RIP posts

[CB_NO3]

Why do people do this, is it just an excuse for a post. Unless you actually no some person that has died then fair doos but some people just do it for fun. Its like the whole Michael Jackson thing, who cares if he rests in peace, I could not care less as I dont know the guy personaly as most people on here dont. Its the same with other people I dont know. I think its quite patronising when people write it when they deep down actually dont care if they rest in peace or not. I just thought I would get this off my chest as it annoys me.

Cheers
CB

P.S. This is not a Michael Jackson debate btw.

[marinello59]

If it annoys you don't read the relevant thread. Simple.

[flash]

Personally speaking they are the only threads i come to this forum for as they always kick off big style.

[marinello59]

Personally speaking they are the only threads i come to this forum for as they always kick off big style.

Can't argue with that.:greengrin

[Jack]

Why do people do this, is it just an excuse for a post. Unless you actually no some person that has died then fair doos but some people just do it for fun. Its like the whole Michael Jackson thing, who cares if he rests in peace, I could not care less as I dont know the guy personaly as most people on here dont. Its the same with other people I dont know. I think its quite patronising when people write it when they deep down actually dont care if they rest in peace or not. I just thought I would get this off my chest as it annoys me.

Cheers
CB

P.S. This is not a Michael Jackson debate btw.

Sometimes I think the same but having been the OP for David Carradine and Farah Fawcett threads recently, here or elsewhere, I’ll give you the reason I did it.

These people, and Michael Jackson, gave me huge entertainment when I was younger, never missed an episode of Kung Fu and the Farah Fawcett’s poster was a prize possession, a friend sent it over from the States before it was available here, so I was the talk of the washhoose. :greengrin

They made a impression on my life one way or another and I was saddened when I heard they had died. I don’t think I’d use 'RIP' but feel posting is a small way of recognising their achievements and the positive affect they had on me. I wouldn't post for someone I didn't like!

Probably wouldn’t feel the same at 23 though :bitchy:

[MSK]

Why do people do this, is it just an excuse for a post. Unless you actually no some person that has died then fair doos but some people just do it for fun. Its like the whole Michael Jackson thing, who cares if he rests in peace, I could not care less as I dont know the guy personaly as most people on here dont. Its the same with other people I dont know. I think its quite patronising when people write it when they deep down actually dont care if they rest in peace or not. I just thought I would get this off my chest as it annoys me.

Cheers
CB

P.S. This is not a Michael Jackson debate btw.I didnt know Davie Cooper, i didnt know Phil O'Donnell neither did i know Tommy Burns..i didnt know Erich Schaedler nor Bobby Flavell for that matter but i still, as did many on here pass on my respects on their passing or on the anniversary of their passing...

If you dont wish to pay respect then that is your choice as is others who do ...

[ancienthibby]

If it annoys you don't read the relevant thread. Simple.

I consider 'getting annoyed' to be a human right!!

And in this case especially about MJ's life-long effort and desire to be everything he was not - i.e. white and forever a child!!:grr::grr:

[Phil D. Rolls]

[/B]

I consider 'getting annoyed' to be a human right!!

And in this case especially about MJ's life-long effort and desire to be everything he was not - i.e. white and forever a child!!:grr::grr:

Yeah that bugs the hell out of me too.

[Brando7]

If it annoys you don't read the relevant thread. Simple.
:top marks

I didnt know Davie Cooper, i didnt know Phil O'Donnell neither did i know Tommy Burns..i didnt know Erich Schaedler nor Bobby Flavell for that matter but i still, as did many on here pass on my respects on their passing or on the anniversary of their passing...

If you dont wish to pay respect then that is your choice as is others who do ...

:top marks

[Sean1875]

I think that if someone feels they have been influenced or moved in anyway by the person that has died they have every right to pass on their condolences.

No-one is claiming to have known them or anything but when someone like Michael Jackson who has inspired generations of dancers, singers and musicians passes away i think someone has very right to say a simple 'R.I.P'

When my grandfather died a few years back and people said to me they were sorry for my loss etc. i found it rather comforting and it was through peoples support that helped me get through everything okay, and yes i know that the chances of MJs' family reading a Hibs forum are very slim indeed but i think its a credit to humanity now-a-days that people can take a few seconds to post a simple R.I.P as it shows that even if we dont know the person personally, we still show our wish to pass on our messages of sadness.

And as previous posters have said, if you have a problem with people posting these sort of things then why go on to a thread about someones death when it is blatantly obvious when this is whats going to be in it?

[Peevemor]

For me the RIP threads are a sort of formalised, written version of conversations youwould have with your mates, eg.

"Did you see (insert name here) died?"

"Aye, bloody sin", etc.

or

"Good riddance", etc.

[Wotherspiniesta]

Why do people do this, is it just an excuse for a post. Unless you actually no some person that has died then fair doos but some people just do it for fun. Its like the whole Michael Jackson thing, who cares if he rests in peace, I could not care less as I dont know the guy personaly as most people on here dont. Its the same with other people I dont know. I think its quite patronising when people write it when they deep down actually dont care if they rest in peace or not. I just thought I would get this off my chest as it annoys me.

Cheers
CB

P.S. This is not a Michael Jackson debate btw.

It's called sympathy.

Whats wrong with having sympathy for a human being after his/her passing? Patrionising? What's patrionising about showing compassion for a human being and their family?

If its not a MJ debate, why post it a day after the guy died and have an obvious pop at him in the process?

Does it really matter if we know the guy personally? People who have died in the past have been given R.I.P and nobody has bat an eyelid because its the human thing to do. Suddenly once its a contraversial figure it becomes a public debate to say whether to pay respects to himself or his family. If I don't particularily admire or respect the deceased person, I dont comment. Simple as that. And that IMO is how it should be.

Debate about his character all you want. People will differ in opinion, it's human nature. But thinking its "patrionsing" to pay respects to a human being,no matter if they knew them personally, is devoid of either class/feeling/compassion or is intentionally doing it to wind people up.

[MSK]

I think that if someone feels they have been influenced or moved in anyway by the person that has died they have every right to pass on their condolences.

No-one is claiming to have known them or anything but when someone like Michael Jackson who has inspired generations of dancers, singers and musicians passes away i think someone has very right to say a simple 'R.I.P'

When my grandfather died a few years back and people said to me they were sorry for my loss etc. i found it rather comforting and it was through peoples support that helped me get through everything okay, and yes i know that the chances of MJs' family reading a Hibs forum are very slim indeed but i think its a credit to humanity now-a-days that people can take a few seconds to post a simple R.I.P as it shows that even if we dont know the person personally, we still show our wish to pass on our messages of sadness.

And as previous posters have said, if you have a problem with people posting these sort of things then why go on to a thread about someones death when it is blatantly obvious when this is whats going to be in it?Excellent post Sean..

People on here throughout the years have posted about the loss of a loved one, their choice as it is a means of getting rid of emotions, when folk add their condolances that too is a comfort to the person & they feel a comfort when they or their friends or relatives read the threads or posts ..

Same goes for marriage or birth announcements, someone posts something about a new child born or they are getting married then they appreciate the respect/wishes that are posted on here, a hibs site ..a hibs family, folk feel embraced & why not ...35,000 hibs fans were dancing/singing & embracing each other a couple of years ago when we won the league cup ...looking at this place recently you wouldnae think it eh ...:greengrin

Ps...ive been overwhelmed by the number of births/deaths & marriages on here im thinking of proposing to the rest of the Admin team about creating another forum ...perhaps called the chapel....:rolleyes:

[Phil D. Rolls]

Excellent post Sean..

People on here throughout the years have posted about the loss of a loved one, their choice as it is a means of getting rid of emotions, when folk add their condolances that too is a comfort to the person & they feel a comfort when they or their friends or relatives read the threads or posts ..

Same goes for marriage or birth announcements, someone posts something about a new child born or they are getting married then they appreciate the respect/wishes that are posted on here, a hibs site ..a hibs family, folk feel embraced & why not ...35,000 hibs fans were dancing/singing & embracing each other a couple of years ago when we won the league cup ...looking at this place recently you wouldnae think it eh ...:greengrin

Ps...ive been overwhelmed by the number of births/deaths & marriages on here im thinking of proposing to the rest of the Admin team about creating another forum ...perhaps called the chapel....:rolleyes:

Can't say I would be happy with the inference that all the posters on here are Christian. :greengrin

[Jonnyboy]

Why do people do this, is it just an excuse for a post. Unless you actually no some person that has died then fair doos but some people just do it for fun. Its like the whole Michael Jackson thing, who cares if he rests in peace, I could not care less as I dont know the guy personaly as most people on here dont. Its the same with other people I dont know. I think its quite patronising when people write it when they deep down actually dont care if they rest in peace or not. I just thought I would get this off my chest as it annoys me.

Cheers
CB

P.S. This is not a Michael Jackson debate btw.

My take on it is that it's done out of respect for the deceased. An analogy might be that you attend the funeral of a friend or colleagues partner. You probably didn't know the person but attended out of respect.

[CB_NO3]

I totally agree with what everyone is saying and if someone has influenced you in life or if someone was close to you then you have every right to say Rest in Peace or whatever, but the point am trying to make is alot of people only take notice in someone who they dont really care about till they die. Its like the whole Tommy Burns, Phil O' donnell deaths, tragic obviously, but the thousands of people that post RIP on messageboards, do they actually deep down care if they rest in peace or not because lets face it, it doesn't make a bit difference to your life if the rest in peace or not, and you never even knew them or does it just make you feel better about yourself that you have said it.

[Hiber-nation]

I totally agree with what everyone is saying and if someone has influenced you in life or if someone was close to you then you have every right to say Rest in Peace or whatever, but the point am trying to make is alot of people only take notice in someone who they dont really care about till they die. Its like the whole Tommy Burns, Phil O' donnell deaths, tragic obviously, but the thousands of people that post RIP on messageboards, do they actually deep down care if they rest in peace or not because lets face it, it doesn't make a bit difference to your life if the rest in peace or not, and you never even knew them or does it just make you feel better about yourself that you have said it.

So its wrong to feel sad about someone famous you've never met who has died? Should we not have the choice if we admired the person?

[MSK]

Can't say I would be happy with the inference that all the posters on here are Christian. :greengrin:grr:..perhaps a poll then...:greengrin

[Phil D. Rolls]

:grr:..perhaps a poll then...:greengrin

Aw right, so we are being told what to do by immigrants now? It's PC gone bloody mad.:greengrin

[Sylar]

Why do people do this, is it just an excuse for a post. Unless you actually no some person that has died then fair doos but some people just do it for fun. Its like the whole Michael Jackson thing, who cares if he rests in peace, I could not care less as I dont know the guy personaly as most people on here dont. Its the same with other people I dont know. I think its quite patronising when people write it when they deep down actually dont care if they rest in peace or not. I just thought I would get this off my chest as it annoys me.

Cheers
CB

P.S. This is not a Michael Jackson debate btw.

An interesting question:

When the Twin Towers fell in New York, I was in Manhattan - a day I'll never forget. We were in close enough proximity to watch the evil of that day unfold and the sights, sounds and smells will forever be etched in my mind.

I didn't know any of the people killed that day, nor do I have any real connection to the event, other than my geographic location, yet every anniversary, I will take the time to pause for the 4 minutes, I will take the time to post a rememberance thread on here, out of respect to those who were unfortunate enough to lose their lives.

Most people who watched that event, as it happened live, on TV, will probably to this day still remember their thoughts. Looking at thousands of people being murdered before their very eyes. There was an unconditional remembrance thread on most forums in the days following. Yet, nobody knew the first thing about any of those killed in the Towers. There were heroes, in the firemen and NYPD officers, but I'll bet there were also villains - people who had done wrong in their lives, possibly in a similar vein to the acts alleged of Michael Jackson, possibly worse. Yet none of them deserved what happened to them that day, and out of respect, the world still remembers them.

I don't necessarily feel every celebrity is "deserving" of an RIP thread, but my point with the 9/11 reference, is that it's personal. I feel personally attached to the events of that day, although I realize I have no real connection. Someone who grew up, say, listening to MJ's music, may feel a connection, as he provided music which entertains/comforts and continues to do so (I only use MJ as a recent reference). If someone has been exposed to that person in a positive way, then they may well feel the need to respect the work and life of that person, and these "RIP" threads, are a method to pass on sympathy, gratitude and an expression.

I don't have a problem with them, when they are maintained within a "classy" limit, but the public outcry and sorrow which follows many of the larger celebs, as if they were a member of said grievers family, is way OTT!

[Steve-O]

I totally agree with what everyone is saying and if someone has influenced you in life or if someone was close to you then you have every right to say Rest in Peace or whatever, but the point am trying to make is alot of people only take notice in someone who they dont really care about till they die. Its like the whole Tommy Burns, Phil O' donnell deaths, tragic obviously, but the thousands of people that post RIP on messageboards, do they actually deep down care if they rest in peace or not because lets face it, it doesn't make a bit difference to your life if the rest in peace or not, and you never even knew them or does it just make you feel better about yourself that you have said it.

I kind of agree that a basic 'RIP' post on every single thread about someone dying seems pointless to me.

I defended Jackson on that thread that got deleted but I explained why I actually ended up feeling sad about it all (a rare event for me btw!) so...? I still didn't actually say 'RIP' though as that statement seems to have become a bit devalued by overuse on such threads.

[hibiedude]

I didnt know Davie Cooper, i didnt know Phil O'Donnell neither did i know Tommy Burns..i didnt know Erich Schaedler nor Bobby Flavell for that matter but i still, as did many on here pass on my respects on their passing or on the anniversary of their passing...

If you dont wish to pay respect then that is your choice as is others who do ...

Good point and remember you don't have to know some one personally to show respect but some on this site will always find ways to argue because that's there way.

[Brizo]

I don't have a problem with them, when they are maintained within a "classy" limit, but the public outcry and sorrow which follows many of the larger celebs, as if they were a member of said grievers family, is way OTT!

:agree:

If people wish to pay their respects to someone theyve admired or respected fair enough. When it goes beyond that to the dianaesque public mourning where people are acting distraught about someone they didnt know I find that bizarre to say the least.

The worldwide outbreak of bad taste jokes whenever a major celebrity dies is imo probably a reaction to the media fuelled cult of celebrity mourning which accompanies such deaths.

[PeeJay]

Why do people do this, is it just an excuse for a post. Unless you actually no some person that has died then fair doos but some people just do it for fun. Its like the whole Michael Jackson thing, who cares if he rests in peace, I could not care less as I dont know the guy personaly as most people on here dont. Its the same with other people I dont know. I think its quite patronising when people write it when they deep down actually dont care if they rest in peace or not. I just thought I would get this off my chest as it annoys me.

Cheers
CB

P.S. This is not a Michael Jackson debate btw.

Surely this just begs the question: How do YOU know what most people feel when you don't know most people yourself? Ever consider that your annoyance is based on a patronising attitude itself :hmmm:?

[CB_NO3]

Surely this just begs the question: How do YOU know what most people feel when you don't know most people yourself? Ever consider that your annoyance is based on a patronising attitude itself :hmmm:?

Your right in what you say, how am I meant to know what peoples feelings are, but ill give an example, the death of Tommy Burns which was tragic obviously and I dont wish death on anyone but when thousands of people post RIP just for the sake of it, it annoys me. Ill guarentee thousands of people that posted it never ever knew Tommy Burns or had the intention of meeting Tommy Burns and vice versa and alot of people would not have cared about Tommy Burns in general or how he lived his life etc, but because he died and it was broadcasted in the media people took notice and thought ill post RIP when deep down they probably dont really care. So why do they do this is it just an excuse for a post or is it just the correct thing to do. Am probably making a big deal out of nothing here but I was just curious on why people do it.

[Andy74]

:agree:

If people wish to pay their respects to someone theyve admired or respected fair enough. When it goes beyond that to the dianaesque public mourning where people are acting distraught about someone they didnt know I find that bizarre to say the least.

The worldwide outbreak of bad taste jokes whenever a major celebrity dies is imo probably a reaction to the media fuelled cult of celebrity mourning which accompanies such deaths.

Agreed.

And I think the banning of such jokes here is just daft. This is a footy forum, if we were all down the pub well anything goes and that sort of gallows humour is just part of life and death.

To say that people would have been shocked by the news and the jokes would have makde things worse is just insane - nobody knew him well enough to be upset!

In terms of Jackson having respect for his music or even as a person, god forbid, is one thing, but grieving is quite another.

[blackpoolhibs]

I grieved for kahoonas.

[ancient hibee]

The Daily Mail or its Sunday version(i forget which)had a piece in its editorial calling the fuss over Michael Jackson ridiculous-this of course was after 15 pages of comment on the subject.

[Sir David Gray]

Why do people do this, is it just an excuse for a post. Unless you actually no some person that has died then fair doos but some people just do it for fun. Its like the whole Michael Jackson thing, who cares if he rests in peace, I could not care less as I dont know the guy personaly as most people on here dont. Its the same with other people I dont know. I think its quite patronising when people write it when they deep down actually dont care if they rest in peace or not. I just thought I would get this off my chest as it annoys me.

Cheers
CB

P.S. This is not a Michael Jackson debate btw.

I'm going to buck the trend here and agree with you to an extent.

RIP messages are not really my cup of tea either, although if people feel they want to do it then that's fine, I respect that.

I think if someone famous dies and you express your shock and/or sadness at their death that is slightly different, as I did exactly that on the second Michael Jackson thread. When I heard the news that he had died on Thursday night, I was shocked for a bit and I was little bit saddened, but I can't really say that his passing affected me too much, nor would it affect me if anyone else died and I didn't know them personally.

I think simply writing "RIP" on a message, as a lot of people do (not just on here), is a bit of an empty statement. I personally don't think it means an awful lot but it doesn't bother me if people choose to do it.

I have to say though that I really do find the idea of grieving over the death of someone famous or being in a state of mourning, unless of course you knew them, quite sad.

PS-Michael Jackson R.I.P.

:wink:

[Phil D. Rolls]

Agreed.

And I think the banning of such jokes here is just daft. This is a footy forum, if we were all down the pub well anything goes and that sort of gallows humour is just part of life and death.

To say that people would have been shocked by the news and the jokes would have makde things worse is just insane - nobody knew him well enough to be upset!

In terms of Jackson having respect for his music or even as a person, god forbid, is one thing, but grieving is quite another.

Does anything go though? I think there are limits to what should be discussed in public. For me, racism and cruelty aren't things which would be acceptable in the pub, for others homosexuality and foreigners wouldn't be appropriate. I think there's times that we have to think about other people's feelings.

Imagine if somebody started telling jokes about people with disabilities, I think most people would say that it was out of order. IMO the majority of people would be upset if they told a joke which hurt someone in the vicinities feelings.

Kind of like that time I had a jew, a muslim and a Hindu in the back of my cab.
















I thought "what a brilliant example of racial integration".
(Didn't get the Perrier that year though).:boo hoo:

[Tomsk]

Agreed.

And I think the banning of such jokes here is just daft. This is a footy forum, if we were all down the pub well anything goes and that sort of gallows humour is just part of life and death.

To say that people would have been shocked by the news and the jokes would have makde things worse is just insane - nobody knew him well enough to be upset!

In terms of Jackson having respect for his music or even as a person, god forbid, is one thing, but grieving is quite another.

Succinctly put.

Although I find most instances absurd I wouldn't deny any person's right/need to grieve about Michael Jackson. And I would have thought there must be many mediums including websites where they can express that grief if they chose. Why people come on to Hibs Net to grieve about Michael Jackson beats the crap out of me. What did they expect?

I actually think Hibs Net is a perfectly acceptable medium for sick jokes about Michael Jackson. We are not witnessing the death of someone like Nelson Mandela or The Queen. We are witnessing the death of a person whose conduct was extremely dubious to say the least -- and some!. And I think people who share that view about Michael Jackson should have a right to express it even if it is through the medium of sick jokes.

[MSK]

Succinctly put.

Although I find most instances absurd I wouldn't deny any person's right/need to grieve about Michael Jackson. And I would have thought there must be many mediums including websites where they can express that grief if they chose. Why people come on to Hibs Net to grieve about Michael Jackson beats the crap out of me. What did they expect?

I actually think Hibs Net is a perfectly acceptable medium for sick jokes about Michael Jackson. We are not witnessing the death of someone like Nelson Mandela or The Queen. We are witnessing the death of a person whose conduct was extremely dubious to say the least -- and some!. And I think people who share that view about Michael Jackson should have a right to express it even if it is through the medium of sick jokes.I still dont see the harm in paying respects to someone, the bit in bold makes it sound like folk just register for that purpose, many "iconic" figures from the music world have passed in recent years & folk have posted their R.I.P stuff without anything near the hysteria this has caused..

With regard to the sick jokes, a few of the Admin team are parents & i for one dont find them remotely funny & neither would my Daughters, im also sure a fair chunk of the regular users on hibs.net would feel the same way & with regard to the amount of reported posts we recieved or (would have) should the "jokes" have been allowed to stand then im sure we were correct in our decision to ban them ..

Andy 74 also mentions this is a footy forum.....obviously we have moved on a fair bit & now have many different forums...all however a test to the site rules & a test which is becoming all the more difficult to manage..i do though at times wish we were just a "footy forum" ....

[Tomsk]

I still dont see the harm in paying respects to someone, the bit in bold makes it sound like folk just register for that purpose, many "iconic" figures from the music world have passed in recent years & folk have posted their R.I.P stuff without anything near the hysteria this has caused..

With regard to the sick jokes, a few of the Admin team are parents & i for one dont find them remotely funny & neither would my Daughters, im also sure a fair chunk of the regular users on hibs.net would feel the same way & with regard to the amount of reported posts we recieved or (would have) should the "jokes" have been allowed to stand then im sure we were correct in our decision to ban them ..

Andy 74 also mentions this is a footy forum.....obviously we have moved on a fair bit & now have many different forums...all however a test to the site rules & a test which is becoming all the more difficult to manage..i do though at times wish we were just a "footy forum" ....


I couldn't be an administrator. I would let anything go ... and it would be a right old rammy. :wink:

[MSK]

I couldn't be an administrator. I would let anything go ... and it would be a right old rammy. :wink:Im sure there would be quite a few on here who would too...:greengrin..

[Woody1985]

Andy 74 also mentions this is a footy forum.....obviously we have moved on a fair bit & now have many different forums...all however a test to the site rules & a test which is becoming all the more difficult to manage..i do though at times wish we were just a "footy forum" ....

Could you not simply make this part of the PM forums (please don't as I'm not a PM!) and get your wish?

------------
On another note, the complete opposite of the oringal post:

Good luck Steven Fletcher

Is this thread in the same manner as a RIP thread. Many of the people who support Hibs and Fletcher will never have met him but feel they have a connection with him and will post GL.

What's the difference to a music / racing / celebrity fan posting a simple RIP or my heart goes out to family.

I'm sure the people who wish SF good luck will mean it even if they've never met him just as people who post RIP will mean it.

Thoughts :devil:

[MSK]

Could you not simply make this part of the PM forums (please don't as I'm not a PM!) and get your wish?

The PM forum is meant to be a place of sanctuary ..a place where folks can get away from all this & of course the utter carnage that can be the main forum...:greengrin

[Phil D. Rolls]

Succinctly put.

Although I find most instances absurd I wouldn't deny any person's right/need to grieve about Michael Jackson. And I would have thought there must be many mediums including websites where they can express that grief if they chose. Why people come on to Hibs Net to grieve about Michael Jackson beats the crap out of me. What did they expect?

I actually think Hibs Net is a perfectly acceptable medium for sick jokes about Michael Jackson. We are not witnessing the death of someone like Nelson Mandela or The Queen. We are witnessing the death of a person whose conduct was extremely dubious to say the least -- and some!. And I think people who share that view about Michael Jackson should have a right to express it even if it is through the medium of sick jokes.

No problem with sick jokes, but when you're actually watching the news unfold, as we were that night, it just didn't seem very appropriate.

There was no reason people couldn't have just lept schtum, I think maybe nerves or something got the better of them, and they acted inappropriately for the times (IMO).

Someone mentioned gallows humour, and we all know it goes on in jobs where people have to see death regularly. I'll bet that in every one of those jobs though, someone making a joke when someone is dying - or has just died, would be seen as a bit of a nut job.

Surely the fact that other people asked for the jokes to stop at that point, is enough for any right thinking, mature, balanced person to take others views on board. Instead, there was a lot of yap from (IMO) people who clearly hadn't grasped the situation.

There is a time and place for everything. As far as I can see, people are losing all respect for death with: their road side shrines, comical funeral wreaths, services where you aren't supposed to cry etc. What is so bad about feeling sombre and sad at a time like that?

[Wotherspiniesta]

Why do people do this, is it just an excuse for a post. Unless you actually no some person that has died then fair doos but some people just do it for fun. Its like the whole Michael Jackson thing, who cares if he rests in peace, I could not care less as I dont know the guy personaly as most people on here dont. Its the same with other people I dont know. I think its quite patronising when people write it when they deep down actually dont care if they rest in peace or not. I just thought I would get this off my chest as it annoys me.

Cheers
CB

P.S. This is not a Michael Jackson debate btw.

R.I.P Bobby Robson

[lyonhibs]

R.I.P Bobby Robson

:agree: :agree:

One of the rare occassions when "R.I.P threads" are completely justified. Simply, any and every decent person should find it very easy to wish this legend of the game and complete gentleman RIP.

[HibsMax]

:agree: :agree:

One of the rare occassions when "R.I.P threads" are completely justified. Simply, any and every decent person should find it very easy to wish this legend of the game and complete gentleman RIP.

Firstly, RIP, Bobby Robson.

Secondly, I think pretty much any and all RIP threads are justified (I'm sure there are exceptions). I don't see the need to get upset over someone else's grief. If someone wishes to express their condolences, let's let them do that. There's no need to interfere.

$0.02

[fergal7]

Just a wee aside... Sir Bobby was not too enamoured with us "Jocks" I will have ye know..............

[s.a.m]

Personally, I'm selective about the condolence threads that I post on. However, I can see why people do it. As Peevemor (I think?) said, we're more or less copying the kind of conversations that we woulld have with our friends / strangers in the pub.

I'm not getting the idea that we cannot be saddened by the passing of someone who wasn't personally known to us. I am regularly saddened by stories of strangers I read or hear about; not ripped apart in the way that I have been and will be again by the death of a loved one or friend or colleague, but sad nevertheless. And I feel this kind of sadness for the deaths of Phil O'Donnell and Paul McGrillen - young men whose lives have been cruelly stopped, and whose families have endured hideous suffering as a result. In the case of footballers, in particular, there is a relevance to this board because we are part of the same community.

While the mawkish and extreme public mourning that goes on in the case of high profile celebs troubles me hugely, I can accept that there is a place on messageboards such as these for people to want to share with others their shock and sorrow that someone whose life has touched their own has died.

[Dashing Bob S]

On a football fans board, I'd find it appropriate to remember somebody who gave service to the game in my tenure as a supporter, and as such would post about Bobby Robson and Paul McGrillen.

I wouldn't come on and post about a 'general' RIP though.

[lapsedhibee]

On a football fans board, I'd find it appropriate to remember somebody who gave service to the game in my tenure as a supporter, and as such would post about Bobby Robson and Paul McGrillen.

I wouldn't come on and post about a 'general' RIP though.
Which category does Rinus Michels (http://static.rnw.nl/migratie/www.radionetherlands.nl/currentaffairs/region/netherlands/ned050303-redirected) come into then? :confused:

[joe breezy]

Just a wee aside... Sir Bobby was not too enamoured with us "Jocks" I will have ye know..............

Good for him. So many Scottish people think it's alright to be vitriolic towards England but a teaspoonful back and they get all offended.

On the RIP thing, I don't use the expression, my dad told me it's a Catholic expression (but he's from Glasgow where the world is divided in two), which seems weird as surely Catholics think people live on, either burning in hell forever and ever or there in some strange place called heaven where everyone is ecstactically happy both sound crap to me).

But, I would post a respectful comment on someone who inspired or entertained me and that isn't just people I know personally.
Find it quite odd that anyone can take offence at such a thing but it takes all sorts.