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Woody1985
26-06-2009, 05:07 PM
WTF are they all about?

I assume they were originally started to break down barriers between the main hetro population and the gay population.

Now that we have laws protecting people's sexuality, having the ability for civil partnership, are represented pretty much everywhere, can adopt children etc etc etc why is there a need to go on a march?

Just curious (not that curious!) but I just don't get it. We are reminded daily whether it be through press, at work, conversations with people etc that people's sexuality doesn't matter. So why is there a need to march around expressing your sexuality or showing you support homosexuals?

:tin hat::tin hat::tin hat: before the homophobic accusations begin.

flash
26-06-2009, 05:10 PM
Jeez i need to visit this board more often. This is gonna be another doozy of a thread.

Phil D. Rolls
26-06-2009, 05:25 PM
Jeez i need to visit this board more often. This is gonna be another doozy of a thread.

I'm just doing a bit of research first, I'm sure this could be another five pager.

Woody1985
26-06-2009, 05:27 PM
I'm just doing a bit of research first, I'm sure this could be another five pager.

Five pages are sooooo last week. :greengrin

shamo9
26-06-2009, 05:31 PM
My friend's gay, am I eligible to enter the thread?:dummytit:

Phil D. Rolls
26-06-2009, 05:32 PM
Alright, I'll start. It seems to me that the Pride marches are as much about people getting laid as making a statement.

The organisers would argue that it is a section of the community celebrating its uniqueness in a similar way to the Mela for Asian people, or local galas.

Betty Boop
26-06-2009, 05:33 PM
WTF are they all about?

I assume they were originally started to break down barriers between the main hetro population and the gay population.

Now that we have laws protecting people's sexuality, having the ability for civil partnership, are represented pretty much everywhere, can adopt children etc etc etc why is there a need to go on a march?

Just curious (not that curious!) but I just don't get it. We are reminded daily whether it be through press, at work, conversations with people etc that people's sexuality doesn't matter. So why is there a need to march around expressing your sexuality or showing you support homosexuals?

:tin hat::tin hat::tin hat: before the homophobic accusations begin.
Gay people still face prejudice in Society, its not so long ago that homosexuality was illegal.

Jack
26-06-2009, 05:40 PM
Its just an excuse :agree:




















for a party :music:

ancienthibby
26-06-2009, 05:48 PM
Gay people still face prejudice in Society, its not so long ago that homosexuality was illegal.

And, as a result of all the PC legislation to 'protect/support' gays, so now do many other parts of society!!

But, as someone else once said, 'what goes around comes around'!!

Betty Boop
26-06-2009, 05:54 PM
And, as a result of all the PC legislation to 'protect/support' gays, so now do many other parts of society!!

But, as someone else once said, 'what goes around comes around'!!

What PC legislation?

Mibbes Aye
26-06-2009, 05:55 PM
And, as a result of all the PC legislation to 'protect/support' gays, so now do many other parts of society!!



What's all this "PC legislation" to "support gays"?

When was it passed and which parts of society face prejudice as a consequence (and why)?

Or are you just at it? :greengrin

Phil D. Rolls
26-06-2009, 05:55 PM
What PC legislation?

I believe that murdering them is no longer legal. What will they ask for next?

Mibbes Aye
26-06-2009, 06:00 PM
I believe that murdering them is no longer legal. What will they ask for next?

Aye, you say that but it did use to be a crime punishable by death.That was changed to life imprisonment. Then it was reduced to transportation. Then that was reduced to a few years in prison. Then it was merely a fine. Now it's legal...........They'll be making it compulsory next :rolleyes:



(With apologies to the stand-up who I can't remember, who came up with that)

Plumber
26-06-2009, 06:08 PM
i'd like to start HIBS Marches cause referee's , sfa and edinburgh council are prejudice towards us.

i personally couldn't give a flying **** about gorGAY folk though :thumbsup:

Phil D. Rolls
26-06-2009, 06:14 PM
i'd like to start HIBS Marches cause referee's , sfa and edinburgh council are prejudice towards us.

i personally couldn't give a flying **** about gorGAY folk though :thumbsup:

ker-toosh!

LiverpoolHibs
26-06-2009, 06:38 PM
And, as a result of all the PC legislation to 'protect/support' gays, so now do many other parts of society!!

But, as someone else once said, 'what goes around comes around'!!


What PC legislation?


What's all this "PC legislation" to "support gays"?

When was it passed and which parts of society face prejudice as a consequence (and why)?

Or are you just at it? :greengrin

I must say, I'm very much looking forward to these questions being answered. It should be fun...

ArabHibee
26-06-2009, 07:02 PM
My friend's gay, am I eligible to enter the thread?:dummytit:

When people say "I have a friend......." its normally themselves they are talking about.

C'mon now, don't be shy, we're all pretty liberal on here! :greengrin

Woody1985
26-06-2009, 07:05 PM
So is the genreal consesus that these aren't about awareness etc and more of a big 'meet' for people to get together?

Has anyone been on one before?

LiverpoolHibs
26-06-2009, 07:08 PM
So is the genreal consesus that these aren't about awareness etc and more of a big 'meet' for people to get together?

Has anyone been on one before?

I'd say they're still about awareness. You only need to read JKB and, to a lesser extent, this place to see the extent to which homophobia is still an acceptable prejudice to hold.

LiverpoolHibs
26-06-2009, 07:17 PM
When people say "I have a friend......." its normally themselves they are talking about.

C'mon now, don't be shy, we're all pretty liberal on here! :greengrin

Have you had a political conversion in the last couple of days?

Mibbes Aye
26-06-2009, 07:20 PM
I must say, I'm very much looking forward to these questions being answered. It should be fun...

I'm sure ancienthibby's just dusting down the statute books......:rolleyes: :greengrin

ArabHibee
26-06-2009, 07:34 PM
Have you had a political conversion in the last couple of days?

Nope, was just trying to coax him out of his shell. :greengrin

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26-06-2009, 08:13 PM
I'd say they're still about awareness. You only need to read JKB and, to a lesser extent, this place to see the extent to which homophobia is still an acceptable prejudice to hold.

Awareness of what, we all know what they do, they're perverts.

That's my opinion and them marching won't change my mind. If i'm classed as homophobic then fine, i don't mind.

Jonnyboy
26-06-2009, 08:16 PM
Awareness of what, we all know what they do, they're perverts.

That's my opinion and them marching won't change my mind. If i'm classed as homophobic then fine, i don't mind.

Bloody hell, is there something in the Hibs.net water just now? :bitchy:

Hibby D
26-06-2009, 08:16 PM
Awareness of what, we all know what they do, they're perverts.

That's my opinion and them marching won't change my mind. If i'm classed as homophobic then fine, i don't mind.

Whilst I'm picking my jaw up off the floor can I just ask you to clarify this? No let me...you are saying that gay men and women are perverts, yes?

Removed
26-06-2009, 08:17 PM
Whilst I'm picking my jaw up off the floor can I just ask you to clarify this? No let me...you are saying that gay men and women are perverts, yes?

Just the men :greengrin

Hibby D
26-06-2009, 08:21 PM
Just the men :greengrin

That sits very uncomfortable with me - why are gay men perverts? :confused:

Mibbes Aye
26-06-2009, 08:23 PM
Just the men :greengrin

:faf:

Because?........

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26-06-2009, 08:27 PM
That sits very uncomfortable with me - why are gay men perverts? :confused:

That's why I don't do it :greengrin

But seriously, I believe that men and women were created to have sex togther not men and men or women and women. Our bits were made for a purpose and gay sex is not natural imo.

If they want to do it then fine but I don't want it shoved in my face with gay marches. I could say the same about the orange order, james connolly marches etc

LiverpoolHibs
26-06-2009, 08:27 PM
Awareness of what, we all know what they do, they're perverts.

That's my opinion and them marching won't change my mind. If i'm classed as homophobic then fine, i don't mind.

Hmmm, yeah, I think that pretty much classifies you as homophobic...

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26-06-2009, 08:29 PM
Hmmm, yeah, I think that pretty much classifies you as homophobic...


Cheers :thumbsup:

Hiber-nation
26-06-2009, 08:30 PM
When people say "I have a friend......." its normally themselves they are talking about.

C'mon now, don't be shy, we're all pretty liberal on here! :greengrin

Jeezus H.

Removed
26-06-2009, 08:31 PM
Bloody hell, is there something in the Hibs.net water just now? :bitchy:

It was getting dead boring recently though J, the past 24 hours have been very entertaining, just get Macar back and it'll really top the weekend.

Oh and I'm on the shiraz :greengrin

Jonnyboy
26-06-2009, 08:32 PM
That's why I don't do it :greengrin

But seriously, I believe that men and women were created to have sex togther not men and men or women and women. Our bits were made for a purpose and gay sex is not natural imo.

If they want to do it then fine but I don't want it shoved in my face with gay marches. I could say the same about the orange order, james connolly marches etc

So let me get this right Billy. You and I have met on numerous occasions and we get along pretty well so if I were to suddenly announce to you that I was gay (which I'm not) you'd immediately brand me a pervert?

Hibby D
26-06-2009, 08:32 PM
Cheers :thumbsup:

Gosh to think I've welcomed you into my home too :bitchy:

Hiber-nation
26-06-2009, 08:33 PM
Actually its quite staggering the number of of homophobic racists on here. Shame you must have all led such a sheltered life. Shame.

Mibbes Aye
26-06-2009, 08:34 PM
That's why I don't do it :greengrin

But seriously, I believe that men and women were created to have sex togther not men and men or women and women. Our bits were made for a purpose and gay sex is not natural imo.

If they want to do it then fine but I don't want it shoved in my face with gay marches. I could say the same about the orange order, james connolly marches etc

Don't stand so close to the railings then! Jeezo :rolleyes: :greengrin

Hibby D
26-06-2009, 08:36 PM
Actually its quite staggering the number of of homophobic racists on here. Shame you must have all led such a sheltered life. Shame.



Please please God let that not be true :no way:

LiverpoolHibs
26-06-2009, 08:37 PM
That's why I don't do it :greengrin

But seriously, I believe that men and women were created to have sex togther not men and men or women and women. Our bits were made for a purpose and gay sex is not natural imo.

If they want to do it then fine but I don't want it shoved in my face with gay marches. I could say the same about the orange order, james connolly marches etc

What church (or other place of worship) do you attend?

Plumber
26-06-2009, 08:38 PM
That's why I don't do it :greengrin

But seriously, I believe that men and women were created to have sex togther not men and men or women and women. Our bits were made for a purpose and gay sex is not natural imo.

If they want to do it then fine but I don't want it shoved in my face with gay marches. I could say the same about the orange order, james connolly marches etc

:woohoo:i couldn't agree more. you can add jehovas , christians and whoever.

ArabHibee
26-06-2009, 08:38 PM
Jeezus H.

And your point is?

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26-06-2009, 08:39 PM
So let me get this right Billy. You and I have met on numerous occasions and we get along pretty well so if I were to suddenly announce to you that I was gay (which I'm not) you'd immediately brand me a pervert?

Depends how you define the term "brand". I wouldn't go on and on and on about it all the time, and I wouldn't want to fall out with you about it either. I have homosexual friends and work colleagues who know my views. We agree to disagree but there are are more important things in life than our sexual preferences and we all accept that.

Removed
26-06-2009, 08:41 PM
Gosh to think I've welcomed you into my home too :bitchy:

So am I not welcome any more then?

Phil D. Rolls
26-06-2009, 08:42 PM
That's why I don't do it :greengrin

But seriously, I believe that men and women were created to have sex togther not men and men or women and women. Our bits were made for a purpose and gay sex is not natural imo.

If they want to do it then fine but I don't want it shoved in my face with gay marches. I could say the same about the orange order, james connolly marches etc

I think the logical conclusion to your argument is that sex should only be for making babies.

(((Fergus)))
26-06-2009, 08:42 PM
maybe it's also because things that deep down you know are not right are easier to justify to yourself if you are in a group where everyone is doing it?

Hiber-nation
26-06-2009, 08:43 PM
And your point is?

Just amazed at your original post. Unless it was satire of course....

Jonnyboy
26-06-2009, 08:44 PM
That's why I don't do it :greengrin

But seriously, I believe that men and women were created to have sex togther not men and men or women and women. Our bits were made for a purpose and gay sex is not natural imo.

If they want to do it then fine but I don't want it shoved in my face with gay marches. I could say the same about the orange order, james connolly marches etc


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:woohoo:i couldn't agree more. you can add jehovas , christians and whoever.

Unless these marches are parading past you I fail to see how it is being shoved in your face

Hibby D
26-06-2009, 08:44 PM
So am I not welcome any more then?

Eh, no :top marks

Jonnyboy
26-06-2009, 08:45 PM
Depends how you define the term "brand". I wouldn't go on and on and on about it all the time, and I wouldn't want to fall out with you about it either. I have homosexual friends and work colleagues who know my views. We agree to disagree but there are are more important things in life than our sexual preferences and we all accept that.

Ah right so your homosexual friends and colleagues are quite happy for you to brand them as perverts?

Phil D. Rolls
26-06-2009, 08:46 PM
Unless these marches are parading past you I fail to see how it is being shoved in your face

Or it could be that people just don't want them to exist at all. All this stuff about people can do what they want if they don't shove it in my face is just an excuse.

Plumber
26-06-2009, 08:47 PM
Unless these marches are parading past you I fail to see how it is being shoved in your face

it's not just the shoving it in your face. how much does it cost to police these damned marches, not just gay one's, and all the disruption it causes.

if they really need to hold these marches then do it in a field out off town and out off site :wink:

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26-06-2009, 08:47 PM
I think the logical conclusion to your argument is that sex should only be for making babies.

Is that your logical conclusion as a nurse? If so I don't agree, I've had lots of fun having sex but I just don't want to do it with a bloke

LiverpoolHibs
26-06-2009, 08:48 PM
maybe it's also because things that deep down you know are not right are easier to justify to yourself if you are in a group where everyone is doing it?

That's some sound logic right there.

****ing hell...

Jonnyboy
26-06-2009, 08:48 PM
Or it could be that people just don't want them to exist at all. All this stuff about people can do what they want if they don't shove it in my face is just an excuse.

For what exactly? If union members march are they shoving something in your face? All marches do is tend to bring together people of a like mind surely. It seems to me that the very intolerance displayed by some posters is justification for people marching to establish their right to live their lives the way they choose to live them

hibsbollah
26-06-2009, 08:48 PM
we're all pretty liberal on here! :greengrin

Thats really not true, is it?:greengrin

LiverpoolHibs
26-06-2009, 08:49 PM
Is that your logical conclusion as a nurse? If so I don't agree, I've had lots of fun having sex but I just don't want to do it with a bloke

Ipso facto, homosexuals are perverts...

Who in their right mind could argue with that?!

You've haven't answered my question about what church you attend.

Jonnyboy
26-06-2009, 08:49 PM
it's not just the shoving it in your face. how much does it cost to police these damned marches, not just gay one's, and all the disruption it causes.

if they really need to hold these marches then do it in a field out off town and out off site :wink:

The whole point of such marches is to highlight their plight - pointless doing it in the way you suggest

(((Fergus)))
26-06-2009, 08:49 PM
That's some sound logic right there.

****ing hell...

well logically explain what is wrong with it.

ArabHibee
26-06-2009, 08:50 PM
Jeezus H.


Just amazed at your original post. Unless it was satire of course....

I was having a laugh. Haven't you ever heard people saying "Oh a friend of mine had to go to the doctor's about this personal problem" or "Oh a friend of mine had problems in the sack" and its their way of saying it's actually themselves they are speaking about but are too embarrassed to admit it.

Jeezus H :greengrin

LiverpoolHibs
26-06-2009, 08:51 PM
it's not just the shoving it in your face. how much does it cost to police these damned marches, not just gay one's, and all the disruption it causes.

if they really need to hold these marches then do it in a field out off town and out off site :wink:

I think you've missed a fairly fundamental point about marches somewhere...

Phil D. Rolls
26-06-2009, 08:52 PM
Is that your logical conclusion as a nurse? If so I don't agree, I've had lots of fun having sex but I just don't want to do it with a bloke

Listen, gonnae leave out the nurse stuff please? I mentioned my job in a very specific context, and I don't think it should be something people use to beat me up with. Ta.

I didn't suggest you should want to have sex with a guy, I was responding to your reason why it is "unnatural". If nature is the argument, then any sex that isn't for procreation would be wrong.

LiverpoolHibs
26-06-2009, 08:54 PM
well logically explain what is wrong with it.

It logically follows from your argument (such as it is) that any large congregation of people is merely an assuaging of a particular guilt that their cause is 'wrong' - or, at the very least, that this accusation can be levelled at them. That is, patently, bollocks.

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26-06-2009, 08:54 PM
Ah right so your homosexual friends and colleagues are quite happy for you to brand them as perverts?

They don't go on and on and on and on and on about being gay like most gays, just like I don't go on and on about being heterosexual. We don't have slanging matches, just open and honest debate. They know I think gay sex is perverted and I know what they think but it's just not enough to fall out about.

Plumber
26-06-2009, 08:55 PM
The whole point of such marches is to highlight their plight - pointless doing it in the way you suggest

but tell me what they're highlighting. if they choose to be gay then so be it but why do they have to tell me about it. Hetrosexuals don't have marches to let people know they're straight.

(((Fergus)))
26-06-2009, 08:55 PM
I think the logical conclusion to your argument is that sex should only be for making babies.

That's not really logical IMO. Sex, like eating or drinking, should be both pleasurable and functional. Homosexuality is like tasting food but never eating it. Artificial insemination, on the other hand, is like eating food but never tasting it.

Phil D. Rolls
26-06-2009, 08:55 PM
For what exactly? If union members march are they shoving something in your face? All marches do is tend to bring together people of a like mind surely. It seems to me that the very intolerance displayed by some posters is justification for people marching to establish their right to live their lives the way they choose to live them

Sorry, I might have been unclear on my point. I am favour of the march, because it is clear that a lot of people still have a problem accepting diversity,

I think that people are making out they are happy for people to be gay in private aren't really happy about it at all, and would prefer that homosexuals didn't exist.

ArabHibee
26-06-2009, 08:55 PM
Thats really not true, is it?:greengrin

Ehm :hmmm:

No! :greengrin

Phil D. Rolls
26-06-2009, 08:56 PM
That's not really logical IMO. Sex, like eating or drinking, should be both pleasurable and functional. Homosexuality is like tasting food but never eating it. Artificial insemination, on the other hand, is like eating food but never tasting it.

You've lost me. :confused:

da-robster
26-06-2009, 08:57 PM
They don't go on and on and on and on and on about being gay like most gays, just like I don't go on and on about being heterosexual. We don't have slanging matches, just open and honest debate. They know I think gay sex is perverted and I know what they think but it's just not enough to fall out about.

How do you know this do you have any evidence or do you assume. :confused:

Jonnyboy
26-06-2009, 08:58 PM
They don't go on and on and on and on and on about being gay like most gays, just like I don't go on and on about being heterosexual. We don't have slanging matches, just open and honest debate. They know I think gay sex is perverted and I know what they think but it's just not enough to fall out about.

That is the most ridiculous sweeping stereotypical statement it's been my displeasure to read in many a long day Billy :bitchy:

Hiber-nation
26-06-2009, 08:58 PM
I was having a laugh. Haven't you ever heard people saying "Oh a friend of mine had to go to the doctor's about this personal problem" or "Oh a friend of mine had problems in the sack" and its their way of saying it's actually themselves they are speaking about but are too embarrassed to admit it.

Jeezus H :greengrin

Oh aye that....but that's not what you said though, is it?

But you were having a laugh so that's fine, eh.

Jonnyboy
26-06-2009, 08:59 PM
but tell me what they're highlighting. if they choose to be gay then so be it but why do they have to tell me about it. Hetrosexuals don't have marches to let people know they're straight.

It's fairly straightforward what they are trying to highlight. They are discriminated against because they are gay. You only need to read this thread, including your own posts, to see examples of that discrimination.

(((Fergus)))
26-06-2009, 09:03 PM
It logically follows from your argument (such as it is) that any large congregation of people is merely an assuaging of a particular guilt that their cause is 'wrong' - or, at the very least, that this accusation can be levelled at them. That is, patently, bollocks.

Not true at all. There are many other reasons for people to congregate. I was merely suggesting one for this case.

Another is the fact that many homosexuals are deficient in a family network - most of them don't have children - however they are still human beings and need that feeling of belonging to a group/family.

LiverpoolHibs
26-06-2009, 09:07 PM
They don't go on and on and on and on and on about being gay like most gays,

Hold on, so the gay people you do know don't continually go on and on about their sexuality unlike those other gay people you don't know (and presumably have never met) who do?

You're priceless!

ArabHibee
26-06-2009, 09:08 PM
Gosh to think I've welcomed you into my home too :bitchy:

What difference does that make? Do you only let people in your house that share the same views as you?

LiverpoolHibs
26-06-2009, 09:09 PM
Not true at all. There are many other reasons for people to congregate. I was merely suggesting one for this case.

Ok, and I suggest that people congregate for football and religion for the same reason.

There are two completely meaningless and pointless hypotheses, brilliant..

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26-06-2009, 09:12 PM
That is the most ridiculous sweeping stereotypical statement it's been my displeasure to read in many a long day Billy :bitchy:

Fine John, that is your opinion and you and others have made it clear you don't agree. I have my opinions and I am not about to start apologising for them. Maybe I should just stick to football related threads in the future.

Plumber
26-06-2009, 09:13 PM
It's fairly straightforward what they are trying to highlight. They are discriminated against because they are gay. You only need to read this thread, including your own posts, to see examples of that discrimination.


explain that to the grandparents who were refused custody off their grandchildren who were handed over to two gay guys.

nowadays there is more positive discrimination geared towards gays now, like asians and other ( supposedly ) minority groups that if these people are interviewed for jobs they've more chance off getting them. even the BNP have been told to employ a coloured person or at least interview them for a post.
this countries gone pc mad and there's more chance off discrimination with minority groups now with the favourism that is put their way.

LiverpoolHibs
26-06-2009, 09:18 PM
explain that to the grandparents who were refused custody off their grandchildren who were handed over to two gay guys.

nowadays there is more positive discrimination geared towards gays now, like asians and other ( supposedly ) minority groups that if these people are interviewed for jobs they've more chance off getting them. even the BNP have been told to employ a coloured person or at least interview them for a post.
this countries gone pc mad and there's more chance off discrimination with minority groups now with the favourism that is put their way.

Christ has someone let that StantonSharkey (or whatever) lad back on?

And 65bd, you still haven't told me what church you attend.

Phil D. Rolls
26-06-2009, 09:19 PM
explain that to the grandparents who were refused custody off their grandchildren who were handed over to two gay guys.

nowadays there is more positive discrimination geared towards gays now, like asians and other ( supposedly ) minority groups that if these people are interviewed for jobs they've more chance off getting them. even the BNP have been told to employ a coloured person or at least interview them for a post.
this countries gone pc mad and there's more chance off discrimination with minority groups now with the favourism that is put their way.

Presumably losing the custody wouldn't have been an issue if it was heterosexual couple who were adopting the kid?

I can't be *rsed with this anymore, some people's ignorance is truly astounding.

Hibby D
26-06-2009, 09:21 PM
What difference does that make? Do you only let people in your house that share the same views as you?

No not at all!! Where are you getting that from? :bitchy: And even if I did, what's it to you? My home, my decision :wink:

Not that it's any of your business but I only invite people into my home that I respect. Tonight I've lost the respect I had for Billy. He has made it absolutely clear that he believes gay men are perverts. Homophobia is not welcome in my home :no way:

ArabHibee
26-06-2009, 09:21 PM
Christ has someone let that StantonSharkey (or whatever) lad back on?

And 65bd, you still haven't told me what church you attend.
You seem really desperate to find out if they go to church. Why is that?

steakbake
26-06-2009, 09:23 PM
Loving the "it's not natural" line. Normally it is peddled by folk who believe in a "supernatural" being. The irony.

It's all good. People should just chill. It's a knees up, I think it's a bit dated because there is a certain level of equality in this society that wasnt found before and isn't found in many other parts of the world and for that reason alone, it's very much still worth having.

Don't worry, bigots, if you go into town tomorrow you're very unlikely to get bummed by an overenthusiastic pride marcher. (If that's what you are worried about). Jeez.

Jonnyboy
26-06-2009, 09:23 PM
explain that to the grandparents who were refused custody off their grandchildren who were handed over to two gay guys.

nowadays there is more positive discrimination geared towards gays now, like asians and other ( supposedly ) minority groups that if these people are interviewed for jobs they've more chance off getting them. even the BNP have been told to employ a coloured person or at least interview them for a post.
this countries gone pc mad and there's more chance off discrimination with minority groups now with the favourism that is put their way.

I despair.

Jonnyboy
26-06-2009, 09:26 PM
Fine John, that is your opinion and you and others have made it clear you don't agree. I have my opinions and I am not about to start apologising for them. Maybe I should just stick to football related threads in the future.

I'm not expecting an apology Billy. Your views as you say.

steakbake
26-06-2009, 09:26 PM
I despair.

It's just not fair that we can't discriminate like we used to.

Jonnyboy
26-06-2009, 09:27 PM
It's just not fair that we can't discriminate like we used to.

I know. This PC world we live in has put all the bigots in a terrible spin :wink: :greengrin

Mibbes Aye
26-06-2009, 09:30 PM
explain that to the grandparents who were refused custody off their grandchildren who were handed over to two gay guys.

nowadays there is more positive discrimination geared towards gays now, like asians and other ( supposedly ) minority groups that if these people are interviewed for jobs they've more chance off getting them. even the BNP have been told to employ a coloured person or at least interview them for a post.
this countries gone pc mad and there's more chance off discrimination with minority groups now with the favourism that is put their way.

As far as it goes 'plumber', have you got the slightest thing to back your statements up? Or is it the usual innuendo and muckslinging.

Aren't your comments really just racist and homophobic?

ArabHibee
26-06-2009, 09:30 PM
No not at all!! Where are you getting that from? :bitchy: And even if I did, what's it to you? My home, my decision :wink:

Not that it's any of your business but I only invite people into my home that I respect. Tonight I've lost the respect I had for Billy. He has made it absolutely clear that he believes gay men are perverts. Homophobia is not welcome in my home :no way:

Maybe I'm not picking this up right but seems a pretty sad thing to fall out with someone about.

And before you start on me, I used to live with a gay guy, he knew my views and I knew his, no respect lost and still very good friends.

MSK
26-06-2009, 09:31 PM
They don't go on and on and on and on and on about being gay like most gays, just like I don't go on and on about being heterosexual. We don't have slanging matches, just open and honest debate. They know I think gay sex is perverted and I know what they think but it's just not enough to fall out about.You are a total blooming joke ...you come on here & spout yer homophobic pish wi yer sidekick Arab then try & crawl back up everyones erses !!!! if it was up to me i would bin the blooming pair of you !!!!!

Unbelievable !!!!

Plumber
26-06-2009, 09:32 PM
Presumably losing the custody wouldn't have been an issue if it was heterosexual couple who were adopting the kid?

I can't be *rsed with this anymore, some people's ignorance is truly astounding.


thats whats wrong, to many people can't be ersed.

if people want to adopt it's not up to me whether it should matter whether they're gay or not. if you read what i replied to then you'll understand where i'm coming from. to say gays are discriminated is total bollocks. they kids would have went to the grandparents if it had been a straight couple.

gays are no more discriminated on than i am. some ****bo's and current buns wouldn't give me the time off day and would jump on my head given a chance because i'm a hibby.

the problem seems to be ' look at me, i'm the only gay in the village' syndrome. WHO GIVES A ****

Jonnyboy
26-06-2009, 09:34 PM
thats whats wrong, to many people can't be ersed.

if people want to adopt it's not up to me whether it should matter whether they're gay or not. if you read what i replied to then you'll understand where i'm coming from. to say gays are discriminated is total bollocks. they kids would have went to the grandparents if it had been a straight couple.
gays are no more discriminated on than i am. some ****bo's and current buns wouldn't give me the time off day and would jump on my head given a chance because i'm a hibby.

the problem seems to be ' look at me, i'm the only gay in the village' syndrome. WHO GIVES A ****


Can you point me at a news report so I can judge this for myself?

Hibby D
26-06-2009, 09:36 PM
Maybe I'm not picking this up right but seems a pretty sad thing to fall out with someone about.

And before you start on me, I used to live with a gay guy, he knew my views and I knew his, no respect lost and still very good friends.

What a lovely story - sorry for getting my knickers in a twist....

da-robster
26-06-2009, 09:36 PM
explain that to the grandparents who were refused custody off their grandchildren who were handed over to two gay guys.

nowadays there is more positive discrimination geared towards gays now, like asians and other ( supposedly ) minority groups that if these people are interviewed for jobs they've more chance off getting them. even the BNP have been told to employ a coloured person or at least interview them for a post.
this countries gone pc mad and there's more chance off discrimination with minority groups now with the favourism that is put their way.

Source

Did you hear that black and asians are far more likely to be stopped by police and searched. is that positive discrimination :confused:

LiverpoolHibs
26-06-2009, 09:38 PM
You seem really desperate to find out if they go to church. Why is that?

Because he stated that he, "believe[s] that men and women were created to have sex togther not men and men or women and women."

So I wanted to find out where abouts it was he worshipped if he believed such things. I think that fact that he's failed to answer, despite being asked three times, suggests that he doesn't at all; and therefore I think that slightly brings into question his argument on the grounds of creation.

Awright?

MSK
26-06-2009, 09:39 PM
Maybe I'm not picking this up right but seems a pretty sad thing to fall out with someone about.

And before you start on me, I used to live with a gay guy, he knew my views and I knew his, no respect lost and still very good friends.Thank you for reporting me to Admin ...i have been well & trully spanked & docked a weeks wages ...i should know better eh ..

ArabHibee
26-06-2009, 09:40 PM
What a lovely story - sorry for getting my knickers in a twist....

No bother, I've found breathing exercises help.

ArabHibee
26-06-2009, 09:42 PM
Thank you for reporting me to Admin ...i have been well & trully spanked & docked a weeks wages ...i should know better eh ..

Who by though? :slipper:

MSK
26-06-2009, 09:42 PM
No bother, I've found breathing exercises help.How about taking yer own advice ...an hour please ..

Removed
26-06-2009, 09:44 PM
You are a total blooming joke ...you come on here & spout yer homophobic pish wi yer sidekick Arab then try & crawl back up everyones erses !!!! if it was up to me i would bin the blooming pair of you !!!!!

Unbelievable !!!!

Whose erse am I trying to crawl back up?

Just because I have a different view!!!!!!!

Some of you lot are unbelievable imo.

Nice edit by the way - and from the admin who regularly picks folk up for bypassing the swear filter

Jonnyboy
26-06-2009, 09:46 PM
Whose erse am I trying to crawl back up?

Just because I have a different view!!!!!!!

Some of you lot are unbelievable imo.

Nice edit by the way - and from the admin who regularly picks folk up for bypassing the swear filter

What lot is that then Billy? Another sweeping generalisation per chance?

Barney McGrew
26-06-2009, 09:46 PM
Some of you lot are unbelievable imo.

What 'lot' do you mean?

ArabHibee
26-06-2009, 09:48 PM
How about taking yer own advice ...an hour please ..

FYI I do my breathing exercises when I'm on here. And they only take less than 5 mins. And I can do 2 things at once. Simples.

Removed
26-06-2009, 09:49 PM
What lot is that then Billy? Another sweeping generalisation per chance?


What 'lot' do you mean?

Well obviously you two for starters then if you really feel the need to respond.

Hiber-nation
26-06-2009, 09:50 PM
FYI I do my breathing exercises when I'm on here. And they only take less than 5 mins. And I can do 2 things at once. Simples.

So tiresome its unbelievable.

Hibby D
26-06-2009, 09:51 PM
Whose erse am I trying to crawl back up?

I'll take a guess....Arab's? :dunno:

Just because I have a different view!!!!!!!

No, just because you have a homophobic view

Some of you lot are unbelievable imo.

:faf: Irony at it's best here

Nice edit by the way - and from the admin who regularly picks folk up for bypassing the swear filter

He's edited because he knows it was wrong - and he didn't need one of us "lot" to tell him either :wink:


.

Jonnyboy
26-06-2009, 09:51 PM
Well obviously you two for starters then if you really feel the need to respond.

OK, now we've established I'm one of the 'lot' you referred to can you tell me in what way I am unbelievable?

Jonnyboy
26-06-2009, 09:52 PM
So tiresome its unbelievable.

Ah but can it be tiresome and unbelievable at the same time? :greengrin

MSK
26-06-2009, 09:53 PM
Whose erse am I trying to crawl back up?

Just because I have a different view!!!!!!!

Some of you lot are unbelievable imo.

Nice edit by the way - and from the admin who regularly picks folk up for bypassing the swear filterBilly you done the same thing last night on the Jackson thread..you tried to be controversial & had yer lacky Arab beside you ...when the going got tough ye backed down ..tonight ye done the same ..jeezo ..ye get involved then ye crawl under a rock !!!!!

As for me bypassing the swear filter ..yep ..hands up ..Arab reported me & i got a telling off from my fellow Admin ...i apologise for that ..