police at the time, or even now.

The guys career is ****ed now whoever he is.

[Danderhall Hibs]

She shouldn't name him publicly but she should have reported it to the police at the time, or even now.

The guys career is ****ed now whoever he is.

TBF he could just say I ****ged her, she was gagging on it and loads of folk would believe him.

Is Matthew Wright going to reveal who it was on his show?

[Future17]

I've just read the article on the BBC News website and I might be barking up the wrong tree here, but is anyone not a little concerned by the fact she won't name / report the guy who raped her?

I'm still trying to get my head around it, but surely Price who is a role model to millions (a sad inditement on our society I'm sure we'll all agree, but a role model nonetheless) has a duty, if a crime has been committed to at least see justice is done. I'm just worried that already in the UK we have appallingly low convictions rates (which if I'm led to believed is just the tip of the iceberg as far as sexual assaults are concerned; those that take place and aren't reported would be far more worrying) and these poor girls (and perhaps guys) on sink estates or wherever, see their idol not reporting it, are they themselves going to see it as a "no biggie."

Perhaps I'm barking way up the wrong tree here, especially given that it is indeed Price that has had the assault on her, it just seems to have troubled me a wee bit. What does everyone else think?

Absolutely spot on. For anyone to adopt the attitude of not reporting a crime as serious as that but being prepared to talk about it publicly and name the alleged offender in front of a tv crew, just shows how crooked their values are.

[Gatecrasher]

Selling biscuits for 27p thats asda price... Selling toys for 99p thats fisher price... Selling pathetic rape stories to the press... Thats katie price !

[Danderhall Hibs]

Did he rape Jordan or did he rape Katie Price?

[GC]

Selling biscuits for 27p thats asda price... Selling toys for 99p thats fisher price... Selling pathetic rape stories to the press... Thats katie price !

I really shouldn't but:faf::faf:

[Gatecrasher]

I really shouldn't but:faf::faf:

I appreciate it won't be to everyones taste but I found it funny as well :agree:

[GC]

I appreciate it won't be to everyones taste but I found it funny as well :agree:

One of the funniest things i've read here.

No idea what that say's about my sense of humour.

[Jay]

I think its all for more media attention if thats even possible. Its a sad state of affairs if I am right though. So many women go through the trauma of rape and to have someone publicise herself with these claims is just sick. If it did happen why not go to the police instead of the media. I hope to god that no man is named although I read that she let his name slip during the filming of her pathetic show.

True or false it doesn't need the media circus she is conducting.

[GC]

I think its all for more media attention if thats even possible. Its a sad state of affairs if I am right though. So many women go through the trauma of rape and to have someone publicise herself with these claims is just sick. If it did happen why not go to the police instead of the media. I hope to god that no man is named although I read that she let his name slip during the filming of her pathetic show.

True or false it doesn't need the media circus she is conducting.

I still don't know how Ulrikka can show her face after the way she conducted herself and the same goes for Jordan.

It's a simply horrible crime and these two women have used it or are using it to create a media storm.

Publicity desperate whores!

[ArabHibee]

I used to have a lot of time for Katie Price. Watched a documentary on her years ago, way before Peter Andre and I think not long after she had Harvey. She came across really well and knew how to expolit the media to make herself money.

Happened upon her show on sky this week and watched it. Car crash tv and she seems to have totally lost it. Feel sorry for her kids tbh.

And the rape thing? Well, if it happened, she should report it, not bleat to the media about it then accidently on purpose mention the guy's name to a camera crew.

[Phil D. Rolls]

Does anyone else think that Jordan is showing a lot of the classic signs of Bipolar Disorder? She seems to have been in an elevated mood for some time, increased sexual activity, and basically off the planet with a lot of what she says.

[Jay]

Does anyone else think that Jordan is showing a lot of the classic signs of Bipolar Disorder? She seems to have been in an elevated mood for some time, increased sexual activity, and basically off the planet with a lot of what she says.

I dont think many of us would know the signs of bipolar disorder.

[Danderhall Hibs]

I dont think many of us would know the signs of bipolar disorder.

I think it's similar to being a Hibs fan. One day you're on top of the world (signing Miller) the next you are down in the mouth (get pumped off of Hamilton).

[blackpoolhibs]

I think it's similar to being a Hibs fan. One day you're on top of the world (signing Miller) the next you are down in the mouth (get pumped off of Hamilton).

I dont think Lewis will be happy you have grassed him up.

[ArabHibee]

I dont think many of us would know the signs of bipolar disorder.

Think you may be wrong there. It's been on Eastenders so think everyone now knows how to diagnose this. :duck:

[AK86]

I dont think many of us would know the signs of bipolar disorder.
if bipolar disorder means to "crave publicity and cash by whatever means . To be self centered and a total bint" then yes she has a severe case of it.
Her latest "claim?" absoloutley stinks . Why keep a secret for so long then choose to release it now?
The best thing would be the public and paps to just ignore her from now on , she would soon be forgotten about. But we all we know this aint gonna happen.
If such a thing happens to you , you go to the police not the press

by the way i dinny like her:greengrin

[Jay]

I think it's similar to being a Hibs fan. One day you're on top of the world (signing Miller) the next you are down in the mouth (get pumped off of Hamilton).

I thought FRs description sounded like most of the teenage boys I knew in my youth!


Think you may be wrong there. It's been on Eastenders so think everyone now knows how to diagnose this. :duck:

Aha!! I dont watch Eastenders, there's my downfall.

[Hibbie_Cameron]

I have zero time for Jordan or whatever her name is. The lowest form of celebrity imo and would do anything for attention, as we have already seen over years.

However i would not wish rape on anyone and i hope that she was not raped. But in some strange way it comes across that she is thriving in the attention that being raped is giving her, which is vile in itself.

I dont believe a word that comes from her mouth anyway. I had the misfortune to see the interview she did with Piers Morgan and it was simply pathetic, an Oscar winning performance if ever there was one

[ArabHibee]

I have zero time for Jordan or whatever her name is. The lowest form of celebrity imo and would do anything for attention, as we have already seen over years.

However i would not wish rape on anyone and i hope that she was not raped. But in some strange way it comes across that she is thriving in the attention that being raped is giving her, which is vile in itself.

I dont believe a word that comes from her mouth anyway. I had the misfortune to see the interview she did with Piers Morgan and it was simply pathetic, an Oscar winning performance if ever there was one

Which one did you see? The one in the studio when she was "so in love with Mr Andre" or the one in her house 3 months later when she was "so over him"?:greengrin

[Hibbie_Cameron]

Which one did you see? The one in the studio when she was "so in love with Mr Andre" or the one in her house 3 months later when she was "so over him"?:greengrin

Break up one. I was bored out my brains watching it. All she did was contradict herself from beginning to end.

[lyonhibs]

Jordan is a horrible media slag.

I'll put it on the line and say that if she is "unwilling to name him" (this from a woman who is hardly known for her reticence when it comes to talking a load of ***** about anything and everything to the press in return for a pouting front cover of The Star or some dreadful TV programme on E4/ITV 2) then the "him" doesn't exist, she never was raped and she's just exploiting the misery of real high profile rape victims to a salivating and salacious tabloid press in return for a few bucks and a healthy dollop of media exposure.

Her and Nick Griffin - for different reasons of course - are seriously my 2 most despised UK media "personalities" of the modern age. A terrible example to any child, or impressionable person of any age.

If she was to be sent to the Moon for 200 years hard labour breaking rocks, she'd be getting off lightly in my opinion.

[Sir David Gray]

The fact that many young British girls now look up to, and aspire to become the next, Jade Goody or Jordan etc is a major contributing factor towards what is really wrong with society these days.

Rape is not something that should be joked about and if she has been attacked, she should have gone straight to the police. If she hasn't been raped then the fact that she is now making money from making such an allegation is not only highly disturbing but it's also extremely insulting to the many hundreds/thousands of women who DO genuinely suffer the pain of being sexually assaulted.

To make false accusations of that nature is bad enough but to actually make money from telling those sort of lies is just sick.

Apart from anything else, how she is regularly front page news in many "newspapers" is really staggering.

[Jonnyboy]

Think you may be wrong there. It's been on Eastenders so think everyone now knows how to diagnose this. :duck:

I'd rather stick hot needles in my eyes than watch that tripe :greengrin

[hibsdaft]

Rape is not something that should be joked about and if she has been attacked, she should have gone straight to the police.

what a load of would-be moralistic crap Falkirk-Hibee.

if she was genuinely raped the she has every right to deal with that in any way she likes, and you setting out how she should or shouldn't deal with it is totally laughable tbh.

the anger at this woman on the talkshows etc for daring to say she's been raped is pretty disturbing.

i have no time for her as a person and the media crap around her but just because she's an idiot and gets her tits out doesn't mean she's not got the right to talk about what she says happened (assuming it did happen)

if she's lying then she's an even bigger cynical idiot than i thought but in the meantime all this ***** has no place in the papers, in our heads or in the news. but instead we're going to be bombarded with this for the next week because it will make the talkshows and the papers a fortune.

which is why all the hate directed at her is so misplaced - the big newspapers, magazines and whole London celebrity culture / industry is just as complicit in the degeneration of our collective morals that those above think they have identified

the likes of moralisers such as Rupert Murdoch, Piers Morgan, all the talkshow hosts - they all enjoy their self congratulatory moralising but they're all rolling in the money that her naked body/ blind kid/ plastic tits/ self-abuse/ fake relationships/ rape/ "sluttiness" etc generate.

or lets just blame one daft bint who has - single handedly - managed to corrupt the nations young women, give me peace.

[hibsdaft]

you can't beat a good rant every now and then like :greengrin

[Sir David Gray]

what a load of would-be moralistic crap Falkirk-Hibee.

if she was genuinely raped the she has every right to deal with that in any way she likes, and you setting out how she should or shouldn't deal with it is totally laughable tbh.

the anger at this woman on the talkshows etc for daring to say she's been raped is pretty disturbing.

i have no time for her as a person and the media crap around her but just because she's an idiot and gets her tits out doesn't mean she's not got the right to talk about what she says happened (assuming it did happen)

if she's lying then she's an even bigger cynical idiot than i thought but in the meantime all this ***** has no place in the papers, in our heads or in the news. but instead we're going to be bombarded with this for the next week because it will make the talkshows and the papers a fortune.

which is why all the hate directed at her is so misplaced - the big newspapers, magazines and whole London celebrity culture / industry is just as complicit in the degeneration of our collective morals that those above think they have identified

the likes of moralisers such as Rupert Murdoch, Piers Morgan, all the talkshow hosts - they all enjoy their self congratulatory moralising but they're all rolling in the money that her naked body/ blind kid/ plastic tits/ self-abuse/ fake relationships/ rape/ "sluttiness" etc generate.

or lets just blame one daft bint who has - single handedly - managed to corrupt the nations young women, give me peace.

Practically every other person who has commented on this thread has pretty much said the same as I have but you choose to only focus on my post. There's a surprise. :rolleyes:

I would give a full reply to your post but there's probably not much point so I'll just leave it there, I think...

[hibsdaft]

sorry, only my first two lines were meant to be reply to you, and i quoted you because it was a direct point.

the rest was just general.

[AFKA5814_Hibs]

Apparently, the accused now appears to be a high profile Scottish celebrity.

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/2009/09/18/revealed-man-who-raped-jordan-is-high-profile-scottish-celebrity-86908-21682570/

Tune in next week for the next cryptic clue. :rolleyes:

[Jay]

"I'mnot going to say anything. What's past is past and I just want to forget about it the best I can. This whole thing has been a nightmare. I wish I had never said anything in the first place."

She later texted pals that the matter was closed and she didn't intend to speak to police again.

Jordan also claimed she was"mortified" to receive a call fromthe police.

Sounds to me like somebody backtracking as quickly as possible. :agree:

[Betty Boop]

Maybe some women don't report cases of rape, as they fear they won't be believed, as happens with many of the victims of child molestation. Rape is rape no matter if you are high profile in the media or not. Just my opinion, that no should mean no.

[magpie1892]

I know the name of the person she 'inadvertently' named in the documentary.

I learned this through work (I'm a hack).

The person in question supports Hibs..

[Jay]

Maybe some women don't report cases of rape, as they fear they won't be believed, as happens with many of the victims of child molestation. Rape is rape no matter if you are high profile in the media or not. Just my opinion, that no should mean no.

Nobody is saying it isn't, in fact I believe most people posting are saying what she is doing is detremental to woman who have been raped. It makes a mockery of it.

Jordan above anybody in this country knows exactly how the media works and how she can exploit it. She knew very very well what she was saying and what a media stir it would cause. No way did she say it without knowing the consequences. Its a well thought out and planned affair and she knows exactly where she is going with it. Why would somebody in her position say something like that with no intention of reporting it? Media attention thats all. I truly dont believe it happened and that is a slap on the face for all the women it has happened too.

[IWasThere2016]

Own brand biscuits - 27p - that's ASDA price

£4.99 toys - that's Fisher Price

Dodgy 'rape' story from media whore - that's Katie Price :cool2:



She truly is a vile human being IMHO

[Onceinawhile]

I know the name of the person she 'inadvertently' named in the documentary.

I learned this through work (I'm a hack).

The person in question supports Hibs..

As soon as I saw this story I joked about that, assuming you mean the same Hibs supporter I was talking about

[Steve-O]

Sounds to me like it might be the same person who was accused last time? :confused:

Jordan is a complete erse though, a total joke that an absolute non-entity parasite like her is now a millionaire. Disgrace.

[Woody1985]

Theres an ex-gladiator on the front of a newspaper today saying it wasn't him.

[Steve-O]

Theres an ex-gladiator on the front of a newspaper today saying it wasn't him.

I thought of him, but since he's not been high profile for about 15 years, I discounted him as a suspect :greengrin

[Ritchie]

I know the name of the person she 'inadvertently' named in the documentary.

I learned this through work (I'm a hack).

The person in question supports Hibs..


Apparently, the accused now appears to be a high profile Scottish celebrity.

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/2009/09/18/revealed-man-who-raped-jordan-is-high-profile-scottish-celebrity-86908-21682570/

Tune in next week for the next cryptic clue. :rolleyes:

as soon as i heard about this story i immediately thought about a hibs supporting celeb who has been caught up in all this gash before....:rolleyes:

hope it aint him... but the more you hear the more likely it is!

[oconnors_strip]

from a woman's point of view.......

if any other women was to stand on the rooftop and brag that she had been raped she would be sectioned straight away! i know people deal with the situation differently but this is just the wrong way and i hope someone who has been raped can get their feelings across to katie and hopefuly she can understand even a little bit, the personal trauma woman go through.

if women cant go to the police there are other people they can get help from, a search on the net will show you all these organisations.

[degenerated]

can people please be very careful as to what they post on this subject, no naming names and leave the cryptic clues out too :thumbsup:

[Woody1985]

can people please be very careful as to what they post on this subject, no naming names and leave the cryptic clues out too :thumbsup:

It's all over the front pages of the papers with the accused participating to get his story out.

He's obviously contacted / been contacted the newspapers and willing to discuss. Therefore, I don't see what different from any other alleged story.

[Jay]

It's all over the front pages of the papers with the accused participating to get his story out.

He's obviously contacted / been contacted the newspapers and willing to discuss. Therefore, I don't see what different from any other alleged story.

Not the person thats being hinted at on here. Its a very dangerous game to be playing in my opinion.

[degenerated]

It's all over the front pages of the papers with the accused participating to get his story out.

He's obviously contacted / been contacted the newspapers and willing to discuss. Therefore, I don't see what different from any other alleged story.

where in the papers does it mention who is participating in getting their story out?

[Woody1985]

Not the person thats being hinted at on here. Its a very dangerous game to be playing in my opinion.

I agree.


where in the papers does it mention who is participating in getting their story out?

I think there's an interview with the guy in the mirror stating 'I didn't rape Jordan' unless he is just one of many people who will have to state that over the coming days.

I agree that people should not be named but it would appear that he's trying to come out on the offensive so he's not branded in the same way the person hinted at above was, which ultimately destroyed his career, and no doubt many aspects of their personal life.

Edit ; it would appear the gladiator was her BF at the time and is now selling his part of the story to the paper.

If she has timed this story to win a sympathy vote from the public it has spectacularly backfired.

However, if it is true then people aren't going to believe her anyway for her reputation as a slag. Slags can be raped too. She may be the victim in this but no one gives a **** because she has 30 million quid that people are envious about and all because she has played the media to perfection over the years.

I'm not renowned for my compassion but if the story is true (I suspect it can't be proved now) then she should be given a break from all the sniping.

[JDT]

She is a disgusting human being and this story just proves it. Sad thing is she's a role model for so many kids. Why?!!:grr:

[Woody1985]

She is a disgusting human being and this story just proves it. Sad thing is she's a role model for so many kids. Why?!!:grr:

The way in which the story has come out is not the best.

However, to state that she is disguting because she may have been raped is just plain wrong.

No wonder a lot of women don't go to the police.

[magpie1892]

As soon as I saw this story I joked about that, assuming you mean the same Hibs supporter I was talking about

I imagine so. Press were in Edin yesterday to get a quote and said quote is in today's Daily ******.

[JDT]

Woody Im not saying she is disgusting because she may have been raped. Its the manner of the story. Why didn't she go to the police instead of the press. Thats what annoys me. I agree with your last statement, more women should go to the police but i get the feeling they wont after reading Jordan's story. Which is very sad indeed

[Twa Cairpets]

I find Jordan a repugnant individual, but if you are her, living in this artificial, media created world, then the vapid fiction that is her life becomes reality.

If she was raped, how does she react? She reacts by going to the newspapers because in her altered reality, that is what it is normal to do.

I have no idea of the truth or otherwise of the alleged assault, and if Im honest, other than compassion for another human being if it is true, care not one jot. Even posting on this thread somehow seems tawdry and adds to the view that Jordan has something of benefit to offer the world other than than a masterclass in marketing nothing and (rather ugly imho) pneumatic breasts.

[TornadoHibby]

I'm thinking she must have a book coming out? She's seen the publicity Ulrika got from claiming she was raped and thought it was a good idea.

I don't think the guy should be named either - until he's proven guilty. Look at the grief John Leslie got when he had done nothing wrong!

Saw him in the end stand at Hamilton on Sunday whilst we were waiting behind the goals to be allowed to go to the "summer house" stand! :wink:

[Woody1985]

Woody Im not saying she is disgusting because she may have been raped. Its the manner of the story. Why didn't she go to the police instead of the press. Thats what annoys me. I agree with your last statement, more women should go to the police but i get the feeling they wont after reading Jordan's story. Which is very sad indeed

Fair do's.

IIRC it wasn't a deliberate attempt to put it out there. She was defending the new BF about the alleged rape tape porno and stated that she had been raped and wouldn't be with someone like that. However, I'm not naive enough to believe that she's naive enough to realise the implications.

I could be wrong but I think this was reported initially a number of weeks ago but it was assumed that it was in relation to her childhood when there was another incident. Now that everyone has realised that it's a different event a big deal is being made.

I've known two people that have never gone to the police about being raped / sexually assaulted. Both didn't want to talk about it or for anyone to know and basically they just touched on the subject and left it at that. One of the women would always go a bit ****ed up around the start of December every year and it was hard being with her at that those times but it was her decision not to go to the police and I didn't want to interfere with that.

I'm not saying that KP is right here I just think that there are alot of factors and ways to react. KP's has been to build up a hard exterior and not let things affect her, especially the press.

[Dinkydoo]

Selling biscuits for 27p thats asda price... Selling toys for 99p thats fisher price... Selling pathetic rape stories to the press... Thats katie price !


:faf:

Quality mate. :top marks



In all seriousness though, I truely think she is lying. Simply because of a few factors with the most significant being:

1) She didn't report it at the time - I know, I know, that in no way means that she wasn't raped but married up with the other factors.......Bull*****r alert :blah:

2) She not only didn't report it but decided to tell the world through the media at a time when she's been recieving a lot of bad press for ****ging anything with a pulse, punching people in kebab shops and generally contradicting herself everytime she appears on tele.

If you don't feel comfortable telling the police then how can you be comfortable to make it publically known resulting in the guy who dunnit knowing you're broadcasting it to the world ffs.

3) She backtracked very quickly as soon as the police have got involved. Saying she's mortified.......(why tell the ***** world then Katice??) and wishes she never said anything in the first place - I think everyone else thinks the same you nitwit.

Anyway, thats my uninformed and completely biased opinion. I caused quite a bit of conflict when I told people I didn't sympathise with Jade Goody. I did with her family but not her.

I feel exactly the same with Jordan/Katie, I've never liked her and thought of her always as being a disgusting, manipulative media-hoor so even if I found out that this was a true story, I'd admit it is terrible that it happend; yet it's not possible for me to feel an ounce of sympathy towards her.

[hibsdaft]

am i not right in saying that rather than run to the papers about it she has actually kept this story private for up to a decade and only mentioned that she has been raped herself when pressed about a story about her current partner.

its not certain that she particularly set out to reveal this story (certainly for nearly a decade she has made a point of keeping it secret). i am not stupid enough to think that this couldn't be a bit of cynicism from her but i don't think people can be certain one way or another.

if her story is true then she is the victim and the bile spouted at her is totally misplaced (especially from those who like to think of themselves as the voice of law and order).

some of the views i've heard in the last 24 hrs could have come straight from the Taliban.

[Betty Boop]

The way in which the story has come out is not the best.

However, to state that she is disguting because she may have been raped is just plain wrong.

No wonder a lot of women don't go to the police.

:agree: