Share Transfers Agreed/Cooling off period

[Gus Fring]

I read that slightly differently, the phrase also includes:

“For the avoidance of doubt, any payment of this nature would exclude 2013-14 season ticket monies held by a 3rd party”.

I had assumed that this would be the season tickets bought through the finance provider rather than direct with the club, meaning that some of the season ticket monies raised in February (early season ticket release) would be used to keep the club going and some may be used to fund the administrators. This would mean that it is very likely that a large part of next years season ticket money is gone before the summer again, so they are going to be in for another tough year next year.

The finance deals for next season may be quite different because Zebra finance themselves went bust several weeks ago. They are all tangled up in the faulty breast implant saga. They've been taken over by another finance company.

[Sergio sledge]

The finance deals for next season may be quite different because Zebra finance themselves went bust several weeks ago. They are all tangled up in the faulty breast implant saga. They've been taken over by another finance company.

Hibs use Zebra too don't they? I hope we've got all we're due from them!

[Bristolhibby]

Attached

Michael Ngoo - a whole £4.35 of shares. #bigspender

J

[Gus Fring]

Hibs use Zebra too don't they? I hope we've got all we're due from them!

Yes I believe we did. I'm sure the way the Zebra deal works is that they pay the club immediately and the supporter then pays back Zebra in the form of a loan.

it remains to be seen if that continues for next season though. The new company (Trent) May decide not to offer that service which could likely mean to a drop in Season Ticket sales for both clubs.

[GreenLake]

HWU and the Police must have amateur football teams registered with the SFA. Does that not make what they are owed by Hearts footballing debt's which will have to be repaid? :greengrin

[TonyStokeprano]

I can't find the list of shareholders, is it every person who bought shares in the share issue that's listed?

Can't see them anywhere either!

[Weststandwanab]

Higher Education staff are getting a below inflation rise again this year and these cheating cretins owe a University over £5m? And they owe to the NHS, the Police, the ambulance service and HMRC. Sorry, they add no value to Scotland. They're a drain on our society and economy.

Get them liquidated. That would not mean Education staff getting any more of a rise.


Amazing. As administrators we've paid for a new valuation of the main asset but we're not going to tell you what that valuation is. They have little choice or be accused of "showing their cards".


Hibs use Zebra too don't they? I hope we've got all we're due from them! Two words - The Tache

[Liberal Hibby]

HWU and the Police must have amateur football teams registered with the SFA. Does that not make what they are owed by Hearts footballing debt's which will have to be repaid? :greengrin

There's a better argument that the charge for football training facilities should be considered football debt. But as they've signed a new contract at HWU then it is all - ahem - academic anyway.

[The_Todd]

That would not mean Education staff getting any more of a rise.



I never said they would. I was trying to illustrate public sector finances are tight and are not helped when tin pot football clubs like Hearts withhold money they're due just so they can cheat at football. I'm also trying to point out Hearts have no real net contribution to our nation, in fact if anything they detract. There is no business reason to keep them as a going concern it's all sentimental bullcrap.

[GreenLake]

There's a better argument that the charge for football training facilities should be considered football debt. But as they've signed a new contract at HWU then it is all - ahem - academic anyway.

I guess if having a football team was a way to recover debt, HMRC would be sending their desk jockeys out to play in the Sunday pub leagues.

[itslegaltender]

They are owe the NHS money? Shocking.

[PapillonVert]

If this debt is wages the the DWP would have paid this in full, all they have to do is claim. It happened to me twice, businesses I worked for twice decided, on payday, to go bust and both times I got my wages paid in full by the DWP. This should be the same here, no?

If that is the case, that means the taxpayer will be even more out of pocket due to the cheating! And yet alleged taxpayer-representative 'I'm an MP' carries on working tirelessly to help the cheats get away with it.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Can't see them anywhere either!

Me neither! :confused:

[Smiggy 7-0]

Scottish Power due over £16K..........................time to turn the lights off

[SunshineOnLeith]

You'd have to imagine that many of the people listed on pages 15 - 38 aren't too happy about having their names, addresses and amount owed to them freely available to the public.

Never mind :greengrin


Somebody should compile a list of the ones that are in I'm an MP's constituency and ask him to reconcile what he's doing with FoH and acting for his constituents' interests.

[Weststandwanab]

If that is the case, that means the taxpayer will be even more out of pocket due to the cheating! And yet alleged taxpayer-representative 'I'm an MP' carries on working tirelessly to help the cheats get away with it. A very valid question


Me neither! :confused: Is it because they are not there ?

[GreenLake]

Sir David Attenborough, on 03 December 2013 - 11:17 PM, said:
Your point stands though anyway. If we need to, we will raise more. Bob would effectively be extorting money out of all of us though... Even though he wouldn't get any of it himself. http://www.hmfckickback.co.uk/public/style_emoticons/default/unsure.png




Bob might be putting the shoe on the other foot

[magpie1892]

If this debt is wages the the DWP would have paid this in full, all they have to do is claim. It happened to me twice, businesses I worked for twice decided, on payday, to go bust and both times I got my wages paid in full by the DWP. This should be the same here, no?

I hope so.

[BH Hibs]

Me neither! :confused:

Lost me too

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Is it because they are not there ?

I believe that could very well be the reason, so, my next question is where are they?

[Aldo]

Can someone confirm to me where it shows that they owe HWU £5 million.

Someone has just asked banderson bout it and he says show me the proof and I'll listen?

[brog]

The finance deals for next season may be quite different because Zebra finance themselves went bust several weeks ago. They are all tangled up in the faulty breast implant saga. They've been taken over by another finance company.

Zebra go bust because of breast implants! Sounds like a Benny Hill sketch! :greengrin

[Sergio sledge]

Can someone confirm to me where it shows that they owe HWU £5 million.

Someone has just asked banderson bout it and he says show me the proof and I'll listen?

See attached picture

[Aldo]

See attached picture

Thanks for that. You happy for me to let Barry have a search if this??

List if creditors from meeting last Friday.

[Sergio sledge]

Thanks for that. You happy for me to let Barry have a search if this??

List if creditors from meeting last Friday.

Yeah that's fine. It's from the document summarising the CVA proposal which was an attachment to the report of the creditors meeting.

[Aldo]

Yeah that's fine. It's from the document summarising the CVA proposal which was an attachment to the report of the creditors meeting.

Thanks. Guy is in denial .

[green glory]

Thanks. Guy is in denial .

I've tried telling him about it on Twitter but I've just noticed he has me blocked.

Maybe because I've got a long history of making a **** of him. :-)

[Aldo]

I've tried telling him about it on Twitter but I've just noticed he has me blocked. Maybe because I've got a long history of making a **** of him. :-)
I've just sent him the details on twitter and where to find them. Let's see if he gets back to me. Doubt it??

[jacomo]

Thanks. Guy is in denial .

Do let us know how AllisBarry responds.

Clearly, he feels that actually bothering to read the report himself is beyond his remit as a journalist.

[Judas Iscariot]

Can someone confirm to me where it shows that they owe HWU £5 million.

Someone has just asked banderson bout it and he says show me the proof and I'll listen?

I was getting round to replying to him, thanks for beating me to it :wink:

[Aldo]

I was getting round to replying to him, thanks for beating me to it :wink:

Sorry S. Forgot you were the in conversation. Hope you don't mind?? ;-)

Very much doubt he'll reply tbh

[Gus Fring]

Can someone confirm to me where it shows that they owe HWU £5 million.

Someone has just asked banderson bout it and he says show me the proof and I'll listen?

If he's asking for evidence someone should call the Evening a News and let them know Barry's account has been hacked!

[Aldo]

Do let us know how AllisBarry responds. Clearly, he feels that actually bothering to read the report himself is beyond his remit as a journalist.

Thing is it's FACT and is in black and white. The truth hurts and all that. The EEN/Banderson don't print anything that shows them in a bad light.

[Aldo]

If he's asking for evidence someone should call the Evening a News and let them know Barry's account has been hacked!

Whose hacked it?

[Judas Iscariot]

Sorry S. Forgot you were the in conversation. Hope you don't mind?? ;-)

Very much doubt he'll reply tbh

Not at all mate, the more the merrier :greengrin


Whose hacked it?

Whoooosh A..

#allisbarry is normally :ostrich:

[cabbageandribs1875]

If he's asking for evidence someone should call the Evening a News and let them know Barry's account has been hacked!



indeed :)

[Aldo]

Not at all mate, the more the merrier :greengrin Whoooosh A.. #allisbarry is normally :ostrich:

Too true. His head is either in the sand or up Southerns arse.

[God Petrie]

Notice brad pitt and morgan freeman aren't on creditors list so they must have been paid for their cameo on Sunday.

[Treadstone]

Whose hacked it?

C'mon Aldo.

Barry. Research.

Whoosh!

[JimBHibees]

If he's asking for evidence someone should call the Evening a News and let them know Barry's account has been hacked!

Aint that the truth. :greengrin

[Pray4Marc]

See attached picture

Banderson is a closet jambo, the act is boring myself and others. It's funny he doesn't have a come back to the claims, no doubt he will try and discredit the CVA list this afternoon.

[Weststandwanab]

I believe that could very well be the reason, so, my next question is where are they? Another very valid question somewhere in Lithuania me thinks.


Can someone confirm to me where it shows that they owe HWU £5 million.

Someone has just asked banderson bout it and he says show me the proof and I'll listen? He could ask BJ - he signed the report filed with Companies House


Zebra go bust because of breast implants! Sounds like a Benny Hill sketch! :greengrin Bunch of tits.


I've just sent him the details on twitter and where to find them. Let's see if he gets back to me. Doubt it?? More chance of me being.........


Whose hacked it? I'm Sparticus

[PatHead]

Can guarantee that if it was anyone else bumping Herriot Watt the EEN would have it on it's front page. Wonder if they will comment. In addition someone high up in Herriot Watt should be getting their arse felt over this debt.

[HIBERNIAN-0762]

Wow!...what a fracking mess! :timebomb:

Only a matter of time now surely?

[Aldo]

Can guarantee that if it was anyone else bumping Herriot Watt the EEN would have it on it's front page. Wonder if they will comment. In addition someone high up in Herriot Watt should be getting their arse felt over this debt.

Spot on. As I mentioned no negative spin on the poor souls is allowed.... When it is plain and clear for all to see. He now has the facts plain and clear.

I'd e very very surprised if he replied.

[Pray4Marc]

He will only reply if he can discredit the amount due to HW.

[Judas Iscariot]

Can guarantee that if it was anyone else bumping Herriot Watt the EEN would have it on it's front page. Wonder if they will comment. In addition someone high up in Herriot Watt should be getting their arse felt over this debt.

This needs to be made readily known to all media

[Treadstone]

He will only reply if he can discredit the amount due to HW.

He should try Sidney. He first popped up pretending to be well in with the big cheeses' at HWU until CWG ripped him a new one.

[magpie1892]

Do let us know how AllisBarry responds.

Clearly, he feels that actually bothering to read the report himself is beyond his remit as a journalist.

There's more than one sports reporter at EN. Send it to all of them (bar David Hardie, he doesn't give a monkey's) - including the sports editor - by email.

And the Newsdesk
And Scotsman Sport, news, editor, etc.

[Pray4Marc]

@MarcHryhorskyj: @BarryAnderson_8 @HibeernianAFC

Event: Hearts due HW 5.1 million.

AllisBarry: HW expecting huge cash injection from Edinburgh club.

[blindsummit]

If ever there was any doubt that Hearts should be liquidated, pure and simple, then this report confirms it.

I struggle to find words strong enough to convey my feelings about it, but its disgusting. So much damage done in their wake, and for what? To crow about winning a few football matches.

They are a disgrace to football and clubs like this MUST be eliminated if football is ever to regain any respect in society.

Their craven fans seem to think this is all a lark, but there are real world consequences to this debt. Real people lose their jobs, real businesses go bust, and real taxpayers have to pay more to cover the losses to the public purse.

Well run and socially responsible clubs like Hibs, St Johnstone, Raith Rovers and so on SHOULD NOT play in a league system with clubs like Hearts and Sevco as we are then tacitly approving their actions. We are tainted by association.

In addition, supporters of well run clubs have been cheated out of the money they have paid in supporting their own clubs, as it was a rigged game.

We should be demanding their expulsion from football, and then cheering their dissolution by law. However Scottish Football (and let's face it world football in general) is corrupt and as far from socially responsible as it's possible to get.

Some may say I'm taking this too seriously. Just ask someone who has seen their business fail, or has lost their job because of the actions of Hearts how seriously they feel about it.

[Aldo]

Looks like he's away to seek clarification with BJ before he comments??

[blindsummit]

Looks like he's away to seek clarification with BJ before he comments??

More likely he's off to give David Southern a BJ before answering :greengrin

[Aldo]

This needs to be made readily known to all media

This.

[Aldo]

More likely he's off to give David Southern a BJ before answering :greengrin

Ha ha. That and a reach around blah

[magpie1892]

This.

A reasonably straightforward task, just a bit time consuming.

Press Association
STV
Rep Scotland
all the papers
Radio Forth
etc.,

You just have to work through them.

[SurferRosa]

Banderson is a closet jambo, the act is boring myself and others. It's funny he doesn't have a come back to the claims, no doubt he will try and discredit the CVA list this afternoon.

There`s absolutely nothing "closeted" about this morons jamboness.


This needs to be made readily known to all media

If the media in this country were capable of doing their jobs properly and without favouritism, they would be reacting to it already. Guys on here knew where to look and found it easy enough. It shouldn`t take posters on a messageboard to do their jobs for them.

[green glory]

More likely he's off to give David Southern a BJ before answering :greengrin

I bet he's left the PBS wiping his chin on many an occasion. :-D

[weonlywon6-2]

I think it has to be asked,how on earth are they owe more than 5 million to Heriot Watt??. Crazy amount of money and for what,has to be a mistake there??
For that money you could have built your own training centre

[blindsummit]

Ha ha. That and a reach around blah

That would imply that he had some good manners :greengrin

[Aldo]

That would imply that he had some good manners :greengrin

:-D giver or taker ??

[green glory]

:-D giver or taker ??

He's never a giver.

I'm sure he arrives at the PBS for his daily 'brief' while leaving his Y's at the door, then waddling in backwards with his cheeks held open in the direction of Romanov/Southern/Jackson's office. (Delete accordingly).

[Gus Fring]

This needs to be made readily known to all media

Trust me, they know!

[Aldo]

He's never a giver. I'm sure he arrives at the PBS for his daily 'brief' while leaving his Y's at the door, then waddling in backwards with his cheeks held open in the direction of Romanov/Southern/Jackson's office. (Delete accordingly).

As we all suspected. I still think he'll come back with something to discredit what is being out to him!

[Aldo]

Trust me, they know!

Quick question Bajillions - why has this not been reported more openly by the media???

If it has how the hell did I miss it. Cheers

[magpie1892]

Trust me, they know!

I'm honestly not sure they do. Number of hacks I've spoken to are aware of the report but not the contents as it's not worth their time getting into it at this juncture.

[GreenLake]

They expect to get away with the fraud like a bunch of bankers - too big to fail, too big to jail.

[Barney McGrew]

I've tried telling him about it on Twitter but I've just noticed he has me blocked.

Maybe because I've got a long history of making a **** of him. :-)

Me too.

He seems to do that to people who ask him for evidence to back up his stories, or provide evidence that show he's talking pish :greengrin

[DaveF]

I think it has to be asked,how on earth are they owe more than 5 million to Heriot Watt??. Crazy amount of money and for what,has to be a mistake there??
For that money you could have built your own training centre

A couple of posters offered a suggestion a few pages back. Along the lines of this new total representing the total to be paid over the course of the years left remaining on their lease - Or something like that.

Take a scroll back and see.

[greenginger]

I would guess the £5 million owing to Heriot Watt will be the construction cost of the training centre which will have been included in their lease agreement and written down over the years of the lease. ( that is assuming they actually paid their rent money. )

If the lease agreement is now cancelled it is a good way for Heriot Watt to tidy up their books and get the new sports centre of excellence built without pesky Yams wanting a turn.

[Gus Fring]

Quick question Bajillions - why has this not been reported more openly by the media???

If it has how the hell did I miss it. Cheers

I'm always being told news is about telling a story and getting in to the nitty gritty makes the story much harder to tell. In this particular case there's no target market for the info. Proper fans already know or will find out soon enough and your average punter doesn't care. Mainstream media will always just give a rough overview unfortunately.

In the case of football as I've said a few times, everyone is scared to rock the boat. It's a reasonably close knit community in Scottish Football and you'd only really get one big story before all your contacts and access would dry up and you basically become a leper.

My job is to do all the grunt work and digging as well as keep up relationships with people who can help us (hence my contact at Tynecastle). If the news reported everything I dig up then the papers would be 800 pages long and news programs would be on for a couple of hours.

[Dashing Bob S]

Quick question Bajillions - why has this not been reported more openly by the media???

If it has how the hell did I miss it. Cheers

Because print media is dead. It's nothing more than a few self-serving buffoons clinging on desperately to a gravy train that is bound for the buffers, by trying to ingratiate themselves to their pompous, self-regarding proprietors. It'll be gone soon, particular the Scotsman stable. The places this information should be widely circulated to are reputable sports websites and online publications dedicated to social justice and value-for-money in public services. And Universities.

[Dashing Bob S]

I'm always being told news is about telling a story and getting in to the nitty gritty makes the story much harder to tell. In this particular case there's no target market for the info. Proper fans already know or will find out soon enough and your average punter doesn't care. Mainstream media will always just give a rough overview unfortunately.

In the case of football as I've said a few times, everyone is scared to rock the boat. It's a reasonably close knit community in Scottish Football and you'd only really get one big story before all your contacts and access would dry up and you basically become a leper.

My job is to do all the grunt work and digging as well as keep up relationships with people who can help us (hence my contact at Tynecastle). If the news reported everything I dig up then the papers would be 800 pages long and news programs would be on for a couple of hours.

Re my last tweet - obviously there are exceptions!

[Aldo]

I'm always being told news is about telling a story and getting in to the nitty gritty makes the story much harder to tell. In this particular case there's no target market for the info. Proper fans already know or will find out soon enough and your average punter doesn't care. Mainstream media will always just give a rough overview unfortunately. In the case of football as I've said a few times, everyone is scared to rock the boat. It's a reasonably close knit community in Scottish Football and you'd only really get one big story before all your contacts and access would dry up and you basically become a leper. My job is to do all the grunt work and digging as well as keep up relationships with people who can help us (hence my contact at Tynecastle). If the news reported everything I dig up then the papers would be 800 pages long and news programs would be on for a couple of hours.


Cheers Baj.

[kaimendhibs]

Just tweeted banderson, waiting for reply


Sent from my iphone

[Baker9]

Because print media is dead. It's nothing more than a few self-serving buffoons clinging on desperately to a gravy train that is bound for the buffers, by trying to ingratiate themselves to their pompous, self-regarding proprietors. It'll be gone soon, particular the Scotsman stable. The places this information should be widely circulated to are reputable sports websites and online publications dedicated to social justice and value-for-money in public services. And Universities.

Don't quite get the 'and universities' bit? Am I missing something?

[Weststandwanab]

Looks like he's away to seek clarification with BJ before he comments?? What is to clarify, BJ signed the report ?


I think it has to be asked,how on earth are they owe more than 5 million to Heriot Watt??. Crazy amount of money and for what,has to be a mistake there??
For that money you could have built your own training centreNot quite unless you had the £5m up front or the power to borrow it, Jambos failed on both counts.


Because print media is dead. It's nothing more than a few self-serving buffoons clinging on desperately to a gravy train that is bound for the buffers, by trying to ingratiate themselves to their pompous, self-regarding proprietors. It'll be gone soon, particular the Scotsman stable. The places this information should be widely circulated to are reputable sports websites and online publications dedicated to social justice and value-for-money in public services. And Universities. Spot on again.

[greenginger]

Was the £650k VAT outstanding showing on the initial creditors list?

edit - no, it wasn't. You'd have thought that was an easy enough for BDO to have worked out in the first place.

Also, the debt for Edinburgh Council has dropped significantly. I'd hope they haven't decided to waive some of what was owed.......


The FoI info I got in July explained the Council had over estimated what the Council was owed by Yams because they had assumed they would not have been paid for the PBS rates for the first half of this financial year. However, BDO had to start paying the Rates the day they took over.

The residential council tax is for private lets taken for staff. I see D J Alexander the letting agent are due £ 6500.

[Spike Mandela]

Wow they have shafed a lot of people. Amazing how the media still see them as victims.

[RoslinInstHibby]

A couple of posters offered a suggestion a few pages back. Along the lines of this new total representing the total to be paid over the course of the years left remaining on their lease - Or something like that.

Take a scroll back and see.
Spot on

[Judas Iscariot]

Spot on

It's a loady plsh

They'll no be around long enough to pay it back

[Mikey]

Looks like he's away to seek clarification with BJ before he comments??

The conversation will be along the lines of.......


Barry - Hey Brian, what's the story with this £5m+ due to Heriot Watt?

Brian - It would be best if we don't go into detail on that one.

Barry - I won't say a word.


Investigative journalism at its best!

[Aldo]

The conversation will be along the lines of....... Barry - Hey Brian, what's the story with this £5m+ due to Heriot Watt? Brian - It would be best if we don't go into detail on that one. Barry - I won't say a word. Investigative journalism at its best!

Ha ha you that preverbial fly on the wall Mikey??

[Gus Fring]

Barry says "@HibeernianAFC BDO say the £5m+ is for remainder of 25-year lease with HW. HW are due what was in original creditors' report (£145,663)"

As expected

[Aldo]

Barry says "@HibeernianAFC BDO say the £5m+ is for remainder of 25-year lease with HW. HW are due what was in original creditors' report (£145,663)" As expected

Yip just seen that. Still £145 grand. Shocking

[hibbill2002]

The FoI info I got in July explained the Council had over estimated what the Council was owed by Yams because they had assumed they would not have been paid for the PBS rates for the first half of this financial year. However, BDO had to start paying the Rates the day they took over.

The residential council tax is for private lets taken for staff. I see D J Alexander the letting agent are due £ 6500.

my ex next door neighbour (hertz ****)worked for Alexanders, they used to let flats to players and he was always getting freebies.

[hibby rae]

Barry says "@HibeernianAFC BDO say the £5m+ is for remainder of 25-year lease with HW. HW are due what was in original creditors' report (£145,663)"

As expected

Surely that means they can't pay the rest of the lease then? I should try that with my landlord and see if he lets me stay in my flat.

[Geo_1875]

Barry says "@HibeernianAFC BDO say the £5m+ is for remainder of 25-year lease with HW. HW are due what was in original creditors' report (£145,663)"

As expected

Banderson is wrong. HWU WERE due £145,663 in arrears from HoMFC. They WERE expecting to receive another £5m+ from HoMFC over the life of their lease on the training centre. This amount will have been included in all their business plans for future years. They WILL NOT receive a penny in settlement of these sums.

They MAY receive significantly reduced amounts under the terms of their revised lease. I stress the word MAY.

[weonlywon6-2]

Barry says "@HibeernianAFC BDO say the £5m+ is for remainder of 25-year lease with HW. HW are due what was in original creditors' report (£145,663)"

As expected


That makes more sense,still.a.lot of money and if hearts have signed a 25 year contract then i guess they may be due it but will never pay it

[clerriehibs]

O
Banderson is wrong. HWU WERE due £145,663 in arrears from HoMFC. They WERE expecting to receive another £5m+ from HoMFC over the life of their lease on the training centre. This amount will have been included in all their business plans for future years. They WILL NOT receive a penny in settlement of these sums.

They MAY receive significantly reduced amounts under the terms of their revised lease. I stress the word MAY.

They'll have to pay something for using riccarton.

[The_Todd]

It's sad a journo had to be prompted to find out the story behind the figures. Scottish sports media are rotten.

[BH Hibs]

O

They'll have to pay something for using riccarton.

You would think they should but knowing them I'm not so sure

[Hibbibri]

You would think they should but knowing them I'm not so sure

More to the point IMHO, are they paying their way at this present time for using Heriot Watt ?

i.e. Weekly or Monthly

[The Falcon]

So they are trumpeting that the CVA achieved a 100% vote of the shareholders but less than 30% of the total shareholding voted with near 50% (the biggest single shareholding) frozen by the law in Lithuania and a further 15% somewhere in Switzerland. If other reports are to be believed most shareholders didn't receive notification until after the vote had taken place

And just over £13m of a total debt of £29m/£33m voted in favour of the CVA and its carried (conditionally) with a reported approval of 87%. Were all creditors notified in time?

Is this bizarre or is it only me? :confused:

[greenginger]

A cursory glance over the new list of creditors and a couple of numbers jump out.

Right above the HMRC debt figure of £ 1,881,065 is a HMRC - VAT debt of a further £ 646,851, so total debt to tax man was £ 2,527,916.

This extra debt is not used in the vote against the CVA :confused:

In the vote for the CVA there is a figure of £ 46,317.45 accredited to G4S Secure Solutions (UK) ltd. In the Company creditors list the G4S debt is noted as £ 12,087.57. Over £ 34,000 of a discrepancy. :confused:


None of this would make any difference to the vote outcome unless BDO's other sums are very wrong too. :greengrin

[I'm_cabbaged]

Just saw on facebook that sideshow has resigned from hmfc Ltd, bad news?

[greenlex]

If this debt is wages the the DWP would have paid this in full, all they have to do is claim. It happened to me twice, businesses I worked for twice decided, on payday, to go bust and both times I got my wages paid in full by the DWP. This should be the same here, no?Yup capped at £430 per week IIRC.

[#FromTheCapital]

Just saw on facebook that sideshow has resigned from hmfc Ltd, bad news?

Aw shame I was starting to like him as well. Let's get this hibs.net kitty organised so we can own hearts instead :cb

[Weststandwanab]

More to the point IMHO, are they paying their way at this present time for using Heriot Watt ?

i.e. Weekly or MonthlyI would imagine so as they are in Administration and BJ will be paying that.


A cursory glance over the new list of creditors and a couple of numbers jump out.

Right above the HMRC debt figure of £ 1,881,065 is a HMRC - VAT debt of a further £ 646,851, so total debt to tax man was £ 2,527,916.

This extra debt is not used in the vote against the CVA :confused:

In the vote for the CVA there is a figure of £ 46,317.45 accredited to G4S Secure Solutions (UK) ltd. In the Company creditors list the G4S debt is noted as £ 12,087.57. Over £ 34,000 of a discrepancy. :confused:


None of this would make any difference to the vote outcome unless BDO's other sums are very wrong too. :greengrin I would guess this would be V.A.T, incurred after the commencement of Administration so would not be included as creditor as of 1th June 2013. BDO's fihures are highly unlikely to be wrong. IMO


Just saw on facebook that sideshow has resigned from hmfc Ltd, bad news? Really, please tell us more, I could speculate that the people behind this have dumped Cuddly Bob and are taking over !

[I'm_cabbaged]

I would imagine so as they are in Administration and BJ will be paying that.

I would guess this would be V.A.T, incurred after the commencement of Administration so would not be included as creditor as of 1th June 2013. BDO's fihures are highly unlikely to be wrong. IMO

Really, please tell us more, I could speculate that the people behind this have dumped Cuddly Bob and are taking over !

Told you all I know, just what I've saw on facebook.

[SurferRosa]

Told you all I know, just what I've saw on facebook.

Maybe Pishydrawers has "taken action".....as he said he would..:hmmm:

[Treadstone]

Maybe Pishydrawers has "taken action".....as he said he would..:hmmm:

Aye 'unfriended' him.

[GreenLake]

So they are trumpeting that the CVA achieved a 100% vote of the shareholders but less than 30% of the total shareholding voted with near 50% (the biggest single shareholding) frozen by the law in Lithuania and a further 15% somewhere in Switzerland. If other reports are to be believed most shareholders didn't receive notification until after the vote had taken place

And just over £13m of a total debt of £29m/£33m voted in favour of the CVA and its carried (conditionally) with a reported approval of 87%. Were all creditors notified in time?

Is this bizarre or is it only me? :confused:

Jiggery-pokery if you ask me.

[greenginger]

I would imagine so as they are in Administration and BJ will be paying that.

I would guess this would be V.A.T, incurred after the commencement of Administration so would not be included as creditor as of 1th June 2013. BDO's fihures are highly unlikely to be wrong. IMO

Really, please tell us more, I could speculate that the people behind this have dumped Cuddly Bob and are taking over !

Any Vat incurred after the start of admin. would be paid for by the admin. If it was incurred before admin, it should be included in the HMRC vote , that is assuming HMRC had been informed of the additional debt .

[Ronniekirk]

Jiggery-pokery if you ask me.
Hokey Pokem if you ask me

[leggeto]

Some corrupt ex council bloke called Dave Anderson is his partner maybe they had a fall out

[Albion Hibs]

If ever there was any doubt that Hearts should be liquidated, pure and simple, then this report confirms it.

I struggle to find words strong enough to convey my feelings about it, but its disgusting. So much damage done in their wake, and for what? To crow about winning a few football matches.

They are a disgrace to football and clubs like this MUST be eliminated if football is ever to regain any respect in society.

Their craven fans seem to think this is all a lark, but there are real world consequences to this debt. Real people lose their jobs, real businesses go bust, and real taxpayers have to pay more to cover the losses to the public purse.

Well run and socially responsible clubs like Hibs, St Johnstone, Raith Rovers and so on SHOULD NOT play in a league system with clubs like Hearts and Sevco as we are then tacitly approving their actions. We are tainted by association.

In addition, supporters of well run clubs have been cheated out of the money they have paid in supporting their own clubs, as it was a rigged game.

We should be demanding their expulsion from football, and then cheering their dissolution by law. However Scottish Football (and let's face it world football in general) is corrupt and as far from socially responsible as it's possible to get.

Some may say I'm taking this too seriously. Just ask someone who has seen their business fail, or has lost their job because of the actions of Hearts how seriously they feel about it.

:top marks Ordinary people have been cheated, and not just financially but in footballing terms, regardless if what team they support. What is even more frightening is an MP and the "first minister" are bending over backwards to help them, I wonder if they would be doing the same if it was a political party that had cheated and robbed on this scale? Our current tax paying money is funding there efforts to save an organisation that has cheated the tax payer over years, for what, to save a minority, not very democratic.

Dear Alex, will the same immunity be afforded to all football clubs, is such a policy contained within your nonsense white paper.

It reeks.

[HibbySpurs]

Just saw on facebook that sideshow has resigned from hmfc Ltd, bad news?

Hmmmm, wasn't he the sole director? Would indicate he's giving up on the idea? Hardly surprising given the abuse he was taking off the yams...... Just not worth it.......


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[clerriehibs]

:top marks Ordinary people have been cheated, and not just financially but in footballing terms, regardless if what team they support. What is even more frightening is an MP and the "first minister" are bending over backwards to help them, I wonder if they would be doing the same if it was a political party that had cheated and robbed on this scale? Our current tax paying money is funding there efforts to save an organisation that has cheated the tax payer over years, for what, to save a minority, not very democratic.

Dear Alex, will the same immunity be afforded to all football clubs, is such a policy contained within your nonsense white paper.

It reeks.

Isn't the Holy Ground reserved for such political rants?

[Weststandwanab]

Any Vat incurred after the start of admin. would be paid for by the admin. If it was incurred before admin, it should be included in the HMRC vote , that is assuming HMRC had been informed of the additional debt .

On reflection that sound correct. Apologies I can only imagine that this morning I read it too quickly. Seat in the Dunce's corner for me.

[hhibs]

]Isn't the Holy Ground reserved for such political rants?

Clearly not in this case, when someone wants to spout *****and will use any excuse to spout it ! GGTTH

[147lothian]

Does anyone know why BJ wants to buy the UBIG shares?

[Albion Hibs]

Isn't the Holy Ground reserved for such political rants?

You hsve missed the point, I am sick of the fact there is a load of highly paid politicians running round trying to save a football club that has conned the tax payer...rather than doing their job of working for the tax payer.

[Gus Fring]

You hsve missed the point, I am sick of the fact there is a load of highly paid politicians running round trying to save a football club that has conned the tax payer...rather than doing their job of working for the tax payer.

Wait! Ian Murray is an MP? You'd think the papers or the man himself might have mentioned it?

[Treadstone]

You hsve missed the point, I am sick of the fact there is a load of highly paid politicians running round trying to save a football club that has conned the tax payer...rather than doing their job of working for the tax payer.

You personally mention Alex Salmond, absolutely no proof of this and only mentioned in an article without any substance or quotes by a newspaper group with a vested interest in the survival of HoMFC.
Pishy Breeks is unelected and almost unaccountable for his actions, blame the political system for that.
Ian Murray does have questions to answer, high ranking is a stretch for him. Got a Newsnicht gig soon after FoH thrust him into the spotlight and last seen ranking hamburgers on the Daily Politics.

[Ozyhibby]

If Heriot Watt are down for £5m and HMRC for £2.5 could they have stopped the CVA between them? I assume Heriot Watt must have voted in favour?

[GreenLake]

If Heriot Watt are down for £5m and HMRC for £2.5 could they have stopped the CVA between them? I assume Heriot Watt must have voted in favour?

HMRC are the only body not to turn a blind eye. The ECC and the University seem to be in a Town & Gown imbroglio with the cheats. Town & Gown but not Crown forgive the Brown.

[Phil D. Rolls]

You hsve missed the point, I am sick of the fact there is a load of highly paid politicians running round trying to save a football club that has conned the tax payer...rather than doing their job of working for the tax payer.

:yawn: Feel free to mention the fact you pay their wages.

[Beefster]

Turns out I know one of the guys on the creditors list through Mrs Mikey. He's a big Hearts guy but I know he'll be missing the £3.5k-ish that he's due.

And won't get!

I know one of the surgeons on the list. He probably won't miss the money he's due though!

[Joy Zipper]

Hmmmm, wasn't he the sole director? Would indicate he's giving up on the idea? Hardly surprising given the abuse he was taking off the yams...... Just not worth it.......


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He was/is the sole director of HMFC Ltd. Appointed 10.06.13.

The worth of the companies of which he is a director is around about £0, but by all accounts he founded and sold Novafone back in the 90's so he may well have money hiding somewhere.

Taken from his linkedin page :-

"Founder
NOVAFONE
March 1985 – April 1991 (6 years 2 months)
Racal Vodafone Service Provider.

Cellular telephone billing software development pioneers.

Shirt sponsor of Hearts FC and Dundee FC

Sponsors of BMW M Team in BTCC - managed by Prodrive, Banbury, UK.

Business sold."



He has also been a director of a list of Limited companies as long as your arm :-

Robert Jamieson holds 3 current appointment, has resigned from 5 companies and held appointments at 23 dissolved companies. Robert began their first appointment at the age of 41 and their longest current appointment spans 3 years and 5 months at KEX LIMITED.

The combined cash at bank value for all businesses where Robert holds a current appointment equals £0, with a combined assets value of £0 and liabilities of £0. Roles associated with Robert Jamieson within the recorded businesses include: Director, Company Secretary

Short name Robert Jamieson
Year of Birth: 1947
Director ID: 905870143
Registered Address
33 Bothwell Street
Glasgow
G2 6NL Directorships
3 current appointments
5 resigned appointments
23 dissolved appointments

Company Summary
ALEA SPORTSWEAR (UK) LTD
Dates: 6/4/2010 - 22/3/2011

Director Appointments
ALEA SPORTSWEAR (UK) LTD
SPORTSLINK (SCOTLAND) LIMITED
BRAEHEAD ICE HOCKEY LIMITED
BORDERS TV LIMITED
INTERNET TV LIMITED
FURBS LIMITED
INTERNET TV LIMITED
INTERNET TELEVISION LTD.
AQUA MINERALE LIMITED
KEX LIMITED
SHOES 4 AFRICA LIMITED
SUPERPUCK LIMITED
BOROUGHMUIR LIMITED
INGLISTON KARTING LIMITED
EUROLODGE LIMITED
CLICK INTERNATIONAL LIMITED
REFLEX SPORT BEVERAGES LIMITED
GOPACK SUPERDRINKS LIMITED
JCHMB LIMITED
BUSH BEVERAGES LIMITED
KEEPHIGH LIMITED
KEX PACK LIMITED
BOROUGHMUIR (SALES) LIMITED
BOROUGHMUIR (UK) LIMITED
SPORTSBIZ (UK) LIMITED
HMFC LIMITED
WORKINGTON TOWN RUGBY LEAGUE FOOTBALL CLUB,LIMITED

ALEA SPORTSWEAR (UK) LTD Company is dissolved Director 06/04/2010 - 03/2011

SPORTSLINK (SCOTLAND) LIMITED Company is dissolved Director 12/12/2007 03/09/2008 03/2010

BRAEHEAD ICE HOCKEY LIMITED Company is dissolved Director 12/12/2007 03/09/2008 03/2010

BORDERS TV LIMITED Company is dissolved Director 28/09/2007 - 06/2009

INTERNET TV LIMITED Company is dissolved Director 31/08/2007 - 01/2010

FURBS LIMITED Company is dissolved Director 10/06/2005 - 09/2009

INTERNET TV LIMITED Company is dissolved Director 07/07/2004 - 05/2007

INTERNET TELEVISION LTD. Company is dissolved Director 25/04/2002 - 08/2009

AQUA MINERALE LIMITED Company is dissolved Director 25/04/2002 - 03/2007

KEX LIMITED Non trading Director 10/06/2010 -

SHOES 4 AFRICA LIMITED Strike Off Listed Director 28/10/2010 -

SUPERPUCK LIMITED Company is dissolved Director 26/09/2008 - 03/2011

BOROUGHMUIR LIMITED Company is dissolved Director 09/05/1990 - 05/2007

BOROUGHMUIR LIMITED Company is dissolved Company Secretary 07/11/1990 - 05/2007

INGLISTON KARTING LIMITED Company is dissolved Director 17/03/1992 14/02/1994 05/2007

INGLISTON KARTING LIMITED Company is dissolved Company Secretary 17/03/1992 31/03/1995 05/2007

EUROLODGE LIMITED Company is dissolved Director 14/04/1992 - 05/2007

EUROLODGE LIMITED Company is dissolved Company Secretary 14/04/1992 - 05/2007

CLICK INTERNATIONAL LIMITED Company is dissolved Company Secretary 01/10/1996 - 05/2007

REFLEX SPORT BEVERAGES LIMITED Company is dissolved Director 10/06/1998 - 05/2007

GOPACK SUPERDRINKS LIMITED Company is dissolved Director 14/05/1999 - 05/2007

JCHMB LIMITED Company is dissolved Director 31/12/1989 - 05/2007

BUSH BEVERAGES LIMITED Company is dissolved Director 01/02/2001 - 06/2004

KEEPHIGH LIMITED Company is dissolved Director 16/01/1991 - 05/2007

KEX PACK LIMITED Company is dissolved Director 23/02/2001 - 06/2004

BOROUGHMUIR (SALES) LIMITED Company is dissolved Director 31/12/1988 - 05/2007

BOROUGHMUIR (UK) LIMITED Company is dissolved Director 17/03/1989 - 05/2007

SPORTSBIZ (UK) LIMITED Company is dissolved Director 23/05/1997 - 06/2004

CLICK INTERNATIONAL LIMITED Company is dissolved Director 12/09/1995 - 05/2007

HMFC LIMITED Active - Newly Incorporated Director 10/06/2013 -

WORKINGTON TOWN RUGBY LEAGUE FOOTBALL CLUB,LIMITED Active - Accounts Filed Director 10/01/1996 10/01/1996

[Bostonhibby]

He was/is the sole director of HMFC Ltd. Appointed 10.06.13.

The worth of the companies of which he is a director is around about £0, but by all accounts he founded and sold Novafone back in the 90's so he may well have money hiding somewhere.

Taken from his linkedin page :-

"Founder
NOVAFONE
March 1985 – April 1991 (6 years 2 months)
Racal Vodafone Service Provider.

Cellular telephone billing software development pioneers.

Shirt sponsor of Hearts FC and Dundee FC

Sponsors of BMW M Team in BTCC - managed by Prodrive, Banbury, UK.

Business sold."



He has also been a director of a list of Limited companies as long as your arm :-

Robert Jamieson holds 3 current appointment, has resigned from 5 companies and held appointments at 23 dissolved companies. Robert began their first appointment at the age of 41 and their longest current appointment spans 3 years and 5 months at KEX LIMITED.

The combined cash at bank value for all businesses where Robert holds a current appointment equals £0, with a combined assets value of £0 and liabilities of £0. Roles associated with Robert Jamieson within the recorded businesses include: Director, Company Secretary

Short name Robert Jamieson
Year of Birth: 1947
Director ID: 905870143
Registered Address
33 Bothwell Street
Glasgow
G2 6NL Directorships
3 current appointments
5 resigned appointments
23 dissolved appointments

Company Summary
ALEA SPORTSWEAR (UK) LTD
Dates: 6/4/2010 - 22/3/2011

Director Appointments
ALEA SPORTSWEAR (UK) LTD
SPORTSLINK (SCOTLAND) LIMITED
BRAEHEAD ICE HOCKEY LIMITED
BORDERS TV LIMITED
INTERNET TV LIMITED
FURBS LIMITED
INTERNET TV LIMITED
INTERNET TELEVISION LTD.
AQUA MINERALE LIMITED
KEX LIMITED
SHOES 4 AFRICA LIMITED
SUPERPUCK LIMITED
BOROUGHMUIR LIMITED
INGLISTON KARTING LIMITED
EUROLODGE LIMITED
CLICK INTERNATIONAL LIMITED
REFLEX SPORT BEVERAGES LIMITED
GOPACK SUPERDRINKS LIMITED
JCHMB LIMITED
BUSH BEVERAGES LIMITED
KEEPHIGH LIMITED
KEX PACK LIMITED
BOROUGHMUIR (SALES) LIMITED
BOROUGHMUIR (UK) LIMITED
SPORTSBIZ (UK) LIMITED
HMFC LIMITED
WORKINGTON TOWN RUGBY LEAGUE FOOTBALL CLUB,LIMITED

ALEA SPORTSWEAR (UK) LTD Company is dissolved Director 06/04/2010 - 03/2011

SPORTSLINK (SCOTLAND) LIMITED Company is dissolved Director 12/12/2007 03/09/2008 03/2010

BRAEHEAD ICE HOCKEY LIMITED Company is dissolved Director 12/12/2007 03/09/2008 03/2010

BORDERS TV LIMITED Company is dissolved Director 28/09/2007 - 06/2009

INTERNET TV LIMITED Company is dissolved Director 31/08/2007 - 01/2010

FURBS LIMITED Company is dissolved Director 10/06/2005 - 09/2009

INTERNET TV LIMITED Company is dissolved Director 07/07/2004 - 05/2007

INTERNET TELEVISION LTD. Company is dissolved Director 25/04/2002 - 08/2009

AQUA MINERALE LIMITED Company is dissolved Director 25/04/2002 - 03/2007

KEX LIMITED Non trading Director 10/06/2010 -

SHOES 4 AFRICA LIMITED Strike Off Listed Director 28/10/2010 -

SUPERPUCK LIMITED Company is dissolved Director 26/09/2008 - 03/2011

BOROUGHMUIR LIMITED Company is dissolved Director 09/05/1990 - 05/2007

BOROUGHMUIR LIMITED Company is dissolved Company Secretary 07/11/1990 - 05/2007

INGLISTON KARTING LIMITED Company is dissolved Director 17/03/1992 14/02/1994 05/2007

INGLISTON KARTING LIMITED Company is dissolved Company Secretary 17/03/1992 31/03/1995 05/2007

EUROLODGE LIMITED Company is dissolved Director 14/04/1992 - 05/2007

EUROLODGE LIMITED Company is dissolved Company Secretary 14/04/1992 - 05/2007

CLICK INTERNATIONAL LIMITED Company is dissolved Company Secretary 01/10/1996 - 05/2007

REFLEX SPORT BEVERAGES LIMITED Company is dissolved Director 10/06/1998 - 05/2007

GOPACK SUPERDRINKS LIMITED Company is dissolved Director 14/05/1999 - 05/2007

JCHMB LIMITED Company is dissolved Director 31/12/1989 - 05/2007

BUSH BEVERAGES LIMITED Company is dissolved Director 01/02/2001 - 06/2004

KEEPHIGH LIMITED Company is dissolved Director 16/01/1991 - 05/2007

KEX PACK LIMITED Company is dissolved Director 23/02/2001 - 06/2004

BOROUGHMUIR (SALES) LIMITED Company is dissolved Director 31/12/1988 - 05/2007

BOROUGHMUIR (UK) LIMITED Company is dissolved Director 17/03/1989 - 05/2007

SPORTSBIZ (UK) LIMITED Company is dissolved Director 23/05/1997 - 06/2004

CLICK INTERNATIONAL LIMITED Company is dissolved Director 12/09/1995 - 05/2007

HMFC LIMITED Active - Newly Incorporated Director 10/06/2013 -

WORKINGTON TOWN RUGBY LEAGUE FOOTBALL CLUB,LIMITED Active - Accounts Filed Director 10/01/1996 10/01/1996

So he knows how to dissolve a company then does Bob :-).I suspect he knows what he wants out of his yam adventure and despite all the jokes probably has the experience to know how to get it. Could give us some fun the likes of which we haven't seen since that nice Mr Vlad took a short holiday.

[lapsedhibee]

So he knows how to dissolve a company then does Bob :-).I suspect he knows what he wants out of his yam adventure and despite all the jokes probably has the experience to know how to get it. Could give us some fun the likes of which we haven't seen since that nice Mr Vlad took a short holiday.

Perhaps someone's paid him to go away, and so he's already achieved his aim. :boo hoo:

[macca70]

He was/is the sole director of HMFC Ltd. Appointed 10.06.13.

The worth of the companies of which he is a director is around about £0, but by all accounts he founded and sold Novafone back in the 90's so he may well have money hiding somewhere.

Taken from his linkedin page :-

"Founder
NOVAFONE
March 1985 – April 1991 (6 years 2 months)
Racal Vodafone Service Provider.

Cellular telephone billing software development pioneers.

Shirt sponsor of Hearts FC and Dundee FC

Sponsors of BMW M Team in BTCC - managed by Prodrive, Banbury, UK.

Business sold."



He has also been a director of a list of Limited companies as long as your arm :-

Robert Jamieson holds 3 current appointment, has resigned from 5 companies and held appointments at 23 dissolved companies. Robert began their first appointment at the age of 41 and their longest current appointment spans 3 years and 5 months at KEX LIMITED.

The combined cash at bank value for all businesses where Robert holds a current appointment equals £0, with a combined assets value of £0 and liabilities of £0. Roles associated with Robert Jamieson within the recorded businesses include: Director, Company Secretary

Short name Robert Jamieson
Year of Birth: 1947
Director ID: 905870143
Registered Address
33 Bothwell Street
Glasgow
G2 6NL Directorships
3 current appointments
5 resigned appointments
23 dissolved appointments

Company Summary
ALEA SPORTSWEAR (UK) LTD
Dates: 6/4/2010 - 22/3/2011

Director Appointments
ALEA SPORTSWEAR (UK) LTD
SPORTSLINK (SCOTLAND) LIMITED
BRAEHEAD ICE HOCKEY LIMITED
BORDERS TV LIMITED
INTERNET TV LIMITED
FURBS LIMITED
INTERNET TV LIMITED
INTERNET TELEVISION LTD.
AQUA MINERALE LIMITED
KEX LIMITED
SHOES 4 AFRICA LIMITED
SUPERPUCK LIMITED
BOROUGHMUIR LIMITED
INGLISTON KARTING LIMITED
EUROLODGE LIMITED
CLICK INTERNATIONAL LIMITED
REFLEX SPORT BEVERAGES LIMITED
GOPACK SUPERDRINKS LIMITED
JCHMB LIMITED
BUSH BEVERAGES LIMITED
KEEPHIGH LIMITED
KEX PACK LIMITED
BOROUGHMUIR (SALES) LIMITED
BOROUGHMUIR (UK) LIMITED
SPORTSBIZ (UK) LIMITED
HMFC LIMITED
WORKINGTON TOWN RUGBY LEAGUE FOOTBALL CLUB,LIMITED

ALEA SPORTSWEAR (UK) LTD Company is dissolved Director 06/04/2010 - 03/2011

SPORTSLINK (SCOTLAND) LIMITED Company is dissolved Director 12/12/2007 03/09/2008 03/2010

BRAEHEAD ICE HOCKEY LIMITED Company is dissolved Director 12/12/2007 03/09/2008 03/2010

BORDERS TV LIMITED Company is dissolved Director 28/09/2007 - 06/2009

INTERNET TV LIMITED Company is dissolved Director 31/08/2007 - 01/2010

FURBS LIMITED Company is dissolved Director 10/06/2005 - 09/2009

INTERNET TV LIMITED Company is dissolved Director 07/07/2004 - 05/2007

INTERNET TELEVISION LTD. Company is dissolved Director 25/04/2002 - 08/2009

AQUA MINERALE LIMITED Company is dissolved Director 25/04/2002 - 03/2007

KEX LIMITED Non trading Director 10/06/2010 -

SHOES 4 AFRICA LIMITED Strike Off Listed Director 28/10/2010 -

SUPERPUCK LIMITED Company is dissolved Director 26/09/2008 - 03/2011

BOROUGHMUIR LIMITED Company is dissolved Director 09/05/1990 - 05/2007

BOROUGHMUIR LIMITED Company is dissolved Company Secretary 07/11/1990 - 05/2007

INGLISTON KARTING LIMITED Company is dissolved Director 17/03/1992 14/02/1994 05/2007

INGLISTON KARTING LIMITED Company is dissolved Company Secretary 17/03/1992 31/03/1995 05/2007

EUROLODGE LIMITED Company is dissolved Director 14/04/1992 - 05/2007

EUROLODGE LIMITED Company is dissolved Company Secretary 14/04/1992 - 05/2007

CLICK INTERNATIONAL LIMITED Company is dissolved Company Secretary 01/10/1996 - 05/2007

REFLEX SPORT BEVERAGES LIMITED Company is dissolved Director 10/06/1998 - 05/2007

GOPACK SUPERDRINKS LIMITED Company is dissolved Director 14/05/1999 - 05/2007

JCHMB LIMITED Company is dissolved Director 31/12/1989 - 05/2007

BUSH BEVERAGES LIMITED Company is dissolved Director 01/02/2001 - 06/2004

KEEPHIGH LIMITED Company is dissolved Director 16/01/1991 - 05/2007

KEX PACK LIMITED Company is dissolved Director 23/02/2001 - 06/2004

BOROUGHMUIR (SALES) LIMITED Company is dissolved Director 31/12/1988 - 05/2007

BOROUGHMUIR (UK) LIMITED Company is dissolved Director 17/03/1989 - 05/2007

SPORTSBIZ (UK) LIMITED Company is dissolved Director 23/05/1997 - 06/2004

CLICK INTERNATIONAL LIMITED Company is dissolved Director 12/09/1995 - 05/2007

HMFC LIMITED Active - Newly Incorporated Director 10/06/2013 -

WORKINGTON TOWN RUGBY LEAGUE FOOTBALL CLUB,LIMITED Active - Accounts Filed Director 10/01/1996 10/01/1996

Shoes for Africa!! It all makes sense now, he wants to set up 'Shoes for Jambos' as they've all *****ed their money on FOH.

'Feed the Jambos, let them know its Christmas time.....

[Weststandwanab]

Perhaps someone's paid him to go away, and so he's already achieved his aim. :boo hoo: That is distinctly possible.

[Golden Bear]

Perhaps someone's paid him to go away, and so he's already achieved his aim. :boo hoo:

Or Fatty Foulkes has sent in his boot boys.

[jacomo]

So he knows how to dissolve a company then does Bob :-).I suspect he knows what he wants out of his yam adventure and despite all the jokes probably has the experience to know how to get it. Could give us some fun the likes of which we haven't seen since that nice Mr Vlad took a short holiday.

I read that list of company directorships and see a half-bit chancer. Given the Yams and their ability to assess the credentials of potential owners, I wouldn't be surprised if they start getting excited about Bob's extensive portfolio of business interests.

[clerriehibs]

You hsve missed the point, I am sick of the fact there is a load of highly paid politicians running round trying to save a football club that has conned the tax payer...rather than doing their job of working for the tax payer.

Murray, I give you.

Salmond, I don't.

And your 'nonsense white paper' statement? Completely irrelevant, if your point is as above.

[itslegaltender]

With them still owing St Andrews Ambulance, they havent paid off all their debt to charities. Thieving charity stealing barstewards.

[southsider]

Wait! Ian Murray is an MP? You'd think the papers or the man himself might have mentioned it?

Ex MP at next election ! Just wait till he comes to my house wanting my vote. Would rather vote for Pol Pot.

[Phil D. Rolls]

Ex MP at next election ! Just wait till he comes to my house wanting my vote. Would rather vote for Pol Pot.

If nothing else, his naivety in running FOH, raises questions over his ability to manage more complex issues, such as genocide. :greengrin

[EK_Hibs]

So it seems oor Bob is dissolving his HoMoFC LTD?
For someone like myself who has been longing for liquidation - Are the frozen UBIG shares still potentially hazardous? (In a good way for us).

[Onion]

You hsve missed the point, I am sick of the fact there is a load of highly paid politicians running round trying to save a football club that has conned the tax payer...rather than doing their job of working for the tax payer.

This has everything to do with buying votes, esp with the referendum coming up. Why do you think Sevco were given such an easy ride? If other fans had not been the moral compass and forced everyone's hand, Sevco would currently be playing in the SPFL spouting their bigoted bile from the stands immune from prosecution.

[GordonHFC]

Ex MP at next election ! Just wait till he comes to my house wanting my vote. Would rather vote for Pol Pot.

Is that the guy who won Britains Got Talent:greengrin

[Springbank]

What's the entry level bid for the ubig shares?

£10k to stifle the last putrid breath out of hmfcia would be money well spent

What is the expert view on entry level bids?

[GreenLake]

Ex MP at next election ! Just wait till he comes to my house wanting my vote. Would rather vote for Pol Pot.

I wonder if the yams are hoping for a Pol Pot type figure to rise up and take control. A leader for the state of Jambodia.

[Treadstone]

What's the entry level bid for the ubig shares?

£10k to stifle the last putrid breath out of hmfcia would be money well spent

What is the expert view on entry level bids?

A pair of moccasins and a David Icke persona.

[hhibs]

You personally mention Alex Salmond, absolutely no proof of this and only mentioned in an article without any substance or quotes by a newspaper group with a vested interest in the survival of HoMFC.
Pishy Breeks is unelected and almost unaccountable for his actions, blame the political system for that.
Ian Murray does have questions to answer, high ranking is a stretch for him. Got a Newsnicht gig soon after FoH thrust him into the spotlight and last seen ranking hamburgers on the Daily Politics.


Could not agree more.:top marks

[green glory]

Ex MP at next election ! Just wait till he comes to my house wanting my vote. Would rather vote for Pol Pot.

Vote Yes in the referendum next year and he's automatically sacked, as is fatty Foulkes and the rest of the Houses of Commons and Lords. :cb

[monktonharp]

I know one of the surgeons on the list. He probably won't miss the money he's due though!

you're probably right about missing the money, but hey, we do need surgeons! and I have personally needed their expertise on 3 different occasions through my life. they were all for different situations, and I got off lightly, because of the work of surgeons so I do tend to revere them, rather than yawn, as if they are a necessity that we don't really want to pay for. sorry for going off track.

[greenginger]

Vote Yes in the referendum next year and he's automatically sacked, as is fatty Foulkes and the rest of the Houses of Commons and Lords. :cb

I doubt it, they will all reappear again in an independent Scotland in a greatly enlarged Holyrood Trough.

The political porkers of this world will get their snouts in somewhere , you can be sure of that.

[Geo_1875]

I doubt it, they will all reappear again in an independent Scotland in a greatly enlarged Holyrood Trough.

The political porkers of this world will get their snouts in somewhere , you can be sure of that.

Hopefully the decent London-based politicos would return to Scotland and elbow the jumped up councillors out of the way.

[monktonharp]

So it seems oor Bob is dissolving his HoMoFC LTD?
For someone like myself who has been longing for liquidation - Are the frozen UBIG shares still potentially hazardous? (In a good way for us). he may have dissolved the Homfcltd company, maybe he is coming in from a different angle. after all, the wallet may be short of cash but it must be bursting at the seams with all his different business cards! don't think he'll do anything about shoes,this Christmas. it seems that is where he lets himself down a bit, as the only time he's been "struck off" was with shoes for Africa,which could have been some spitefull Nigerian mob that set him up:greengrin:

[monktonharp]

I doubt it, they will all reappear again in an independent Scotland in a greatly enlarged Holyrood Trough.

The political porkers of this world will get their snouts in somewhere , you can be sure of that.
take it you don't bother with voting then?

[green glory]

I doubt it, they will all reappear again in an independent Scotland in a greatly enlarged Holyrood Trough. The political porkers of this world will get their snouts in somewhere , you can be sure of that.

You're right. Let's not rock the boat then.

[Jack]

I doubt it, they will all reappear again in an independent Scotland in a greatly enlarged Holyrood Trough.

The political porkers of this world will get their snouts in somewhere , you can be sure of that.

Why would Holyroods trough greatly enlarged?

[greenginger]

Why would Holyroods trough greatly enlarged?

Big government requires many people. Have you any idea how many Quango's already exist.

But we diverge, can we get back to Yam bashing. :greengrin

[HibbySpurs]

Is it just me or is this thread in danger of veering wildly off topic?

Old pishy breeks would be delighted if he knew a picture of him was causing such a stir!!!


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[green glory]

@edinburghsport: Breaking: Hearts administration: Bob Jamieson's HMFC Ltd drops rival bid for Ubig shares, blaming "threats" http://t.co/dDT9LSxLCZ

In light of Fatty's tweet the other night, not surprising.

[monktonharp]

Big government requires many people. Have you any idea how many Quango's already exist.

But we diverge, can we get back to Yam bashing. :greengrinnot until you stop bashing the thought of having a country, that would dissolve the likes of fatty foulkes, at a stroke:wink::wink:

[greenginger]

take it you don't bother with voting then?

I've been able to vote for over 40 years now and I don't think I have missed a single opportunity to vote in all that time, be it council,region, Holyrood or Westminster. I vote for a candidate rather than a party so my votes have been widely spread.

[green glory]

@edinburghsport: Breaking: Hearts administration: Bob Jamieson's HMFC Ltd drops rival bid for Ubig shares, blaming "threats" http://t.co/dDT9LSxLCZ

Foulkes vowed to 'take action'.

[green glory]

not until you stop bashing the thought of having a country, that would dissolve the likes of fatty foulkes, at a stroke:wink::wink:

Sulphuric acid?

[cabbageandribs1875]

fudly Foulkes threatened to sit on poor Boab if he didn't withdraw...oooer

[EdinMike]

Death threats, really that's what he Was dealing with. Saw a few on Jambo Facebook nonsense groups friends posted in.

Can't blame the guy, they are ****. Hope they die in February/March for good !

[Pete]

I hope that he has gathered evidence and reported it to the police.

I'm sure the internet would be the first place to find it.

[dangermouse]

@edinburghsport: Breaking: Hearts administration: Bob Jamieson's HMFC Ltd drops rival bid for Ubig shares, blaming "threats" http://t.co/dDT9LSxLCZ

In light of Fatty's tweet the other night, not surprising.

I thought you could get into trouble for posting threats on Twitter. Surely Police Scotland should be paying FF a visit.

[green glory]

I thought you could get into trouble for posting threats on Twitter. Surely Police Scotland should be paying FF a visit.

I should think so too. I'm not saying he has threatened but the timing and the tone are questionable at best.

[southsider]

I doubt it, they will all reappear again in an independent Scotland in a greatly enlarged Holyrood Trough.

The political porkers of this world will get their snouts in somewhere , you can be sure of that.

If Foulkes and Murray are in the NO camp then maybe i will vote YES.

[Leishy1995]

I thought you could get into trouble for posting threats on Twitter. Surely Police Scotland should be paying FF a visit.


You do, and if that threat is reported by Bob it will be looked at.

[Geo_1875]

You do, and if that threat is reported by Bob it will be looked at.

And if Bob doesn't report it I'm sure we can find someone to be offended on his behalf.

[Leishy1995]

And if Bob doesn't report it I'm sure we can find someone to be offended on his behalf.

My younger relatives were offended by Foulkes photo on twitter.

[EK_Hibs]

Far far too much talk of fatty Foulkes on this thread now?!!

Apologies for mentioning him again!

[lucky]

If Foulkes and Murray are in the NO camp then maybe i will vote YES.

Aye but that slavering Jambo Salmond is leading the yes mob.Better staying in the No camp

[Dashing Bob S]

He's done a fair old job though, has Bob. The reports of intimidation and threats would probably not make the Lithuanian authorities any keener to deal swiftly with Hearts, given the likely nature of their criminal investigations into the group of companies of which they are/were a constituent part.

[Deansy]

I thought you could get into trouble for posting threats on Twitter. Surely Police Scotland should be paying FF a visit.


They didn't bother with their big-brothers in Govan ?

[Onceinawhile]

Hearts fans give death threats to oap.

allisbarry: Hearts fans attempt to reduce state pension burden on country #allisbarry

threatening oaps. Disgusting.

[Phil D. Rolls]

You don't have to be the victim of bullying, or harassment to report it. In fact, if people see it and say nothing, they are almost as guilty as the perpetrators. :whistle:

[1two]

What would it take to put a fabricated bid in to ukio for the stadium alone?

Just to delay things further with no real intention of paying for anything or even having the cash to begin with. A bid for the stadium alone which would top FOHs bid for the entire club.

Would this be possible and would it be counterproductive as far as the FOH bid goes?

[Phil D. Rolls]

Aye but that slavering Jambo Salmond is leading the yes mob.Better staying in the No camp

Holy Ground surely?

[Mikey]

Can we get this back on topic folks? The Yes or No stuff isn't really relevant!

[#FromTheCapital]

Can we get this back on topic folks? The Yes or No stuff isn't really relevant!

No :greengrin

[steakbake]

It's all deviated into some kind of bizarre diatribe. Holy Ground material probably at best for the last few pages...

[Dashing Bob S]

It's all deviated into some kind of bizarre diatribe. Holy Ground material probably at best for the last few pages...

It's a very important issue, our country's future FFS. I hate the way people here are trivialising it.









So I think we vote on the sexiest Jambo: Foulkes or Salmond, and let that poll decide Scotland's future.


"They were divided in their view of Scotland's future, but united in the belief that their poxy club should be able to rip off the tax payer, local business and several charities with complete impunity."

[mutley]

And if Bob doesn't report it I'm sure we can find someone to be offended on his behalf.

Yep, it can be anyone that reports it, Bob might be "too scared" in case he gets more threats. Cyber bullying / threats are taken very serious by police agencies

[Pete]

This latest episode simply demonstrates the power that message boards and social media have nowadays. If Twitter etc...was around 20 odd years ago I wonder how the Mercer saga would have turned out.

All these thinly veiled threats on the internet should still be investigated though and Foulkes, at the very least, should have to publicly explain his comments.

[Hibrandenburg]

Hopefully the decent London-based politicos would return to Scotland and elbow the jumped up councillors out of the way.

The London based politicos are the reason that the major parties are behind the no vote. If Scotland took independence then they'd lose their all you can eat buffet vouchers.

[Ozyhibby]

This latest episode simply demonstrates the power that message boards and social media have nowadays. If Twitter etc...was around 20 odd years ago I wonder how the Mercer saga would have turned out.

All these thinly veiled threats on the internet should still be investigated though and Foulkes, at the very least, should have to publicly explain his comments.

Writing 'Mercer must Die' in giant letters in Princes street gardens probably did the trick as much as twitter. :-)

[Iggy Pope]

Writing 'Mercer must Die' in giant letters in Princes street gardens probably did the trick as much as twitter. :-)

:greengrin
Those were the days. An unmistakeable message battered out from Leith to summertime Edinburgh tourists and commuters.

[DaveF]

Writing 'Mercer must Die' in giant letters in Princes street gardens probably did the trick as much as twitter. :-)

I vaguely recall something like that but wasn't sure if it was the stuff of legend. Is there a photo anywhere? Nothing doing on Google.

[calumb]

I vaguely recall something like that but wasn't sure if it was the stuff of legend. Is there a photo anywhere? Nothing doing on Google.

It was Mercer R.I.P

[Suburban Hibby]

It was Mercer R.I.P

There was definitely a Mercer must die- can't remember if it was on the tent in the gardens which I think it was or painted on a wall at ER

Certainly did the trick

[calumb]

There was definitely a Mercer must die- can't remember if it was on the tent in the gardens which I think it was or painted on a wall at ER

Certainly did the trick

You might be right, i saw the tent being done and was sure it was rip but i am now doubting myself. The only picture i saw of it was in the daily record

[Gus Fring]

I've been told today that morale is still very low. Nothing much is happening now the CVA has been approved but they are throwing ideas around for how to sell hospitality. They want to leave it as long as possible before doing any offers on standard walk ups. As I said the other day attendances "are not what the BBC website says they are".

We we could see Season Tickets on sale late January/February but I will stress that's just an idea just now. The worry is there's no additional income coming from anywhere other than a potential League Cup final.

[Jack]

I've been told today that morale is still very low. Nothing much is happening now the CVA has been approved but they are throwing ideas around for how to sell hospitality. They want to leave it as long as possible before doing any offers on standard walk ups. As I said the other day attendances "are not what the BBC website says they are".

We we could see Season Tickets on sale late January/February but I will stress that's just an idea just now. The worry is there's no additional income coming from anywhere other than a potential League Cup final.

In Yogi we trust :-)

[Iggy Pope]

I vaguely recall something like that but wasn't sure if it was the stuff of legend. Is there a photo anywhere? Nothing doing on Google.

It was emblazoned across the top of the tent and unmistakenly viewable from Princes Street or the top of a 44 in either direction.

It is the stuff of legend. And a legendary zealot must have gone to some effort to put it there.

[Deansy]

I've been told today that morale is still very low. Nothing much is happening now the CVA has been approved but they are throwing ideas around for how to sell hospitality. They want to leave it as long as possible before doing any offers on standard walk ups. As I said the other day attendances "are not what the BBC website says they are".

We we could see Season Tickets on sale late January/February but I will stress that's just an idea just now. The worry is there's no additional income coming from anywhere other than a potential League Cup final.

More stress/pressure for the 'Best crop of youngsters in the game' - shame .......

[hhibs]

Aye but that slavering Jambo Salmond is leading the yes mob.Better staying in the No camp

Seems to me you are the one doing the slavering,take your non football agenda and toddle off.

[Springbank]

I've been told today that morale is still very low. Nothing much is happening now the CVA has been approved but they are throwing ideas around for how to sell hospitality. They want to leave it as long as possible before doing any offers on standard walk ups. As I said the other day attendances "are not what the BBC website says they are".

We we could see Season Tickets on sale late January/February but I will stress that's just an idea just now. The worry is there's no additional income coming from anywhere other than a potential League Cup final.

So their whole ongoing existence rests on a game at er with yogi in the opposition dug out?

Over to you John...do the deed...

[calumb]

It was emblazoned across the top of the tent and unmistakenly viewable from Princes Street or the top of a 44 in either direction.

It is the stuff of legend. And a legendary zealot must have gone to some effort to put it there.

Aye but he nearly blew it when he was about to spell mercer with an s

[inglisavhibs]

I've been told today that morale is still very low. Nothing much is happening now the CVA has been approved but they are throwing ideas around for how to sell hospitality. They want to leave it as long as possible before doing any offers on standard walk ups. As I said the other day attendances "are not what the BBC website says they are".

We we could see Season Tickets on sale late January/February but I will stress that's just an idea just now. The worry is there's no additional income coming from anywhere other than a potential League Cup final.
Some guy on kickback tonight claiming that BDO fees are fixed at £325k plus around £125k legal fees. He says that as long as admin lasts less than 12 months this all they will pay. He also claims this money comes out of the CVA money meaning Ukio only get just over 2M.
Some points
Why would BDO limit their income?
in BDO's report from the CVA meeting did they not say that their fees would be paid for by Hearts trading income during admin?
£325k seems very low for this tpe of work?
How many of BDO employees are working on this case?

[CropleyWasGod]

Some guy on kickback tonight claiming that BDO fees are fixed at £325k plus around £125k legal fees. He says that as long as admin lasts less than 12 months this all they will pay. He also claims this money comes out of the CVA money meaning Ukio only get just over 2M.
Some points
Why would BDO limit their income?
in BDO's report from the CVA meeting did they not say that their fees would be paid for by Hearts trading income during admin?
£325k seems very low for this tpe of work?
How many of BDO employees are working on this case?

I have my doubts, but it's not beyond reason that it would happen. Accountants often come under pressure to limit their fees.

However, given how complicated things have become recently, I would be surprised. IIRC, BDO's fees at the last creditors' report were £189k. I don't know if they disclosed them this time around.

[Greenworld]

Some guy on kickback tonight claiming that BDO fees are fixed at £325k plus around £125k legal fees. He says that as long as admin lasts less than 12 months this all they will pay. He also claims this money comes out of the CVA money meaning Ukio only get just over 2M.
Some points
Why would BDO limit their income?
in BDO's report from the CVA meeting did they not say that their fees would be paid for by Hearts trading income during admin?
£325k seems very low for this tpe of work?
How many of BDO employees are working on this case?

Is this not figures quoted in the cva repott from bdo I seem to remember reading this

[Gus Fring]

Some guy on kickback tonight claiming that BDO fees are fixed at £325k plus around £125k legal fees. He says that as long as admin lasts less than 12 months this all they will pay. He also claims this money comes out of the CVA money meaning Ukio only get just over 2M.
Some points
Why would BDO limit their income?
in BDO's report from the CVA meeting did they not say that their fees would be paid for by Hearts trading income during admin?
£325k seems very low for this tpe of work?
How many of BDO employees are working on this case?

Im told the number of BDO employees varies depending on what's happening. There's more on a match day and on a Friday for example.

My understanding is that the fees up until last Friday will be deducted from the CVA and any and all fees accrued between now and them exiting administration will be taken at regular intervals when funds are available.

[Kato]

There's more on a match day and on a Friday for example.



Well there is all that hospitality left unsold, shame to waste it.

[Greenworld]

Im told the number of BDO employees varies depending on what's happening. There's more match day and on a Friday for example.

My understanding is that the fees up until last Friday will be deducted from the CVA and any and all fees accrued between now and them exiting administration will be taken at regular intervals when funds are available.

These figures are quoted in the cva report from bdo
I think howevrr the relate to charges to ubig if the cva is completed
In 12 months however it is a war an peace document

[greenginger]

Had a chance for a closer look at BDO account.

Page 53. Charges for admin. to 5th November £ 225,000

Charges for legal £ 47,500

Note 5 says Fee agreement with Ukio Bankas was £ 325,000 for administration up to 12 months.

Administration is now over and the Company is in supervision which will be charged separately.

Also Clause 3.6 Donations to the club from a wide range of sources total £ 75,000 since start of admin.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Seems to me you are the one doing the slavering,take your non football agenda and toddle off.



:applause: his anti-SNP jibes get rather monotonous every 2nd post, i think the SNP hurt him many years ago...they're his favourite topic :greengrin

[Ozyhibby]

Had a chance for a closer look at BDO account.

Page 53. Charges for admin. to 5th November £ 225,000

Charges for legal £ 47,500

Note 5 says Fee agreement with Ukio Bankas was £ 325,000 for administration up to 12 months.

Administration is now over and the Company is in supervision which will be charged separately.

Also Clause 3.6 Donations to the club from a wide range of sources total £ 75,000 since start of admin.

Donations will include the money teams have been giving them for away games? Can't see how else this would be accounted for?

[marti1875]

Had a chance for a closer look at BDO account.

Page 53. Charges for admin. to 5th November £ 225,000

Charges for legal £ 47,500

Note 5 says Fee agreement with Ukio Bankas was £ 325,000 for administration up to 12 months.

Administration is now over and the Company is in supervision which will be charged separately.

Also Clause 3.6 Donations to the club from a wide range of sources total £ 75,000 since start of admin.

Hi GG,

I'm currently living in Thailand so i do try to keep up to date with things. I see in your post you say "administration is now over" When did this happen? i thought they said they wouldnae be out of Admin until into next year at the earliest?

Or am i just having one of those "whoosh" moments and have drank too many Chang beers? :greengrin

[Hibeesforever]

Hi GG,

I'm currently living in Thailand so i do try to keep up to date with things. I see in your post you say "administration is now over" When did this happen? i thought they said they wouldnae be out of Admin until into next year at the earliest?

Or am i just having one of those "whoosh" moments and have drank too many Chang beers? :greengrin

Totally agree. There is a serious legal and financial malaise in Scotland that seems to be personified in Gorgieland, where there is a reluctance to tell the truth. Does "supervision" even exist as an official piece of accounting terminology. BDO are a professional oufit and Mr Jackson will wish to get onto his next football admin/ liquidation as soon as possible.

[bighairyfaeleith]

Hi GG,

I'm currently living in Thailand so i do try to keep up to date with things. I see in your post you say "administration is now over" When did this happen? i thought they said they wouldnae be out of Admin until into next year at the earliest?

Or am i just having one of those "whoosh" moments and have drank too many Chang beers? :greengrin

Ah elephant piss.

They are still in admin but bdo are using different terminology now the cva has been agreed to justify taking money directly from hearts now

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[gorgie greens]

Hi GG,

I'm currently living in Thailand so i do try to keep up to date with things. I see in your post you say "administration is now over" When did this happen? i thought they said they wouldnae be out of Admin until into next year at the earliest?

Or am i just having one of those "whoosh" moments and have drank too many Chang beers? :greengrin

im no financial whizz but ,the admin is not over there is a 30 day cooling period,and the main fact is the Hear7s shares are still under lock and key due to the ammount of fraud the madvlad did with his various companies,aand cannot see this being fixed in a long,long time,sure some one more clued up on this will confirm what i have said,failling that read back 20 pages or so.

[marti1875]

Ah elephant piss.

They are still in admin but bdo are using different terminology now the cva has been agreed to justify taking money directly from hearts now

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Hey, i quite like the "Elephant piss" as you put it, thank you very much....better than the awful Singha! :greengrin

Anyway, cool, just wondered but if it means they can now start bleeding them for money that all good then for sure, cheers :greengrin

[ny1875]

Hi GG,

I'm currently living in Thailand so i do try to keep up to date with things. I see in your post you say "administration is now over" When did this happen? i thought they said they wouldnae be out of Admin until into next year at the earliest?

Or am i just having one of those "whoosh" moments and have drank too many Chang beers? :greengrin

Where's the place to be on Bangkok for hogmany Marti? And any ideas for watching the derby?

[gorgie greens]

Where's the place to be on Bangkok for hogmany Marti? And any ideas for watching the derby?

loads of places to go if you want your toes curled up,i used to go to Nana plazza,but you will be spoiled for choice where the game will be shown,enjoy yourself and wrap up

[ny1875]

loads of places to go if you want your toes curled up,i used to go to Nana plazza,but you will be spoiled for choice where the game will be shown,enjoy yourself and wrap up

Haha, just somewhere for me n Mrs to watch the squeebs for the bells...

[bighairyfaeleith]

Hey, i quite like the "Elephant piss" as you put it, thank you very much....better than the awful Singha! :greengrin

Anyway, cool, just wondered but if it means they can now start bleeding them for money that all good then for sure, cheers :greengrin

It was my favourite too, but that's what the locals kept telling me it was.

[marti1875]

Where's the place to be on Bangkok for hogmany Marti? And any ideas for watching the derby?

Oh too many in Bangkok, somewhere like Khao San rd will show all games. I'm up north though in the land that time forgot unfortunately :greengrin

Anyway, better get back on topic or we'll be getting a slap on the wrists :greengrin

[gorgie greens]

Oh too many in Bangkok, somewhere like Khao San rd will show all games. I'm up north though in the land that time forgot unfortunately :greengrin

Anyway, better get back on topic or we'll be getting a slap on the wrists :greengrin

ny1875 there is a pub called chequers in Sukhumvit soi 4,it shows the SPL,saying that they wont be showing any The Rangers or Hear7s games from August next year though :greengrin

[Mikey]

Anyway, better get back on topic or we'll be getting a slap on the wrists :greengrin

:slipper:

:wink:

[itslegaltender]

I've been told today that morale is still very low. Nothing much is happening now the CVA has been approved but they are throwing ideas around for how to sell hospitality. They want to leave it as long as possible before doing any offers on standard walk ups. As I said the other day attendances "are not what the BBC website says they are".

We we could see Season Tickets on sale late January/February but I will stress that's just an idea just now. The worry is there's no additional income coming from anywhere other than a potential League Cup final.

One of my Jumbo mates was telling me how the "exec" boxes for hospitality at the Swynie are furked. Calor gas heaters in each of them as the heating is knackered. Walls are peeling, there was no food provided either. Anyone paying for that just now is effectively a nut job, not going to impress any clients, thats for sure.

[southsider]

This latest episode simply demonstrates the power that message boards and social media have nowadays. If Twitter etc...was around 20 odd years ago I wonder how the Mercer saga would have turned out.

All these thinly veiled threats on the internet should still be investigated though and Foulkes, at the very least, should have to publicly explain his comments.

Not any different. He sh*t himself then as he would now. Anyway direct action is always better than sending messages from a computer.

[greenginger]

Hi GG,

I'm currently living in Thailand so i do try to keep up to date with things. I see in your post you say "administration is now over" When did this happen? i thought they said they wouldnae be out of Admin until into next year at the earliest?

Or am i just having one of those "whoosh" moments and have drank too many Chang beers? :greengrin

Sorry to cause a panic. It is just a technicality. Companies House web site noted the Yams Status as in administration but changed it on Monday to Voluntary Arrangement.

The CVA was voted through last Friday but BDO are still running things at the PBS with the status of " under supervision ". It will make a difference to what contracts they can tear up and staff they can ditch, but they still need the UBIG shares before they can start to return to normal trading. Dunfermline still have not completed their legal paperwork.

I think the main difference is Ukio Bankas will payfor the admin. process through the proceeds of the sale to FoH or liquidation and now the cost of Supervision comes from the income generated at the PBS ( but not next years season ticket money ). I'm sure Robinp can explain things properly.

There is also a note that the change from admin. to supervision date is provisional and depends on any appeal against the vote.

Come on HMRC, we need your objections soon !

[whiskyhibby]

Why can't we pick up the baton that sideshow bob has put down...........we could offer £50k for the shares that £10 each for 5000 of us plus a little but more for solicitors fees etc, anyone interested?

[Gmack7]

Why can't we pick up the baton that sideshow bob has put down...........we could offer £50k for the shares that £10 each for 5000 of us plus a little but more for solicitors fees etc, anyone interested?
If the PM fee was waived for a year surely that would cover it

[ny1875]

ny1875 there is a pub called chequers in Sukhumvit soi 4,it shows the SPL,saying that they wont be showing any The Rangers or Hear7s games from August next year though :greengrin

Cheers guys!

Sorry Mikey :-)

Ggtth

[Titch]

Why can't we pick up the baton that sideshow bob has put down...........we could offer £50k for the shares that £10 each for 5000 of us plus a little but more for solicitors fees etc, anyone interested?

:top marks:aok:

[inglisavhibs]

Sorry to cause a panic. It is just a technicality. Companies House web site noted the Yams Status as in administration but changed it on Monday to Voluntary Arrangement.

The CVA was voted through last Friday but BDO are still running things at the PBS with the status of " under supervision ". It will make a difference to what contracts they can tear up and staff they can ditch, but they still need the UBIG shares before they can start to return to normal trading. Dunfermline still have not completed their legal paperwork.

I think the main difference is Ukio Bankas will payfor the admin. process through the proceeds of the sale to FoH or liquidation and now the cost of Supervision comes from the income generated at the PBS ( but not next years season ticket money ). I'm sure Robinp can explain things properly.

There is also a note that the change from admin. to supervision date is provisional and depends on any appeal against the vote.

Come on HMRC, we need your objections soon !
What if the income generated is not enough to cover normal running costs plus BDO costs.Who pays the difference?

[greenginger]

What if the income generated is not enough to cover normal running costs plus BDO costs.Who pays the difference?

I think they start asking FoH to get the wallet out and fire up the ovens.

[inglisavhibs]

I think they start asking FoH to get the wallet out and fire up the ovens.
They have been fortunate so far with paydays in both cups but December especially will generate next to nothing. I hope BDO have put something away for a rainy day!:aok:

[happiehibbie]

What would it take to put a fabricated bid in to ukio for the stadium alone?

Just to delay things further with no real intention of paying for anything or even having the cash to begin with. A bid for the stadium alone which would top FOHs bid for the entire club.

Would this be possible and would it be counterproductive as far as the FOH bid goes?

😉

[greenginger]

http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dukio%2Bbankas%2B15min%26client%3Dfire fox-a%26hs%3Dmda%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official&rurl=translate.google.co.uk&sl=lt&u=http://www.15min.lt/naujiena/aktualu/lietuva/buvusi-ukio-banko-investicines-grupes-juriste-vladimiro-romanovo-seseri-kaltina-persekiojimu-56-390561&usg=ALkJrhjgxYA3bbgx2Dgtdwfd3i4OIOVfrQ

Its a bit gobbly-gook, but I think it says Vlad's sister Olga is a bit p*ssed that she might get prosecuted while Prince Vlad has done a runner.

Its the Ukio Bankas admin. that should be prosecuted. :greengrin

[greenginger]

http://www.lrytas.lt/lietuvos-diena/aktualijos/v-romanovo-sesuo-pakilo-i-kova-su-nepalankiais-liudininkais.htm#.UqL099JdVig


A bit more detail in this article. It would seem Vlad sister assaulted a woman who had acted as UBIG's lawyer because of the statement she had given to investigators.

What was interesting it says Olga was backed up by her driver and a Scotsman who acted as her security. Any ideas who ?

[GreenLake]

http://www.lrytas.lt/lietuvos-diena/aktualijos/v-romanovo-sesuo-pakilo-i-kova-su-nepalankiais-liudininkais.htm#.UqL099JdVig


A bit more detail in this article. It would seem Vlad sister assaulted a woman who had acted as UBIG's lawyer because of the statement she had given to investigators.

What was interesting it says Olga was backed up by her driver and a Scotsman who acted as her security. Any ideas who ?

Andrew? :greengrin

[Ronniekirk]

http://www.lrytas.lt/lietuvos-diena/aktualijos/v-romanovo-sesuo-pakilo-i-kova-su-nepalankiais-liudininkais.htm#.UqL099JdVig


A bit more detail in this article. It would seem Vlad sister assaulted a woman who had acted as UBIG's lawyer because of the statement she had given to investigators.

What was interesting it says Olga was backed up by her driver and a Scotsman who acted as her security. Any ideas who ?
Vladimir Mictavish. It's an Alias .

[ScottB]

Interesting tidbit, apparently the fans have taken to buying student tickets online, then not actually going. So they are paying money but not wanting to watch.

How true that is or how many are doing it I don't know...

[Jack]

Interesting tidbit, apparently the fans have taken to buying student tickets online, then not actually going. So they are paying money but not wanting to watch.

How true that is or how many are doing it I don't know...

There were rumours of similar at the beginning of the season with season tickets.

When crowds were strong it meant walk ups couldn't pay full price for those empty seats. I suppose now that walk ups have all but dried up at least the yams are getting something for these seats.

6 of one half a dozen of the other.

[Springbank]

Even when jambos try their hardest to be charitable they still find a way to fall short and look cheap
Pay full price ya fuds

[Keith_M]

OK, I'm now convinced they're going to get relegated.


15 Games gone and they've only made up 1 point on 2nd bottom (who have a game in hand)

[Gus Fring]

Interesting tidbit, apparently the fans have taken to buying student tickets online, then not actually going. So they are paying money but not wanting to watch.

How true that is or how many are doing it I don't know...

Could be true because there's definitely less people actually going than season tickets sold. It seems a particularly daft way of doing things though as they are not only taking the seat away from potential walk ups 18-20 times a season but they are also guaranteeing those seats will be empty. The more of them that do this the more empty the stadium will look.

Why would they not just donate the money to one of the many, many, many different schemes set up or buy the ticket and give it to a Yam friend who maybe can't afford it.

[Jack Hackett]

Could be true because there's definitely less people actually going than season tickets sold. It seems a particularly daft way of doing things though as they are not only taking the seat away from potential walk ups 18-20 times a season but they are also guaranteeing those seats will be empty. The more of them that do this the more empty the stadium will look.

Why would they not just donate the money to one of the many, many, many different schemes set up or buy the ticket and give it to a Yam friend who maybe can't afford it.

Don't you have to provide some sort of proof to get seats at student prices? What actual student could afford to buy tickets and not use them anyway? I'm afraid I don't follow their logic....but then it's yams we're dealing with :rolleyes:

[EK_Hibs]

I liked this thread a lot better when there were genuine rumours of those despicable, slimey, cheating, yam fuds getting liquidated.

[DarrenSQH]

I liked this thread a lot better when there were genuine rumours of those despicable, slimey, cheating, yam fuds getting liquidated.

I liked it better when they had the Point penalty and were miles behind the rest of the SPL......... oops :thumbsup:

[Gus Fring]

Don't you have to provide some sort of proof to get seats at student prices? What actual student could afford to buy tickets and not use them anyway? I'm afraid I don't follow their logic....but then it's yams we're dealing with :rolleyes:

I assume they are buying them but never collecting them. I would be very surprised if this was particularly widespread. It seems Yams like to come up with convoluted ways they are keeping the club going but that are difficult to disprove. Every time I hear or read of any of these daft wee schemes it just makes me realise how unsustainable they are as a business.

[Onion]

OK, I'm now convinced they're going to get relegated.


15 Games gone and they've only made up 1 point on 2nd bottom (who have a game in hand)

And.... they were always going to have their best results early in the season :greengrin

The longer this season goes on, the more futile their position will be, the more likely they are to have further thrashings. By the end of the season, most of these Yams will be wishing they'd entered Admin before the end of last season and gone straight to jail.

[Gus Fring]

And.... they were always going to have their best results early in the season :greengrin

The longer this season goes on, the more futile their position will be, the more likely they are to have further thrashings. By the end of the season, most of these Yams will be wishing they'd entered Admin before the end of last season and gone straight to jail.


:agree:. Considering how small their squad is I wouldn't be surprised if injuries and fatigue mean a few matches have to be postponed.

The only squad rotation Gary Locke will be seeing this season is when the children he manages start spinning round on the spot to see who gets the dizziest.

[Col2]

I got told yesterday that BDO have told the Lockster that they will consider ALL offers for players and NEED cash from all sources to keep things going. Expect Walker, Pattetson an Holt to move on for 5 figure sums.

[Jack Hackett]

I got told yesterday that BDO have told the Lockster that they will consider ALL offers for players and NEED cash from all sources to keep things going. Expect Walker, Pattetson an Holt to move on for 5 figure sums.

I love a positive post :aok:

[Craig_in_Prague]

ho-ho-ho

a pishy team to get pishier, Locke will be delighted with all this pishness.

Pleasing.

[Waxy]

I reckon it could be February before their points total hits above the temperature in Scotland.

[SloopJB]

I got told yesterday that BDO have told the Lockster that they will consider ALL offers for players and NEED cash from all sources to keep things going. Expect Walker, Pattetson an Holt to move on for 5 figure sums.
Wonder who leaked the info, Locke or BDO?

[green glory]

Wonder who leaked the info, Locke or BDO?

Wrong kind of leak for Locke.

Must've been BDO. ;-)

[147lothian]

So Bob Jamison has ditched his plan to put in a rival bid for the shares, im still not sure what his motive was but it makes me wonder if someone else will make a bid now and burst the baw for the FoH?

[Phil D. Rolls]

I got told yesterday that BDO have told the Lockster that they will consider ALL offers for players and NEED cash from all sources to keep things going. Expect Walker, Pattetson an Holt to move on for 5 figure sums.

Buy them as a job lot, and play them in the under 20s, develop them slowly, like Locke has said they should be. We'd be helping Hearts out.

[EK_Hibs]

So Bob Jamison has ditched his plan to put in a rival bid for the shares, im still not sure what his motive was but it makes me wonder if someone else will make a bid now and burst the baw for the FoH?

Possibly Massone? But unlikely.
I'm beginning to accept defeat in that there definitely won't be any liquidation but there most certainly will be a relegation... Deserved as well.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Interesting tidbit, apparently the fans have taken to buying student tickets online, then not actually going. So they are paying money but not wanting to watch.

How true that is or how many are doing it I don't know...


it's maybe the HWU hertz appreciation society, i mean..they do like giving freebies to the gimps don't they

[theonlywayisup]

OK, I'm now convinced they're going to get relegated.


15 Games gone and they've only made up 1 point on 2nd bottom (who have a game in hand)

The fixtures up to end of January will be key to determining their fate. They have:

ICT (H)
Celtic (A)
Killie (H)
St. Mirren (A)
Hibs (A)
Partick (H)
Well (H)
St. Johnstone (A)
Ross County (A)

County have a few difficult games:

Well (H)
United (A)
Hibs (H)
Dons (A)
ICT (A)
St. Johnstone (H)
Partick (A)
United (H)
Hertz (H)

Don't think County will get many from those games above unless they up their performances. Killie have a few winnable games coming up.

[Deansy]

Wonder what's the chances of them being (mathematically) relegated BEFORE they actually achieve a positive-point in the league ??.

[Dashing Bob S]

Wonder what's the chances of them being (mathematically) relegated BEFORE they actually achieve a positive-point in the league ??.

Very remote, I should imagine, but fun to think about.

[Jack]

I was speaking to a pet yam yesterday. He was always optimistic although reasonably grounded with reality. There was always the possibility of relegation; still having a club after listening to the news was always a relief.

Step change yesterday.

Him and his yampals now accept relegation is a certainty but they don't think they'll be around for it!!!!

Wow, the bit that surprised me was they now openly think that despite the CVA going through [provisionally, I reminded him] it is becoming more likely they won't make it to kick off next season.

Never heard such chat from a jambo. I almost felt sorry for him.