Scotland v. Holland

[Moulin Yarns]

cannae believe there isnae a thread already.

[Moulin Yarns]

Scotland having a go, Brown's had two good chances already (listening to the BBC BTW)

[joe breezy]

Aye, I was wondering, I'm listening so any updates that may enhance appreciated

[Moulin Yarns]

big surprise

3 Lithuanians booked in their DEFEAT by Faroe Islands, guess who :wink:
























Faroe Islands2-1
LithuaniaROlsen 15
Hansen 35
Danilevicius (pen) 23

Bookings:
Holst 35
Borg 38
Hansen 40
Samuelsen 50
Mikkelsen 63

Bookings:
Klimavacius 12
Mikoliunas 61
Ivaskevicius 78

[Moulin Yarns]

Norway 2 up against Macedonia :boo hoo:

[SRHibs]

Miller off the crossbar.
Nice move.

[Moulin Yarns]

Kenny Miller smashes one off the crossbar

[joe breezy]

Norway 2 up against Macedonia :boo hoo:

Would that matter if Scotland win?

[NOLA]

miller:grr:

[joe breezy]

Shame about the crossbar

[vahibbie]

BASSA...off the bar.
C'mon SCOTLAND

[joe breezy]

Ulster are getting beat

[Moulin Yarns]

Would that matter if Scotland win?

If we win, or draw, no. but we lose and Norway go second.

[blackpoolhibs]

The dutch are getting closer.:worried: FFS WE JUST HIT THE BAR.:boo hoo:

[cabbageandribs1875]

NI 0 slovakia 1

[Moulin Yarns]

Ulster are getting beat


Ya beauty

[Westie1875]

Was Naismith actually offside there? :hmmm:

[hibee_girl]

Was Naismith actually offside there? :hmmm:

Probably about as offside as Holland were a moment or two before

[joe breezy]

Frustrating no being able to see this, trust the BBC to have that Norwegian / Caldwell disaster and Sky to get this yin

[hibee_girl]

OMG HOW DID HE MISS THAT?!

KENNY MILLER :grr::grr::grr::grr:

[Moulin Yarns]

Naismith hits post, rebound by Miller saved

[Peevemor]

OMG HOW DID HE MISS THAT?!

KENNY MILLER :grr::grr::grr::grr:

:grr::grr::grr::grr:

[SRHibs]

Miller misses a sitter.
Goalies on the ground after the initial save and miller manages to aim towards the only place where the ball wouldn't hit the net.

[Westie1875]

Miller :grr::grr:

[YehButNoBut]

How did Miller miss that, could be vital. :bitchy:

[joe breezy]

Aaaaarrrggghh

Hope we don't look back and regret that

[NOLA]

whats wrong with miller these days FFS:grr:

[vahibbie]

Miller ya tube....how the fk did ye miss that:grr:

[Richard Scott]

1-0 England

[cabbageandribs1875]

engerlund 1 croatia 0 (the customary penalty)

[blackpoolhibs]

Miller just had to score, we wont get many better chances.:bitchy:

[hibee_girl]

David Weir's dive :faf:

[Moulin Yarns]

engerlund 1 croatia 0 (the customary penalty)

Lampard 8 minutes, but was it a Rooney dive again?

[Richard Scott]

Lampard 8 minutes, but was it a Rooney dive again?

Stonewall penalty :agree:

[Peevemor]

French keeper sent off after less than 10 minutes. Penalty - 1-0 Serbia.

Raymond :bye:

[Richard Scott]

2-0 England

[hibee_girl]

England 2-0

Gerrard

[cabbageandribs1875]

engerlund 2(engerlunds best diver and boxer gerrard) croatia 0

[vahibbie]

No a bad 1st half.
Both teams could have scored but we missed the easiest chance.
We're nae world beaters but if we played every game with the same energy we'de be in with a shout.

Gary O' on the 2nd half mibbe.

[Sylar]

I still don't understand how Kenny Miller missed...

It was on a par with Iwelumo, though not quite as bad!

We're playing well though!

[PaulSmith]

Faroe Islands 2-1 Lithuania R
Olsen 15
Hansen 35
Danilevicius (pen) 23

[Moulin Yarns]

French keeper sent off after less than 10 minutes. Penalty - 1-0 Serbia.

Raymond :bye:

That result might be crucial for our qualification, assuming we can win

[PaulSmith]

That result might be crucial for our qualification, assuming we can win

Presume we want Serbia to beat France, Slovakia to beat Ulster and what about the Hungary V Portugal game?

Oh, and Kenny Miller to get tae!

[Judas Iscariot]

Kenny Miller must work really hard in training to be so so sholte eh...

[Moulin Yarns]

Faroe Islands 2-1 Lithuania R
Olsen 15
Hansen 35
Danilevicius (pen) 23


wakey wakey

http://www.hibs.net/message/showpost.php?p=2167864&postcount=4

[vahibbie]

Kenny Miller must work really hard in training to be so so sholte eh...

He'd never have missed that when he was a Hibby:devil:

If it stays 0-0 he's defo going to be the villian of the piece. Ma Grandson could have scored that.

[Moulin Yarns]

Presume we want Serbia to beat France, Slovakia to beat Ulster and what about the Hungary V Portugal game?

Oh, and Kenny Miller to get tae!


info on second place rankings, Norn Irn, Bosnia and Sweden are the ones we want to lose most, but we need to win to ensure our best chances to make the play off.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_FIFA_World_Cup_qualification_(UEFA)#Ranking_o f_second-placed_teams

[Moulin Yarns]

Here we go :thumbsup:

[NOLA]

French keeper sent off after less than 10 minutes. Penalty - 1-0 Serbia.

Raymond :bye:
Domenech = SALOP !

[Peevemor]

Domenech = SALOP

1-1 Henry

[cabbageandribs1875]

slovenia 2 poland 0 we really needed a draw there

[NOLA]

1-1 Henry

Go on TT:greengrin

[Moulin Yarns]

info on second place rankings, Norn Irn, Bosnia and Sweden are the ones we want to lose most, but we need to win to ensure our best chances to make the play off.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_FIFA_World_Cup_qualification_(UEFA)#Ranking_o f_second-placed_teams


apologies it's Hungary instead of Sweden at the moment

[joe breezy]

Come on Scotland :panic:

[Moulin Yarns]

slovenia 2 poland 0 we really needed a draw there

Poland have 12 goals against san marino which won't count. making them 5 points and -1 goals before tonight

Slovenia are 8 points and +1 goals before tonight

[blackpoolhibs]

Steven Whittaker is playing very well tonight.

[Westie1875]

Steven Whittaker is playing very well tonight.

:agree: Was just thinking that too.

[SRHibs]

Time to switch it up now I think.
Not getting any of the ball at the moment, and even if we do get it in their half, Miller just can't hold it long enough for us to get forward in numbers.

EDIT: As I write this he loses an easy ball and almost causes us to concede.

[Moulin Yarns]

why is it a 1 man attack when we have to get a win? Get Miller off, and O'Conner on, Naismith off and S. Fletcher on, Hartley off and Riordan on :wink:

Kuyt booked for diving

[hibee_girl]

McManus lucky there not to give away a penalty

[Westie1875]

Every move breaks down when it gets to Miller :bitchy:

Great save by Marshall.

Is that Commons coming on? :bitchy:

[Moulin Yarns]

Marshall made a great save from Robben.

Commons coming on for Hartley

[James Connolly]

Get that prick Miller to ******, nearly cost us a goal there by losing possession cheaply; good save by Marshall!

[Richard Scott]

Anyone have a radio link. The bbc link i'm trying isn't working.

[Sylar]

Credit to Marshall - he's having a good night between the sticks.

Kenny Miller is absolutely ******ing terrible. Running is useless if there's nothing at the end of it.

[blackpoolhibs]

We need a better forward on now, get miller off FFS.:grr:

[Moulin Yarns]

Anyone have a radio link. The bbc link i'm trying isn't working.

if the BBC isn't working I found this but I've not tried it

http://soccernet-assets.espn.go.com/match?id=233612&league=FIFA.WORLDQ.UEFA&cc=5739

My BBC is working

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/scot_prem/6359533.stm

[Judas Iscariot]

Kenny Miller must work really hard in training to be so so sholte eh...

:agree:

[Richard Scott]

if the BBC isn't working I found this but I've not tried it

http://soccernet-assets.espn.go.com/match?id=233612&league=FIFA.WORLDQ.UEFA&cc=5739

My BBC is working

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/scot_prem/6359533.stm

Cheers :thumbsup:

[Sylar]

Hartley for Commons....

[Biggie]

that ****ing maloney's a greedy ****:grr:

[blackpoolhibs]

Hartley for Commons....

Hartleys done well, cant understand that one?

[hibee_girl]

Kenny Miller AGAIN :grr:

[SRHibs]

Straight at the keeper again.
Superb.:thumbsup:

[Richard Scott]

I'm confused by all this "we need that team to lose and them to draw, as long as we win"

Where do Scotland stand at the present moment?

[Moulin Yarns]

Miller again :boo hoo:

[hibee_girl]

What kinda corner was that?!

[Westie1875]

Not happening for Miller tonight, get another forward on instead.

What was that corner all about?

[Sylar]

Me neither really - I suppose Commons is considered to be an attacking player, but Hartley was breaking the Dutch midfield up well!

Unlucky there for Miller!

[Moulin Yarns]

I'm confused by all this "we need that team to lose and them to draw, as long as we win"

Where do Scotland stand at the present moment?


keep up

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_FIFA_World_Cup_qualification_(UEFA)#Ranking_o f_second-placed_teams

check it after tonights games are over for an update

[Judas Iscariot]

Hartleys done well, cant understand that one?

Your not expected to understand a drunken yams actions..

Don't worry about it!

[cabbageandribs1875]

who took that corner after the miller miss ?? what a total freakin waste :bitchy:

[Sylar]

I'm confused by all this "we need that team to lose and them to draw, as long as we win"

Where do Scotland stand at the present moment?

On the Hampden turf - **** all else matters just now.

[hibee_girl]

who took that corner after the miller miss ?? what a total freakin waste :bitchy:

Commons

[Judas Iscariot]

Kenny Miller must work really hard in training to be so so sholte eh...


:agree:

:whistle:

[cabbageandribs1875]

Commons


ty :devil: he's rank

[SRHibs]

Why are we not getting another forward on?
Miller is obviously knackered now, not to mention completely *****.

[James Connolly]

My foot is about through the tele, every time that knobcheese goes near the ball; torture!!

[Moulin Yarns]

Commons

that'll be why he came on, to make an erse of a corner

[blackpoolhibs]

Burley, get miller off and give us another forward. Fletcher or Oconner will do ya ****in trumpet.

[Westie1875]

Why are we not getting another forward on?
Miller is obviously knackered now, not to mention completely *****.

Naismith looks knackered now too, Burley needs to use his other 2 subs, 15 mins left.

[Moulin Yarns]

who took that corner after the miller miss ?? what a total freakin waste :bitchy:


Kris Commons takes the corner kick from the right byline with his left foot and hits an inswinger to the far post, resulting in: out of play

[Sylar]

4-4-2.

How adventurous.

2 ***** offside calls by the linesman at this end.

[vahibbie]

Naismith looks knackered now too, Burley needs to use his other 2 subs, 15 mins left.

Hook baith of them.
Gags and Fletch on :thumbsup:

[Moulin Yarns]

Why did Whitty not shoot!!!

[cabbageandribs1875]

whitty should have had a go there :boo hoo:

[Westie1875]

Hook baith of them.
Gags and Fletch on :thumbsup:

Leaving it too late though IMO, get them on now.

[Judas Iscariot]

Maloney and Naismith have done nowt in the 2nd half..

Maloney has done nowt whatsoever actually..

Remind me what reason other than playing for Rantic how those two merit a game..

[Sylar]

I understand Burley being cautious, as 0-0 keeps us 2nd, but at 11 points, we're surely going to be the worst runners up.

Let's go all out fighting, and que ce ra, ce ra.

[Moulin Yarns]

Erse on the BBC saying Fletch should replace Maloney and O'Conner should partner Miller up front so we have two strikers

Exactly what is Fletcher if he isn't a striker?

[Westie1875]

Commentator now saying only one sub left for us, did I miss the 2nd one happening?

Garry coming on but its too late.

[Moulin Yarns]

10 minutes left.

Fresh legs now, please, get both O'Connor and Fletcher on

Garry O for Maloney

GOAL for holland

[Sylar]

Campaign over. Thanks Kenny Miller.

[SRHibs]

**** off
Davie weir, terrible attempt at a pass back...

[hibee_girl]

FFS!!!!!

:grr::grr::grr::grr::grr:

[AJWisme]

F***!:grr:

[YehButNoBut]

Typical we were always going to pay for the missed chances. :grr:

[vahibbie]

Commons...FFS hit the target at least:grr:

[blackpoolhibs]

Burley is an arse, get the ****in subs on ya tit.

[Judas Iscariot]

That's what happens when you have a geriatric at the back..

[James Connolly]

Weir was proved not good enough against Morocco in '98; that says it ******ing all!!:grr:

[scott7_0(Prague)]

Was that Alan Hutton not tracking back!!!!:grr:

Weir cannot hold all the blame, Hutton not doing his task, which is a simple one......

Hey ho, come on all who play England!!!!

[Moulin Yarns]

Campaign over. Thanks Kenny Miller.


George Peat, tell us who's to blame now.

[hibee_girl]

Should have been 2

[Biggie]

shows over folks.....missed chances have killed us...

[Moulin Yarns]

close by Garry O

[cabbageandribs1875]

i wish we would get shot o that durty turd-coloured kit that burley has on :grr: WTF has that colour got to do with scotland :grr::grr::grr::jamboak:

[Judas Iscariot]

Weir embarassed again..

GOC comes close..

Bye bye George, ya jakey hertz welt.. :bye:

[Moulin Yarns]

Norway go second if the scores stand

[Sylar]

George Peat, tell us who's to blame now.

I don't solely blame Miller - as the commentators pointed out, it's not THIS game which has stopped us going to South Africa.

Had Miller taken any of his 4 golden chances, it would have been a different game - the comment was out of frustration more than anything (though I stand by that he's ******ing awful).

[blackpoolhibs]

Left if far too late putting fresh legs on, shocking management from the drunk.

[Westie1875]

I don't solely blame Miller - as the commentators pointed out, it's not THIS game which has stopped us going to South Africa.

Had Miller taken any of his 4 golden chances, it would have been a different game - the comment was out of frustration more than anything (though I stand by that he's ******ing awful).

I blame Burley for picking him, and for not using all his subs.

[Richard Scott]

3-0 England

[Moulin Yarns]

I don't solely blame Miller - as the commentators pointed out, it's not THIS game which has stopped us going to South Africa.

Had Miller taken any of his 4 golden chances, it would have been a different game - the comment was out of frustration more than anything (though I stand by that he's ******ing awful).


It's a team game, so no one person is to blame, apart from George Burley

[Sylar]

Norway 2-1 Macedonia.....

Please God....

[Sylar]

It's a team game, so no one person is to blame, apart from George Burley

Correct.

[Biggie]

3-0 England oh goody...let it begin...

[Moulin Yarns]

Correct.


:top marks

[hibee_girl]

It's all over :boo hoo:

[Moulin Yarns]

Naismith shot right at the end, saved

[Moulin Yarns]

It's all over :boo hoo:


Did you lose a load of buttons too :boo hoo:

[cabbageandribs1875]

burley's 8th competitive game for scotland, 8 TOO MANY :I'm waiti with the 0-4 score against norway being the most embarrassing scottish result for a long long time :boo hoo:

[surreyhibbie]

oh goody...let it begin...

tell me about it. Living down here I will get it all day at work and all night in the pub.

Still, I can always encourage them, tell them they are gonna win it then it's all the sweeter when they make a shop front of it.

Again!

fingers crossed........

[joe breezy]

It's a diddy cup anyway

I need to get out of England for 2 weeks in June next year

[surreyhibbie]

4-0 engerlund

[James Connolly]

Burley will be consoling himself with a large whisky right now; that'll go along with the 8 he had before the game!

[johnbc70]

I am sure I will take pelters but..........was Scott Brown playing the second half?

All these threads about how he will play for a 'big' club like Man U, Chelsea etc. well tonight proved that he has a long way to go. Big players do big things in big games, thought he had an OK game tonight, but its games like tonight he has to be a stand out.

[Moulin Yarns]

10 chances created

0 taken

Where are the goals coming from?

[cabbageandribs1875]

**** off
Davie weir, terrible attempt at a pass back...


hopefully grandad is rested for our 2014 WC campaign(AND 2018)

[--------]

10 chances created

0 taken

Where are the goals coming from?


Miller plays, O'Connor and Fletcher on the bench.

If you don't play your best forwards, how do you expect to score?

[Moulin Yarns]

Miller plays, O'Connor and Fletcher on the bench.

If you don't play your best forwards, how do you expect to score?


Right, the campaign starts now, Doddie for Scotland Manager :thumbsup:

[Moulin Yarns]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_FIFA_World_Cup_qualification_(UEFA)#Ranking_o f_second-placed_teams

the table is up to date

[surreyhibbie]

4-1, come on Croatia! :greengrin

[surreyhibbie]

bugger, 5-1

[Richard Scott]

5-1 England (not that the majority of you care :greengrin )

[surreyhibbie]

5-1 England (not that the majority of you care :greengrin )

I f***ing do.:boo hoo:

[Biggie]

I f***ing do.:boo hoo: charlie charlie charlie...sometimes son...sky sports guys says to Ronald de boer "who do you think will win"?....De boer "Brazil, Argentina, and possibly engerland" - fair enough big man...over to you Charlie.."I think it will be an african nation "Cameroon" !!...cue De boers face like "wtf ?".....classic....(you had to be there)

[500miles]

Aye, it's George Burley's fault.

It's Burley's fault that a technically inferior team matched up to one of the best in the world for 90 minutes. It's George Burley's fault I just witnessed Scotland play some of the best football I have seen from then in the last 10 years. I would pay to watch that, and it certainly was no embarrassment.

We passed the ball at times in a way that you would be looking at Holland to. Pride, that's what you can take from tonight. Charlie Nicholas doesn't think we have the quality - but our passing was excellent, our movement was excellent, we were dangerous, and apart from Weir's lapse, we were defensively solid.

What changes should Scotland have made? O'Connor on earlier? Perhaps, although we were making chances right until they scored and he was introduced. Fletcher on? Maloney, Naismith and Miller were always getting into good positions and making chances. Naismith was unlucky have hit the post, it was a great save to stop the rebound. Miller was unlucky with another chance too, and was unfortunate to crack the crossbar. Brown was just an inch away from scoring too. We were unfortunate to have a goal chopped off, which, if it was offside, was marginal. We should have had a penalty as well. We were unfortunate all night long.

George Burley has us playing a brand of football I enjoy watching. Walter Smith didnt do that. Souness wouldn't do that. He's had injuries and suspensions. He's had a badly planned fixture schedule. He's had Boyd, the most prolific Scottish stiker available, turn his back on the team, he's had his captain and back up keeper force his hand. He's had stupid decisions from experienced players - Caldwell and Weir most recently. He's had the people above him stab him in the back. He's had a raging Glaswegian press, who's noses are so far up (thier hun hero) Souness' brass eye, that they started with the "Does Burley have the credentials?" chat before he was even appointed! That same press that could never wait to hammer him and his players.

Fans may well judge Burley to have made some poor decisions - but look at the manager's position. George Burley believes that football should be played in a certain way. Tony Mowbray, our greatest manager for 25 years, shaped his ideology on his time working with Burley. If we stick with George Burley we may well be looking at a team we can take pride in for, not only giving 100% when they're up against it, but take pride in the kind of football they play. It will take time to change.

Either that, or we start the managerial merry go round all over again.

[lapsedhibee]

Aye, it's George Burley's fault.

It's Burley's fault that a technically inferior team matched up to one of the best in the world for 90 minutes. It's George Burley's fault I just witnessed Scotland play some of the best football I have seen from then in the last 10 years. I would pay to watch that, and it certainly was no embarrassment.

We passed the ball at times in a way that you would be looking at Holland to. Pride, that's what you can take from tonight. Charlie Nicholas doesn't think we have the quality - but our passing was excellent, our movement was excellent, we were dangerous, and apart from Weir's lapse, we were defensively solid.

What changes should Scotland have made? O'Connor on earlier? Perhaps, although we were making chances right until they scored and he was introduced. Fletcher on? Maloney, Naismith and Miller were always getting into good positions and making chances. Naismith was unlucky have hit the post, it was a great save to stop the rebound. Miller was unlucky with another chance too, and was unfortunate to crack the crossbar. Brown was just an inch away from scoring too. We were unfortunate to have a goal chopped off, which, if it was offside, was marginal. We should have had a penalty as well. We were unfortunate all night long.

George Burley has us playing a brand of football I enjoy watching. Walter Smith didnt do that. Souness wouldn't do that. He's had injuries and suspensions. He's had a badly planned fixture schedule. He's had Boyd, the most prolific Scottish stiker available, turn his back on the team, he's had his captain and back up keeper force his hand. He's had stupid decisions from experienced players - Caldwell and Weir most recently. He's had the people above him stab him in the back. He's had a raging Glaswegian press, who's noses are so far up (thier hun hero) Souness' brass eye, that they started with the "Does Burley have the credentials?" chat before he was even appointed! That same press that could never wait to hammer him and his players.

Fans may well judge Burley to have made some poor decisions - but look at the manager's position. George Burley believes that football should be played in a certain way. Tony Mowbray, our greatest manager for 25 years, shaped his ideology on his time working with Burley. If we stick with George Burley we may well be looking at a team we can take pride in for, not only giving 100% when they're up against it, but take pride in the kind of football they play. It will take time to change.

Either that, or we start the managerial merry go round all over again.

Excellently put.

[Lucius Apuleius]

Aye, it's George Burley's fault.

It's Burley's fault that a technically inferior team matched up to one of the best in the world for 90 minutes. It's George Burley's fault I just witnessed Scotland play some of the best football I have seen from then in the last 10 years. I would pay to watch that, and it certainly was no embarrassment.

We passed the ball at times in a way that you would be looking at Holland to. Pride, that's what you can take from tonight. Charlie Nicholas doesn't think we have the quality - but our passing was excellent, our movement was excellent, we were dangerous, and apart from Weir's lapse, we were defensively solid.

What changes should Scotland have made? O'Connor on earlier? Perhaps, although we were making chances right until they scored and he was introduced. Fletcher on? Maloney, Naismith and Miller were always getting into good positions and making chances. Naismith was unlucky have hit the post, it was a great save to stop the rebound. Miller was unlucky with another chance too, and was unfortunate to crack the crossbar. Brown was just an inch away from scoring too. We were unfortunate to have a goal chopped off, which, if it was offside, was marginal. We should have had a penalty as well. We were unfortunate all night long.

George Burley has us playing a brand of football I enjoy watching. Walter Smith didnt do that. Souness wouldn't do that. He's had injuries and suspensions. He's had a badly planned fixture schedule. He's had Boyd, the most prolific Scottish stiker available, turn his back on the team, he's had his captain and back up keeper force his hand. He's had stupid decisions from experienced players - Caldwell and Weir most recently. He's had the people above him stab him in the back. He's had a raging Glaswegian press, who's noses are so far up (thier hun hero) Souness' brass eye, that they started with the "Does Burley have the credentials?" chat before he was even appointed! That same press that could never wait to hammer him and his players.

Fans may well judge Burley to have made some poor decisions - but look at the manager's position. George Burley believes that football should be played in a certain way. Tony Mowbray, our greatest manager for 25 years, shaped his ideology on his time working with Burley. If we stick with George Burley we may well be looking at a team we can take pride in for, not only giving 100% when they're up against it, but take pride in the kind of football they play. It will take time to change.

Either that, or we start the managerial merry go round all over again.

Very well said, however he was also the manager in Oslo and the rest that we should have at least attempted to play decent football and didn't.