2 charged with murder of Martyn Barclay

[Hanny]

Link (http://edinburghnews.scotsman.com/breaking-edinburgh-news/Two-charged-in-connection-with.5340626.jp)


POLICE have charged two people with offences connected to the murder of Martyn Barclay.
A 31-year-old woman and a 60-year-old woman were arrested and charged today.

Mr Barclay, a 26-year-old father-of-one, died after being shot in the head in Hazlewood Grove, Edinburgh on Saturday, 17 January this year.

It is expected the two women will appear at Edinburgh Sheriff Court on Monday, 8 June.

[fergal7]

Thats bizzare............ I thought women dont commit murder.

[CropleyWasGod]

Purely conjecture, I know, but his partner is 31.

[Toaods]

Purely conjecture, I know, but his partner is 31.

Purely noseyness :fibber:, but is by coincidence a possibility her mother is aged 60........... :tumble:

[vein]

No need to delete.....

http://www.thesun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/news/2466803/Gun-death-girl-charged-by-cops.html

[CropleyWasGod]

No need to delete.....

http://www.thesun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/news/2466803/Gun-death-girl-charged-by-cops.html

Ach..... guessed as much.

Such a waste.

[RyeSloan]

Ach..... guessed as much.

Such a waste.

So true.

Anyone who know's anyone will know that the Barclays are from 'tragic' and that this was always going to be about a family or close relation.

A story that makes you truely despair about the human race but yet reminds you of how and why you love your family and close friends and why although such things like this happen that you strive to make a better life for those that mean the most to you.

[Phil D. Rolls]

Hate to be a bore, but shouldn't we wait until the trial until we make judgements? I know it spoils the fun, but in the event of something coming out that we didn't know about, we'll feel a lot better that we didn't make up our mind without the facts.

Seems like an interesting story though. You can only speculate as to what it's about, I'm sure the girl's defence might point to reasons why she was provoked. On the other hand, his side will portray him as an innocent victim. We'll just have to wait and see.

[CropleyWasGod]

Hate to be a bore, but shouldn't we wait until the trial until we make judgements? I know it spoils the fun, but in the event of something coming out that we didn't know about, we'll feel a lot better that we didn't make up our mind without the facts.

Seems like an interesting story though. You can only speculate as to what it's about, I'm sure the girl's defence might point to reasons why she was provoked. On the other hand, his side will portray him as an innocent victim. We'll just have to wait and see.

You're absolutely right, FR, which is why i expected the thread to be deleted. My last comment was more about the sadness I feel that a family, and probably more than one, has been blasted apart by whatever happened.

[Phil D. Rolls]

You're absolutely right, FR, which is why i expected the thread to be deleted. My last comment was more about the sadness I feel that a family, and probably more than one, has been blasted apart by whatever happened.

Yes, that is tragic, and it is something that they will have to live with all their lives. :agree:

[BigKev]

29 Year old male charged as well - see here (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/edinburgh_and_east/8087179.stm)

The male arrested is likely to be another family member :wink: who was a bit of a bam but seemed to have calmed down a fair bit in the last few years.

Maybe cos I never saw him as much though :rolleyes:

[ancient hibee]

Doesn't say that they've been charged with murder but with offences connected to it-could be for example hiding the gun.

[Phil D. Rolls]

29 Year old male charged as well - see here (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/edinburgh_and_east/8087179.stm)

The male arrested is likely to be another family member :wink: who was a bit of a bam but seemed to have calmed down a fair bit in the last few years.

Maybe cos I never saw him as much though :rolleyes:

Are you just speculating, or is it something you've heard? There's a lot of 29 year old men in Edinburgh.

It's a bit bizarre the papers can't just give us the name of the accused, as we'll know on Monday when he's in court.


Police have charged a 29-year-old man almost six months after the death of a young Edinburgh father. - BBC

Have the Beeb not got this wrong? I always thought it was the PF who charged people, in response to a police complaint.

[MSK]

29 Year old male charged as well - see here (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/edinburgh_and_east/8087179.stm)

The male arrested is likely to be another family member :wink: who was a bit of a bam but seemed to have calmed down a fair bit in the last few years.

Maybe cos I never saw him as much though :rolleyes:I assume that since you "likely" know the male is a family member.. the Police are "likely" to know aswell ..?

[Hanny]

Have the Beeb not got this wrong? I always thought it was the PF who charged people, in response to a police complaint.

The police charge people with criminal offences.

The PF prosecute people who are charged with criminal offences, providing there is sufficient evidence and it is in the public interest.

[BigKev]

I assume that since you "likely" know the male is a family member.. the Police are "likely" to know aswell ..?

:agree:

Can't name names as no-one is exactly sure what they're all charged with.

[Toaods]

not the first time the 'alleged' perpetrator was a close link.

I know nothing about any of them but perhaps the girls fragile state was the guilt or a build up of stress if involved, as it so often is in such circumstances.

[Phil D. Rolls]

not the first time the 'alleged' perpetrator was a close link.

I know nothing about any of them but perhaps the girls fragile state was the guilt or a build up of stress if involved, as it so often is in such circumstances.

Or cocaine induced paranoia, the list of possibilities is a long one, and we can't possibly know. No doubt there's more information to come out. If the perpetrator is someone so close to the victim, you have to wonder how big a cover up has been involved.

[Woody1985]

Are you just speculating, or is it something you've heard? There's a lot of 29 year old men in Edinburgh.

It's a bit bizarre the papers can't just give us the name of the accused, as we'll know on Monday when he's in court.



Have the Beeb not got this wrong? I always thought it was the PF who charged people, in response to a police complaint.

I don't think the papers should be allowed to print names unless someone is convicted. Peoples lives are ruined by newspapers printing stories that are disproved but mud sticks. Sometimes they even put pictures in of the wrong people against names FFS.

[Phil D. Rolls]

I don't think the papers should be allowed to print names unless someone is convicted. Peoples lives are ruined by newspapers printing stories that are disproved but mud sticks. Sometimes they even put pictures in of the wrong people against names FFS.

I agree with you. In cases like rape, for example, a false accusation will ruin a man's life, yet the accuser gets to remain anonymous.

I suppose the argument is that if we all know the name of the person accused, we might have some evidence to contribute.

What I was trying to highlight was the inconsistency, in that we are told the name of the accused, yet the papers don't name him in advance. I wonder what the logic of that is, maybe the charges are dropped before the trial.

[Hanny]

Another 2 people charged, 5 to appear at court on Monday (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/edinburgh_and_east/8088244.stm)

[Woody1985]

I agree with you. In cases like rape, for example, a false accusation will ruin a man's life, yet the accuser gets to remain anonymous.

I suppose the argument is that if we all know the name of the person accused, we might have some evidence to contribute.

What I was trying to highlight was the inconsistency, in that we are told the name of the accused, yet the papers don't name him in advance. I wonder what the logic of that is, maybe the charges are dropped before the trial.

That's a very good point. It may trigger someones memory if they were acting suspiciously around the time of any event. I suppose it's hard to know where to draw the line.

[Coco Bryce]

29 Year old male charged as well - see here (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/edinburgh_and_east/8087179.stm)

The male arrested is likely to be another family member :wink: who was a bit of a bam but seemed to have calmed down a fair bit in the last few years.

Maybe cos I never saw him as much though :rolleyes:

Aye really seems to have calmed down right enough :devil:

[Chuckie]

Love thy fellow man and all that..

Fair dos..

To me this is ****bags killing ****bags..

Who cares, bar their families ?

God rest his twisted soul and may justice be done..

[hibiedude]

Hate to be a bore, but shouldn't we wait until the trial until we make judgements? I know it spoils the fun, but in the event of something coming out that we didn't know about, we'll feel a lot better that we didn't make up our mind without the facts.

Seems like an interesting story though. You can only speculate as to what it's about, I'm sure the girl's defence might point to reasons why she was provoked. On the other hand, his side will portray him as an innocent victim. We'll just have to wait and see.

I was once related to the Igoe family and trust me this has come as a shock, I know both Maragret and Caroline and they are not BAD people as some mite have you think. but the update is 3 more people are helping police with there inquires.

[CropleyWasGod]

:
Love thy fellow man and all that..

Fair dos..

To me this is ****bags killing ****bags..

Who cares, bar their families ?

God rest his twisted soul and may justice be done..

Loving the irony there. :wink:

[hibiedude]

Love thy fellow man and all that..

Fair dos..

To me this is ****bags killing ****bags..

Who cares, bar their families ?

God rest his twisted soul and may justice be done..

Lets hope you never get Dury service, do you know any of those people involved or know there background. :confused:

[CropleyWasGod]

Lets hope you never get Dury service, do you know any of those people involved or know there background. :confused:

Would he then be a Blockhead? :greengrin

and we're off again.....

[hibiedude]

Would he then be a Blockhead? :greengrin

and we're off again.....

That's what I get for posting using ipod touch :greengrin

The JURY will be out on this one

[Phil D. Rolls]

Lets hope you never get Dury service, do you know any of those people involved or know there background. :confused:

Depends...I'd be quite happy to sit on a trial if there was lots of sex and drugs and rock n roll. Definitely a case for getting on the new boots n panties.

Mind you, you'd have to listen closely, cos I'm sure that you find out in court that there ain't half some clever *******s.

[hibiedude]

Depends...I'd be quite happy to sit on a trial if there was lots of sex and drugs and rock n roll. Definitely a case for getting on the new boots n panties.

Mind you, you'd have to listen closely, cos I'm sure that you find out in court that there ain't half some clever *******s.

I got a phone call at the back off 2 o'clock today saying the charges aginst Margaret and Caroline are that they withheld vital information about the murder off Martyn Barclay (they knew who done it but wouldn't grass them) but if it's proved they knew who the murderer was and protected them and failed to inform the police they are looking at 4-5 years.

[CropleyWasGod]

Depends...I'd be quite happy to sit on a trial if there was lots of sex and drugs and rock n roll. Definitely a case for getting on the new boots n panties.

Mind you, you'd have to listen closely, cos I'm sure that you find out in court that there ain't half some clever *******s.

As I said earlier, FR, What a Waste. :greengrin

[Phil D. Rolls]

As I said earlier, FR, What a Waste. :greengrin

A lot of these things go over my head, but I'm not a *****in thickie, I come from Billericay, and I'm doing rather well.:dummytit:

[Mike777]

i heard it was her brother.

[fergal7]

The cops have made quick arrests so thats got to be reasons to be cheerful.

[CropleyWasGod]

i heard it was her brother.

Haven't heard that one.... what album was it on?

[CropleyWasGod]

i heard it was her brother.

....however, Carolyn Igoe's brother has been charged with murder...... so you'll go far, Sherlock :wink:

[Chez]

....however, Carolyn Igoe's brother has been charged with murder...... so you'll go far, Sherlock :wink:

According to our local news - yip

http://edinburghnews.scotsman.com/topstories/Girlfriend-accused-in-gun-death.5345338.jp