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hibiedude
14-03-2009, 05:40 AM
Like him or hate him Jeremy Clarkson column in today's sun newspaper is interesting reading.

MOST right-thinking people will have been upset when they learned that a small group of Muslims in Luton had welcomed the Anglian Regiment home from Iraq with banners saying “baby butchers”.

But as we live in a free country, there’s not a damn thing we can do to stop this sort of nonsense happening again.

Shooting the protesters in the face, though tempting, is a no-no. Talking to them is as pointless as talking to a lawnmower.

And if you try to ban them, using the law, you’re going to find your solicitor just smiles the smile of a man whose hands are tied.

People are allowed to protest. The end.

Which is why, once again, I find myself daydreaming about the idea of creating a Minister of Common Sense. Someone who could step in and act on our behalf when the law can’t help.

Think about it. He’d look at those soldiers coming home from the heat and dust of Iraq. And he’d realise that after all the hardship and danger they’d endured, calling them baby butchers is at the very least bad manners.

So the protesters would be arrested, charged with being impolite and sentenced to spend the rest of time in, oh I don’t know, Melton Mowbray.

There are countless times every week, in fact, where a Minister of Common Sense could be used. Take the example this week of the policeman who claims racial discrimination after fellow officers laughed at his beard.

Legally, he may have a point. As a Muslim he is duty bound to have face hair and people should respect his efforts to grow some. No matter how stupid the end result may look.

But there is no way in hell that he should get a lump of taxpayers’ money because he got teased. The Minister of Common Sense would realise that and order the case to be dismissed

Then on Thursday we heard about the airline pilot — a Gulf War hero — who allowed a passenger into the cockpit during a flight.

Technically, this breaches anti-terrorism laws and he should be sacked.

But a Minister of Common Sense would realise that the man in question was Robbie Savage, a footballer for Blackburn Rovers, and therefore not a terrorist. And order the pilot to be reinstated.

There’s more. Earlier this week we heard about a sacked paper boy who is claiming £8,000 for “injury to his feelings”.

Two choices. The case goes to court at vast expense. Or the Minister of Common Sense steps in and, at a cost of nothing at all, says: “Oh don’t be daft.”

Then we move to this week’s inquiry into Press freedom.

Currently, the law that allows journalists to pry into the private life of someone they suspect is selling nuclear secrets to the Iranians also allows a man from the Daily Mirror to ferret about in my garage. And that’s obviously ridiculous.

But instead of trying to rewrite the rule book or set up a new body to oversee complaints, why not simply use the Minister of Common Sense?

Should a journalist be allowed to say Kate McCann murdered her child, when there isn’t a shred of evidence?

Should a journalist be allowed to go through Robert Mugabe’s hard drive?

It goes on. Should Channel 4 be allowed to merge with the BBC?


Should RBS shareholders be encouraged to help themselves to shrubs from Fred Goodwin’s flower beds?

Should Peter Mandelspoon be allowed to spend £2,000 a year — of our money — on flowers? No.

Should school children be allowed to play conkers? Yes.

You don’t need committees and meetings and eleventy-four million pounds every time there’s a dispute. You just need a bloke with a bit of nous.


I do not agree with everything Clarkson says but he does have some valid points.

hibsbollah
14-03-2009, 08:40 AM
Who defines 'common sense'?

Common sense to me would be increasing tax on the rich to pay for a decent transport system, but I doubt erses like jeremy clarkson would approve.

The_Todd
14-03-2009, 08:49 AM
Clarkson should never be held up as an example of common sense thinking.

Hiber-nation
14-03-2009, 09:00 AM
Clarkson should never be held up as an example of common sense thinking.

Exactly, any Minister with a grain of common sense would hopefully gag the ignorant twat.

Hibbyradge
14-03-2009, 09:03 AM
The first 4 words of that diatribe is all you really need to read.

I protested against the Falklands war and many millions opposed the invasion of Iraq and still do.

Should we all be shot in the face?

One of the first jobs any Minister for Common Sense should do is stop that jumped up taxi-driver inflicting his populist, right wing views on the rest of us.

I mean no offence to taxi-drivers (on this occasion :greengrin ).

hibiedude
14-03-2009, 09:03 AM
As said you eighter Like or hate him :greengrin

The_Todd
14-03-2009, 09:08 AM
As said you eighter Like or hate him :greengrin


Like him or hate him, we all seem to disagree with him :greengrin

matty_f
14-03-2009, 09:09 AM
In Clarkson's defence, I did laugh at the Robbie Savage bit.

The_Todd
14-03-2009, 09:15 AM
In Clarkson's defence, I did laugh at the Robbie Savage bit.


I like how he seems to think he should be let away with a sackable offence just because of who he is.

Common sense indeed.

LiverpoolHibs
14-03-2009, 09:16 AM
He clearly doesn't do his research very well if he thinks Savage still plays for Blackburn. :wink:

hibiedude
14-03-2009, 09:21 AM
I lked the bit about the sacked paper boy who is claiming £8,000 for “injury to his feelings”.

and the example this week of the policeman who claims racial discrimination after fellow officers laughed at his beard

what next; laughting at ugly/fat people .

Danderhall Hibs
14-03-2009, 09:37 AM
Who defines 'common sense'?


The Common Sense Minister would.

Gee whizz that's just common sense!

Hiber-nation
14-03-2009, 10:13 AM
I lked the bit about the sacked paper boy who is claiming £8,000 for “injury to his feelings”.

and the example this week of the policeman who claims racial discrimination after fellow officers laughed at his beard

what next; laughting at ugly/fat people .

Maybe Clarkson's idea isn't so bad - if this imaginary Minister was appointed maybe the Daily Mail would cease to exist due to having nothing to be outraged about....:hmmm:

steakbake
14-03-2009, 03:26 PM
... and the kneejerk right have just found a new messiah.

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15-03-2009, 07:23 PM
In Clarkson's defence, I did laugh at the Robbie Savage bit.


Has he seen Robbie Savage play? :shocked:

He ain't a footballer - he's a terrorist. He should be nowhere near an airliner's cockpit.

Besides, any Minister of Common Sense would automatically discount the opinions of anyone who either writes for or reads the Sun newspaper.

That would just be common sense.

Iain G
15-03-2009, 10:17 PM
Can I nominate James May as the first minister of Common Sense then :greengrin

Hibee-Bongo
16-03-2009, 08:47 PM
I was watching the Daily Show the other night and was wondering why we don't have somebody like Jon Stewart in the UK? His combination of humour and current affairs know how is fantastic to watch. Kind of like a Charlie Brooker of politics.

The_Todd
16-03-2009, 08:51 PM
I was watching the Daily Show the other night and was wondering why we don't have somebody like Jon Stewart in the UK? His combination of humour and current affairs know how is fantastic to watch. Kind of like a Charlie Brooker of politics.


:agree: The Daily Show with Jon Stewart show is essential viewing. And if we can't have someone in his mould ourselves? I'll just continue watching this one...

Phil D. Rolls
17-03-2009, 11:32 AM
The first 4 words of that diatribe is all you really need to read.

I protested against the Falklands war and many millions opposed the invasion of Iraq and still do.

Should we all be shot in the face?

One of the first jobs any Minister for Common Sense should do is stop that jumped up taxi-driver inflicting his populist, right wing views on the rest of us.

I mean no offence to taxi-drivers (on this occasion :greengrin ).

Settle :tsk tsk: Many taxi drivers (I know at least two) oppose wars and would disagree with anything that Weetabix haired choob comes out with.

Anyway - I agree people shouldn't be shot in the face for saying what they believe. Because that's what happens in places like Iraq isn't it. Or is that just too logical to qualify as common sense?

What is common sense anyway? It seems to me that it is usually what the majority of people think is right. Well, the majority of people believed the world was flat, that banks could be trusted and that Rock Hudson was straight. Hardly a compelling argument is it?

Don't forget that Clarkson makes some pretty low populist statements about Scotland. But I suppose if bringing people down because they've lost an eye, or where they come from is common sense then it must be right.

Or, maybe the Clarksons of this world are so caught up in their own little bubble that anybody that says something to contradict them is just a killjoy or someone with an axe to grind. The problem for me is - having given their take on things - they seem incapable of listening to opposing views on the subject. Then again if they listened and actually thought things through they'd remember that nowhere is life as simple as their brains can actually cope with.

The problem with the world is that if it was simple enough for us to understand then it wouldn't be able to support us.

I've nothing against people wanting to talk about cars myself, but that show he does makes as much sense to me as a game of Top Trumps in the playground. At the end of the day it's about people having opinions, as Clarkson says - everyone has the right to one. Even if there is no sense at all in what those opinions might be.

Woody1985
17-03-2009, 11:42 AM
Settle :tsk tsk: Many taxi drivers (I know at least two) oppose wars and would disagree with anything that Weetabix haired choob comes out with.

Anyway - I agree people shouldn't be shot in the face for saying what they believe. Because that's what happens in places like Iraq isn't it. Or is that just too logical to qualify as common sense?

What is common sense anyway? It seems to me that it is usually what the majority of people think is right. Well, the majority of people believed the world was flat, that banks could be trusted and that Rock Hudson was straight. Hardly a compelling argument is it?

Don't forget that Clarkson makes some pretty low populist statements about Scotland. But I suppose if bringing people down because they've lost an eye, or where they come from is common sense then it must be right.

Or, maybe the Clarksons of this world are so caught up in their own little bubble that anybody that says something to contradict them is just a killjoy or someone with an axe to grind. The problem for me is - having given their take on things - they seem incapable of listening to opposing views on the subject. Then again if they listened and actually thought things through they'd remember that nowhere is life as simple as their brains can actually cope with.

The problem with the world is that if it was simple enough for us to understand then it wouldn't be able to support us.

I've nothing against people wanting to talk about cars myself, but that show he does makes as much sense to me as a game of Top Trumps in the playground. At the end of the day it's about people having opinions, as Clarkson says - everyone has the right to one. Even if there is no sense at all in what those opinions might be.

And breath....

Phil D. Rolls
17-03-2009, 11:46 AM
And breath....

I prefer to cose my eyes and imagine a sun kissed beach, the sound of the waves soothing my soul....:wink:

The_Todd
17-03-2009, 11:47 AM
Settle :tsk tsk: Many taxi drivers (I know at least two) oppose wars and would disagree with anything that Weetabix haired choob comes out with.

Anyway - I agree people shouldn't be shot in the face for saying what they believe. Because that's what happens in places like Iraq isn't it. Or is that just too logical to qualify as common sense?

What is common sense anyway? It seems to me that it is usually what the majority of people think is right. Well, the majority of people believed the world was flat, that banks could be trusted and that Rock Hudson was straight. Hardly a compelling argument is it?

Don't forget that Clarkson makes some pretty low populist statements about Scotland. But I suppose if bringing people down because they've lost an eye, or where they come from is common sense then it must be right.

Or, maybe the Clarksons of this world are so caught up in their own little bubble that anybody that says something to contradict them is just a killjoy or someone with an axe to grind. The problem for me is - having given their take on things - they seem incapable of listening to opposing views on the subject. Then again if they listened and actually thought things through they'd remember that nowhere is life as simple as their brains can actually cope with.

The problem with the world is that if it was simple enough for us to understand then it wouldn't be able to support us.

I've nothing against people wanting to talk about cars myself, but that show he does makes as much sense to me as a game of Top Trumps in the playground. At the end of the day it's about people having opinions, as Clarkson says - everyone has the right to one. Even if there is no sense at all in what those opinions might be.

Class way to describe him :top marks

Clarkson would be the Minister of Stubborn Xenophobia more than anything.

LiverpoolHibs
17-03-2009, 12:18 PM
Stewart Lee gave Clarkson (among many others) a very amusing and well-deserved kicking on his new programme last night.

"A man who had read all the books published today would have to have read all of Dan Brown's novels, two volumes of the Chris Moyles' autobiography, 'The World According To Clarkson' by Jeremy Clarkson, 'The World According To Clarkson Two' by Jeremy Clarkson, 'The World According To Clarkson Three' by Jeremy Clarkson. His mind would be awash with bad metaphors and unsustainable reactionary opinion...In short, the man who had read everything today would be more stupid than the man who had read nothing. That's not a good state of affairs."