BBC "Thatcher collection"

[Part/Time Supporter]

Some interesting old clips and programmes dug out of the archives.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/archive/thatcher/index.shtml

[Pretty Boy]

Some of the old Thatcher stuff is very interesting to pore over. I was trying to explain to a foreign friend why i disliked her so much, showed him a youtube clip of her taking the p1ss out of unemployed miners who tried to protest at the Tory conference, 'It's always warmer where the Conservatives are'. He got the point pretty quickly.

[LiverpoolHibs]

Some of the old Thatcher stuff is very interesting to pore over. I was trying to explain to a foreign friend why i disliked her so much, showed him a youtube clip of her taking the p1ss out of unemployed miners who tried to protest at the Tory conference, 'It's always warmer where the Conservatives are'. He got the point pretty quickly.

I actually can't imagine living through it. I think I would have been in an eleven year non-stop fit of anger. I have no memory of her tenure whatsoever yet the mention of her name makes me absolutely ****ing livid. There might be something wrong with me...

[Hibrandenburg]

I actually can't imagine living through it. I think I would have been in an eleven year non-stop fit of anger. I have no memory of her tenure whatsoever yet the mention of her name makes me absolutely ****ing livid. There might be something wrong with me...

:agree:

[Danderhall Hibs]

I actually can't imagine living through it. I think I would have been in an eleven year non-stop fit of anger. I have no memory of her tenure whatsoever yet the mention of her name makes me absolutely ****ing livid. There might be something wrong with me...

I'm too young to know what she was like as well - I just know my old man hates her with a passion.

[LiverpoolHibs]

:agree:

That there's something wrong with me? :greengrin:wink:

[Hibrandenburg]

That there's something wrong with me? :greengrin:wink:

Nah, I couldn't have possibly meant that. That would mean we agree on something :greengrin

[Pretty Boy]

I'm too young to know what she was like as well - I just know my old man hates her with a passion.

Not old enough to remember her in power either but having studied British politics of the 1980s for 2 years it didn't take long to hate her, and i don't use the word hate lightly. It's also one of the few subjects that can get a swear word out of my Gran.

[LiverpoolHibs]

Nah, I couldn't have possibly meant that. That would mean we agree on something :greengrin

:tee hee:

[stu in nottingham]

I'm old enough to remember her all too well unfortunately.

I remember Nottinghamshire being a battlefield at that time as the miners were reduced to civil war practically. Various members of some former mining families still don't speak to each to each other to this day.

I really can't drag the words out to say what I think about that woman.

[hibiedude]

I'm too young to know what she was like as well - I just know my old man hates her with a passion.

Make no mistake if Thatcher was in charge today we wouldn't be in the mess we are in today and the credit crush we will all face for years to come would never have happened.

Here nickname the Iron Lady was given for a very good reason. :cool2:

look who's has ran the country since she was removed from office, and the muppet that's in charge today :bitchy:

[marinello59]

Make no mistake if Thatcher was in charge today we wouldn't be in the mess we are in today and the credit crush we will all face for years to come would never have happened.

Here nickname the Iron Lady was given for a very good reason. :cool2:

look who's has ran the country since she was removed from office, and the muppet that's in charge today :bitchy:

Do you mean the Margaret Thatcher who oversaw the shift from a country that actually made things to a service economy and began the process of deregulation which allowed the banks to run amok?

[Hiber-nation]

Make no mistake if Thatcher was in charge today we wouldn't be in the mess we are in today and the credit crush we will all face for years to come would never have happened.

Here nickname the Iron Lady was given for a very good reason. :cool2:

look who's has ran the country since she was removed from office, and the muppet that's in charge today :bitchy:

Some folk have short memories! The odious old boot should have been shot.

[GlesgaeHibby]

Some of the old Thatcher stuff is very interesting to pore over. I was trying to explain to a foreign friend why i disliked her so much, showed him a youtube clip of her taking the p1ss out of unemployed miners who tried to protest at the Tory conference, 'It's always warmer where the Conservatives are'. He got the point pretty quickly.

Have you got a link to this clip? can't seem to find it.

Can't believe the love in with her on youtube clips-if you can read the comments without boking.

[Betty Boop]

Just heard on the news, that David Cameron's six year old son Ivan, has died over night he had cerebal palsy. Not a fan of his politics, but my heart goes out to him and his family.

[GlesgaeHibby]

Just heard on the news, that David Cameron's six year old son Ivan, has died over night he had cerebal palsy. Not a fan of his politics, but my heart goes out to him and his family.

You wouldn't wish that on anybody. Absolute tragedy, heart goes out to the Cameron Family today.

[LiverpoolHibs]

Do you mean the Margaret Thatcher who oversaw the shift from a country that actually made things to a service economy and began the process of deregulation which allowed the banks to run amok?

Quite, not to mention the role of the (abominably calculated) 'Right to Buy' scheme in proceedings.

[Hibrandenburg]

Just heard on the news, that David Cameron's six year old son Ivan, has died over night he had cerebal palsy. Not a fan of his politics, but my heart goes out to him and his family.

:agree: What she say's.

[Betty Boop]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUOem7bid-0&feature=related The Battle of Orgreave, shows the struggle of the miners in 1984, coaches of miners came from all corners of the country, to support their fellow workers.

[Killiehibbie]

An evil woman.Celebrations all round if the ira had actually got her in Brighton.

[Tomsk]

Make no mistake if Thatcher was in charge today we wouldn't be in the mess we are in today and the credit crush we will all face for years to come would never have happened.

Here nickname the Iron Lady was given for a very good reason. :cool2:

look who's has ran the country since she was removed from office, and the muppet that's in charge today :bitchy:

If you think the recession we are in now is bad it is nothing compared to the bombsite mess that she had the economy in. 4 million unemployed, rampant inflation, sky high interest rates, businesses collapsing by the hour, cities lke ghost towns, communities ravaged and people's lives wasted. Iron Lady, my arse!

[Just Jimmy]

I know folk who keep two days from their annual holidays every year in the hope she croaks it so they can go on a bender for 48 hours.

If she gets a state funeral it will be a disaster I reckon.

[Betty Boop]

Who could forget Maggie's dreaded Poll Tax, which led to this---- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRj2K0ulD8Q&feature=related :bye:

[Killiehibbie]

Who could forget Maggie's dreaded Poll Tax, which led to this---- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRj2K0ulD8Q&feature=related :bye:

Once again a peaceful demonstration turned into a riot by hooligan police officers wading into the crowd.

[LancashireHibby]

I'm old enough to remember her all too well unfortunately.

I remember Nottinghamshire being a battlefield at that time as the miners were reduced to civil war practically. Various members of some former mining families still don't speak to each to each other to this day.

I really can't drag the words out to say what I think about that woman.

Can be a very strange experience going to some non-league games in Nottinghamshire and Yorkshire; we have a 55 year old ex-miner who gets called a 'scab' to this day on such away trips, despite the fact that the same ex-miner actually travelled to Notts and Yorkshire in support of the strike and fellow miners! I think it's reached an extent to that the truth has been distorted by bitterness, but that can be said for hundreds of subjects.

Fact is, Leigh is likely to be party central when she snuffs it.

Very sad to hear about Cameron's child, by the way. Wouldn't wish that on your worst enemy.

[hibiedude]

Some folk have short memories! The odious old boot should have been shot.

I'm not getting involved in a political debate about one of the best PM'S this country has ever had, now that's just my opinion I was always working during her time as pm, bought my first house with the help of the banking system that was in place at the time. So Margaret Thatcher's actions never effect me or any my family so the IRON LADY always had my vote.

I have mates who will celabrate the day she dies because they hate her so much, but at the end of the day that's there opinion and I respect them for it, but it's not mine

[LiverpoolHibs]

I'm not getting involved in a political debate about one of the best PM'S this country has ever had, now that's just myopinion. I was always working during her time as pm, bought my first house with the help of the banking system that was in place at the time. So Margaret Thatcher's actions never effect me or any my family so the IRON LADY always had my vote.

**** you, Jack, I'm alright!

[lucky]

Make no mistake if Thatcher was in charge today we wouldn't be in the mess we are in today and the credit crush we will all face for years to come would never have happened.

Here nickname the Iron Lady was given for a very good reason. :cool2:

look who's has ran the country since she was removed from office, and the muppet that's in charge today :bitchy:

Is your name not misspelled should it not read hibieDELUDED
It was this woman who destroyed the manufacturing base of this nation and put over 3 million on the dole. Interest rate were 15%. Done away with soical housing. You have won today's prize of the biggest pillock on this board!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[New Corrie]

An evil woman.Celebrations all round if the ira had actually got her in Brighton.

Very good, the fact that she promts views like that is one of the reasons I admire her so much.

The view that she somehow killed off the mining industry is so far fetched it's beyond belief. An early 80's report suggested closing 10 uneconomical pits with the loss of 5000 jobs, enter the trade unions and 48000 mining job losses later and everyone still blames her. I never see any blame heading Scargill's way, yet he and all the layabout trouble makers and flying pickets were the culpable ones. You can't have the country held to ransome by trade unionists. That's what took the country to the brink in the 70's and thankfully a very brave lady made sure that would never happen again. If some common ground could have been found we wouldn't have had to witness the tragic industrial vandalism that has blighted Britain, but with the intimidation/bullying tactics that the unions employed to make sure those who wanted to work couldn't, then common ground was never goung to be found and there was only going to be one outcome.

Is it just irony that after 10 years of a Labour government yet again Britain is on it's knees. As someone rightly pointed out, there's no way that we would be in this state if The Great Lady had been at the helm. Whether the 70's or this time around the Labour Party have managed to steer Britain to the brink.

Sorry, I meant to add, just for the Mining experts out there...More pits closed under Labour Governments than Conservative Governments....but hey! that's ok though isn't it?

[Danderhall Hibs]

**** you, Jack, I'm alright!

:agree: That was the culture she created.

[Dashing Bob S]

Make no mistake if Thatcher was in charge today we wouldn't be in the mess we are in today and the credit crush we will all face for years to come would never have happened.

Here nickname the Iron Lady was given for a very good reason. :cool2:

look who's has ran the country since she was removed from office, and the muppet that's in charge today :bitchy:

That's the funniest one I've heard in a long time. By abolishing student grants and replacing them with loans, Thatcher established a culture whereby a whole generation were encouraged to get into debt, and banks were urged to nakedly compete to get them into debt. These policies were continued by Major, Blair and Brown, but she undoubtedly set the ball rolling, whereby an entire generation came to regard being in debt as a natural thing.

This was further cemented by her selling off of council housing, a rent-to-mortgage switch. Very popular at the time, but as we're seeing now, many people simply can't afford to own their homes - that's why we had a large amount of socialised housing. By giving people loans they can't afford to buy their houses, our borrowing has got out of control.

i think the current mess very much starts with her irresponsible, politically motivated policies.

[LiverpoolHibs]

Very good, the fact that she promts views like that is one of the reasons I admire her so much.

The view that she somehow killed off the mining industry is so far fetched it's beyond belief. An early 80's report suggested closing 10 uneconomical pits with the loss of 5000 jobs, enter the trade unions and 48000 mining job losses later and everyone still blames her. I never see any blame heading Scargill's way, yet he and all the layabout trouble makers and flying pickets were the culpable ones. You can't have the country held to ransome by trade unionists. That's what took the country to the brink in the 70's and thankfully a very brave lady made sure that would never happen again. If some common ground could have been found we wouldn't have had to witness the tragic industrial vandalism that has blighted Britain, but with the intimidation/bullying tactics that the unions employed to make sure those who wanted to work couldn't, then common ground was never goung to be found and there was only going to be one outcome.

For a minute, I actually thought there was an argument here. Whereas actually there's none whatsoever.

The proposed closures of 1981 were for twenty-three pits, not ten. Then there's this bizarre leap when the unions enter somehow as the catalyst for the decline of the industry and the closure of the pits (rather than, um, the people who closed the pits) - without any explanation of what you mean at all.

You never see Scargill being blamed? Are you serious? The man, and the NUM more generally, was the victim of the most successful misinformation and smear-campaign in recent British history.

More generally, next time you should try to pack in even more Thatcherite tabloid jargon; I'll see your 'holding the country to ransom' and 'union intimidation' and raise you a 'cap in hand to the IMF'!

[hibbybrian]

Is it just irony that after 10 years of a Labour government yet again Britain is on it's knees. As someone rightly pointed out, there's no way that we would be in this state if The Great Lady had been at the helm. Whether the 70's or this time around the Labour Party have managed to steer Britain to the brink.

I think the biggest irony was that it was the Tories who ousted Thatcher and assured that she wasn't "at the helm" (or at least her influence was diminished to the extent) "to prevent Labour steering Britain to the brink" :devil: so the Tories are responsible :duck:

[New Corrie]

For a minute, I actually thought there was an argument here. Whereas actually there's none whatsoever.

The proposed closures of 1981 were for twenty-three pits, not ten. Then there's this bizarre leap when the unions enter somehow as the catalyst for the decline of the industry and the closure of the pits (rather than, um, the people who closed the pits) - without any explanation of what you mean at all.

You never see Scargill being blamed? Are you serious? The man, and the NUM more generally, was the victim of the most successful misinformation and smear-campaign in recent British history.

More generally, next time you should try to pack in even more Thatcherite tabloid jargon; I'll see your 'holding the country to ransom' and 'union intimidation' and raise you a 'cap in hand to the IMF'!


I'm basing on the fact that I worked in the mining industry at the time (you weren't born) but seem to be an authority on it. Amazing thing that Wikipedia.

[hibiedude]

Is your name not misspelled should it not read hibieDELUDED
It was this woman who destroyed the manufacturing base of this nation and put over 3 million on the dole. Interest rate were 15%. Done away with soical housing. You have won today's prize of the biggest pillock on this board!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No my user name is hibiedude as for your personal attacks :bye:

I' sure youv'e heard of the word opinion

we all have one mate, sorry next time i'll ask you before posting :asshole: :greengrin

[LiverpoolHibs]

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I'm basing on the fact that I worked in the mining industry at the time (you weren't born) but seem to be an authority on it. Amazing thing that Wikipedia.

Yet you claimed the 1981 proposal was for the closure of ten pits rather than twenty-three? Odd that.

I've read pretty extensively on the subject (ie. not wikipedia - I gave out a jibe so it's fair enough to get one back:wink:) but I'm by no means an authority, no.

[MSK]

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I'm basing on the fact that I worked in the mining industry at the time (you weren't born) but seem to be an authority on it. Amazing thing that Wikipedia.Thatcher was hell bent on closing British pits period ..her fabled reason of wanting to close "unproductive" pits was just a mask when all along she wanted Britain to run on the more sustainable atomic/nuclear power..

Yes, Scargil didnt help matters but it wasnt his idea to close the pits & put thousands of workers on the dole was it ?..it wasnt Scargil who put infiltrators in to freeze union funds either was it ..?

Also..many years after Britains pits had closed we still imported coal from Russia & still do at a cost !!

Tell you what..pop down to my miners club someday ..i would love to see you put your side over to the former miners ...:wink:

Ps..i didnt use wikipidia ..

[Part/Time Supporter]

Just a heads up that there is a dramatisation on BBC4 tomorrow night of her downfall.

:fishin:

[Killiehibbie]

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I'm basing on the fact that I worked in the mining industry at the time (you weren't born) but seem to be an authority on it. Amazing thing that Wikipedia.

Would you not prefer traditional industry that could still be worked in. I'll agree that working practices and unions had to modernise but the approach of her and her henchmen didn't leave much room for negotiation.
I remember asking economics teacher if a country this size could survive on service industries alone. His answer was don't be silly of course it couldn't eventually it would collapse.

[Pretty Boy]

Have you got a link to this clip? can't seem to find it.

Can't believe the love in with her on youtube clips-if you can read the comments without boking.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2h03_QbqhHg

Enjoy. b1tch!!

[Hibrandenburg]

Bitch stole my milk.:grr:

[Betty Boop]

Bitch stole my milk.:grr::faf:

[BroxburnHibee]

This was the best part of the Thatcher years (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3wpcsKzgIk&feature=related)

Argue the politics all you want but I will never ever forgive her for the Poll Tax.:bitchy:

[Pretty Boy]

This was the best part of the Thatcher years (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3wpcsKzgIk&feature=related)

Argue the politics all you want but I will never ever forgive her for the Poll Tax.:bitchy:

Almost feel sorry for her when she cried when she was ousted. I say alomost because then i remember:

The Poll Tax

The mass unemployment

Allowing the death of a fellow MP

The needeless loss of life in the Falklands

Ridiculous inflation rates

The unregulated Capitalism that has continued to this day (which the current 'Labour' Government must also take some responsibility for)

I could go on but frankly its tiresome

[Hibrandenburg]

Almost feel sorry for her when she cried when she was ousted. I say alomost because then i remember:

The Poll Tax

The mass unemployment

Allowing the death of a fellow MP

The needeless loss of life in the Falklands

Ridiculous inflation rates

The unregulated Capitalism that has continued to this day (which the current 'Labour' Government must also take some responsibility for)

I could go on but frankly its tiresome

And my ****ing milk:grr:

[Pretty Boy]

And my ****ing milk:grr:

And mine too, suppose i could add the growing rates of Osteoperosis to my list as well then.:wink:

[New Corrie]

Would you not prefer traditional industry that could still be worked in. I'll agree that working practices and unions had to modernise but the approach of her and her henchmen didn't leave much room for negotiation.
I remember asking economics teacher if a country this size could survive on service industries alone. His answer was don't be silly of course it couldn't eventually it would collapse.


There speaks the man who would have celebrated her demise at the hands of the IRA

[Killiehibbie]

There speaks the man who would have celebrated her demise at the hands of the IRA

No time for them but that would've been one good job. Just ignore the rest of what I said as you can't really fault it.

[Pretty Boy]

There speaks the man who would have celebrated her demise at the hands of the IRA

Surely even you agree her lack of negotiation with the IRA cost more lives than it saved?

As soon as John Major and Tony Blair showed a willingness to negotiate and get around the table breakthroughs began to happen. Although i'm sure you will tell us all that altering Gerry Adams voice on TV and allowing Bobby Sands to starve to death was the real reason for British 'victory'.

[New Corrie]

Surely even you agree her lack of negotiation with the IRA cost more lives than it saved?

As soon as John Major and Tony Blair showed a willingness to negotiate and get around the table breakthroughs began to happen. Although i'm sure you will tell us all that altering Gerry Adams voice on TV and allowing Bobby Sands to starve to death was the real reason for British 'victory'.


I am sure that you would agree that allowing people who's hands are draping in children's blood to prosper is a really good idea. A minesterial post for a child killer....Yeah, how stupid of me...that's a really great idea.

[Pretty Boy]

I am sure that you would agree that allowing people who's hands are draping in children's blood to prosper is a really good idea. A minesterial post for a child killer....Yeah, how stupid of me...that's a really great idea.


Bobby Sands and Gerry Adams were never convicted of killing anyone!

I have no time for the Provisional IRA or the Real IRA, murdering ****bags, but at the same time i have no time for people who are responsible for deaths and 'troubles' who believe they are immune just because they have an offiicial title.

Bloody Sunday anyone?

[New Corrie]

Bobby Sands and Gerry Adams were never convicted of killing anyone!

I have no time for the Provisional IRA or the Real IRA, murdering ****bags, but at the same time i have no time for people who are responsible for deaths and 'troubles' who believe they are immune just because they have an offiicial title.

Bloody Sunday anyone?


I would like to think that none of us would have time for someone who has killed intentionally.

[Pretty Boy]

I would like to think that none of us would have time for someone who has killed intentionally.

Yet there speaks a man who has respect for both Winston Churchill and Margaret Thatcher. I take it when they gave the orders for Dresden and Stanley they intended no civilian caualties?

And i have the deepest time and respect for one of those people despite his role in the deaths of hundreds of civilians.

[LiverpoolHibs]

I am sure that you would agree that allowing people who's hands are draping in children's blood to prosper is a really good idea. A minesterial post for a child killer....Yeah, how stupid of me...that's a really great idea.

Was Bobby Sands ever offered a Ministerial Post? Or indeed kill anybody?

Whereas Margaret Thatcher directly ordered the sinking of the General Belgrano killing 323 Argentinian sailors. I'm sure you deeply admire that also.

'Hands draping in blood' is an odd turn of phrase...

[Pretty Boy]

Was Bobby Sands ever offered a Ministerial Post? Or indeed kill anybody?

Whereas Margaret Thatcher directly ordered the sinking of the General Belgrano killing 323 Argentinian sailors. I'm sure you deepky admire that also.

'Hands draping in blood' is an odd turn of phrase...

:agree:

[LiverpoolHibs]

I would like to think that none of us would have time for someone who has killed intentionally.

Well, you clearly do! Did she think the sailors and civilians on the Genral Belgrano would happily bob to the surface and float to shore laughing as they went? Or that the Hunger Strikers would get a bit bored and nip to the chippy?

[Pretty Boy]

Well, you clearly do! Did she think the sailors and civilians on the Genral Belgrano would happily bob to the surface and flost to shore laughing as they went? Or that the Hunger Strikers would get a bit bored and nip to the chippy?

Of course he doesnt, but unfortunately for anyone with a coherent and sensible argument he will do what he always does and disappear from the thread. Alternatively he may reply with 'witty' one liners and non-sensical arguments, Oh wait he's already done that.

[LiverpoolHibs]

Of course he doesnt, but unfortunately for anyone with a coherent and sensible argument he will do what he always does and disappear from the thread. Alternatively he may reply with 'witty' one liners and non-sensical arguments, Oh wait he's already done that.

You must stop quoting me before I correct my drunken typos... :wink::greengrin

[Pretty Boy]

You must stop quoting me before I correct my drunken typos... :wink::greengrin

Theres a goodchance they will only serve to highlight my own!:thumbsup:

[hibiedude]

Almost feel sorry for her when she cried when she was ousted. I say alomost because then i remember:

The Poll Tax

The mass unemployment

Allowing the death of a fellow MP

The needeless loss of life in the Falklands

Ridiculous inflation rates

The unregulated Capitalism that has continued to this day (which the current 'Labour' Government must also take some responsibility for)

I could go on but frankly its tiresome

We have mass unemployment today do we not and as figurers suggest 850 people will lose there job TODAY AND EVERY DAY THIS YEAR.

Who was to blame for the death of Dr David Kelly was found dead in the woods in 2003. Caught in a political vortex, Dr Kelly had been forced to appear before a televised government committee investigating whether he had accused British government figures of planting in a dossier the questionable claim that WMDs could be unleashed from Iraq in 45 minutes.

The needless loss of life in the Falklands opps replace the words Falklands with the word Iraq.

Ridiculous inflation rates, please go out and try and get a bank loan today ,that's if you have a job

Your last point at least you;ll share the blame with the 'Labour' Government.

Nw the poll Tax I didn't agree with because it was introduced only in Scotland and should have bee across the board.

Margaret Thatcher was Prime Minister of the United Kingdom from 1979 to 1990 so someone liked her. :greengrin

I see by your other post that you like point out that the abuse Mixu is getting on other threads is unfair, but you'll dish it out to others on this site :faf:

Listem mate your opinion off me means what at the end of the day; correct NOTHING

Look at what's happening in the United Kingdom today then tell me we have moved on from the Thatcher years are we in a better position today. People not knowing I they''ll have there house next month, Banking/mortgage/jobs/Pensions all down the toilet. OPPS LETS BLAME MAGGIE :greengrin

[Tomsk]

We have mass unemployment today do we not and as figurers suggest 850 people will lose there job TODAY AND EVERY DAY THIS YEAR.

Who was to blame for the death of Dr David Kelly was found dead in the woods in 2003. Caught in a political vortex, Dr Kelly had been forced to appear before a televised government committee investigating whether he had accused British government figures of planting in a dossier the questionable claim that WMDs could be unleashed from Iraq in 45 minutes.

The needless loss of life in the Falklands opps replace the words Falklands with the word Iraq.

Ridiculous inflation rates, please go out and try and get a bank loan today ,that's if you have a job

Your last point at least you;ll share the blame with the 'Labour' Government.

Nw the poll Tax I didn't agree with because it was introduced only in Scotland and should have bee across the board.

Margaret Thatcher was Prime Minister of the United Kingdom from 1979 to 1990 so someone liked her. :greengrin

I see by your other post that you like point out that the abuse Mixu is getting on other threads is unfair, but you'll dish it out to others on this site :faf:

Listem mate your opinion off me means what at the end of the day; correct NOTHING

Look at what's happening in the United Kingdom today then tell me we have moved on from the Thatcher years are we in a better position today. People not knowing I they''ll have there house next month, Banking/mortgage/jobs/Pensions all down the toilet. OPPS LETS BLAME MAGGIE :greengrin

I thought you weren't getting involved in a political argument?

Such as it is.

[LiverpoolHibs]

We have mass unemployment today do we not and as figurers suggest 850 people will lose there job TODAY AND EVERY DAY THIS YEAR.

Who was to blame for the death of Dr David Kelly was found dead in the woods in 2003. Caught in a political vortex, Dr Kelly had been forced to appear before a televised government committee investigating whether he had accused British government figures of planting in a dossier the questionable claim that WMDs could be unleashed from Iraq in 45 minutes.

The needless loss of life in the Falklands opps replace the words Falklands with the word Iraq.

Ridiculous inflation rates, please go out and try and get a bank loan today ,that's if you have a job

Your last point at least you;ll share the blame with the 'Labour' Government.

Nw the poll Tax I didn't agree with because it was introduced only in Scotland and should have bee across the board.

Margaret Thatcher was Prime Minister of the United Kingdom from 1979 to 1990 so someone liked her. :greengrin

I see by your other post that you like point out that the abuse Mixu is getting on other threads is unfair, but you'll dish it out to others on this site :faf:

Listem mate your opinion off me means what at the end of the day; correct NOTHING

Look at what's happening in the United Kingdom today then tell me we have moved on from the Thatcher years are we in a better position today. People not knowing I they''ll have there house next month, Banking/mortgage/jobs/Pensions all down the toilet. OPPS LETS BLAME MAGGIE :greengrin

Defending one administration merely by referring to the failures of another is hardly a ringing endorsement.

[Just Jimmy]

Defending one administration merely by referring to the failures of another is hardly a ringing endorsement.

it's politics though. That's where the REAL problem lies, politicians never ever try to drag the level of debate up, or try and make a change in anyway.

It's always about claiming to be better than the last administration. It's time someone came along and exposed politics for what it really is, someone who actually wants to do something for the country.

Cameron will no doubt win the next election because Brown is a complete clown, but will he be any better? Another 10 years or so of Tory rule, unpicking what Labour has done, only for Labour to come back in for another few years and unpick what the Tories do.

Its a circle of *****.

[hibiedude]

I thought you weren't getting involved in a political argument?

Such as it is.

To be honest I wasn't but some guys hate to hear other people's opinions :cool2:

[lobster]

No state funeral for Thatcher unless we can bury her alive.
Horrible old greed-oriented ratbag. There, i've said my bit.

[Pretty Boy]

We have mass unemployment today do we not and as figurers suggest 850 people will lose there job TODAY AND EVERY DAY THIS YEAR.

Who was to blame for the death of Dr David Kelly was found dead in the woods in 2003. Caught in a political vortex, Dr Kelly had been forced to appear before a televised government committee investigating whether he had accused British government figures of planting in a dossier the questionable claim that WMDs could be unleashed from Iraq in 45 minutes.

The needless loss of life in the Falklands opps replace the words Falklands with the word Iraq.

Ridiculous inflation rates, please go out and try and get a bank loan today ,that's if you have a job

Your last point at least you;ll share the blame with the 'Labour' Government.

Nw the poll Tax I didn't agree with because it was introduced only in Scotland and should have bee across the board.

Margaret Thatcher was Prime Minister of the United Kingdom from 1979 to 1990 so someone liked her. :greengrin

I see by your other post that you like point out that the abuse Mixu is getting on other threads is unfair, but you'll dish it out to others on this site :faf:

Listem mate your opinion off me means what at the end of the day; correct NOTHING

Look at what's happening in the United Kingdom today then tell me we have moved on from the Thatcher years are we in a better position today. People not knowing I they''ll have there house next month, Banking/mortgage/jobs/Pensions all down the toilet. OPPS LETS BLAME MAGGIE :greengrin

First off i'm completely mystified why you are getting on your high horse, having looked back through the thread i fail to see where i have personally had a pop at you. I can't see where i've made a personal slight at you and if i have then i apologise. I have no opinion on you as a person as frankly i don't know you.

Secondly, yes i do have a job and work bl00dy hard at it, everyone who hates Conservatism and Thatcher isn't a work shy waster, in fact i'd say the vast majority of us aren't.

Thirdly it has already been said but replacing the failings of one government with another isn't exactly a strong argument, i have almost as little time for this 'Labour' Government as i have for the Tories in the past or inevitably in the future.

And finally i can't remember posting anything about the abuse Mixu receives, although i do think it's out of order. The fact you went out of your way to dig for dirt though really says far more about you than it does about me.

[hibiedude]

First off i'm completely mystified why you are getting on your high horse, having looked back through the thread i fail to see where i have personally had a pop at you. I can't see where i've made a personal slight at you and if i have then i apologise. I have no opinion on you as a person as frankly i don't know you.

Secondly, yes i do have a job and work bl00dy hard at it, everyone who hates Conservatism and Thatcher isn't a work shy waster, in fact i'd say the vast majority of us aren't.

Thirdly it has already been said but replacing the failings of one government with another isn't exactly a strong argument, i have almost as little time for this 'Labour' Government as i have for the Tories in the past or inevitably in the future.

And finally i can't remember posting anything about the abuse Mixu receives, although i do think it's out of order. The fact you went out of your way to dig for dirt though really says far more about you than it does about me.

I didn't dig through you dirt but remember you replying in a post soon after me on a Mixu topic, and the if you still have a job quote was not meant as a ridicule but was a point about firms closing and I was not sure if you were cough up in the many people losing there jobs in recent months. If It came accross anyother way then I apologise. :duck:

[Hibbie_Cameron]

Cameron will no doubt win the next election because Brown is a complete clown, but will he be any better? Another 10 years or so of Tory rule, unpicking what Labour has done, only for Labour to come back in for another few years and unpick what the Tories do.

Its a circle of *****.

Im not standing, so there goes your place in the cabinet:rolleyes::na na:

[LiverpoolHibs]

Today marks the 25th anniversary of the start of the Miner's Strike, incidentally.

[Betty Boop]

Today marks the 25th anniversary of the start of the Miner's Strike, incidentally.:agree: One of the most bitter and hard fought battles of industrial action, in British history. Lest we forget.

[Just Jimmy]

Im not standing, so there goes your place in the cabinet:rolleyes::na na:

oh well then. :greengrin

[LiverpoolHibs]

A fantastic interview and performance in this clip from Elvis Costello...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Znn5a-88tY

I saw a newspaper picture from the political campaign
A woman was kissing a child, who was obviously in pain
She spills with compassion, as that young childs
Face in her hands she grips
Can you imagine all that greed and avarice
Coming down on that childs lips

Well I hope I dont die too soon
I pray the lord my soul to save
Oh Ill be a good boy, Im trying so hard to behave
Because theres one thing I know, Id like to live
Long enough to savour
Thats when they finally put you in the ground
Ill stand on your grave and tramp the dirt down

When England was the whore of the world
Margeret was her madam
And the future looked as bright and as clear as
The black tarmacadam
Well I hope that she sleeps well at night, isnt
Haunted by every tiny detail
Cos when she held that lovely face in her hands
All she thought of was betrayal

And now the cynical ones say that it all ends the same in the long run
Try telling that to the desperate father who just squeezed the life from his only son
And how its only voices in your head and dreams you never dreamt
Try telling him the subtle difference between justice and contempt
Try telling me she isnt angry with this pitiful discontent
When they flaunt it in your face as you line up for punishment
And then expect you to say thank you straighten up, look proud and pleased
Because youve only got the symptoms, you havent got the whole disease
Just like a schoolboy, whose heads like a tin-can
Filled up with dreams then poured down the drain
Try telling that to the boys on both sides, being blown to bits or beaten and maimed
Who takes all the glory and none of the shame

Well I hope you live long now, I pray the lord your soul to keep
I think Ill be going before we fold our arms and start to weep
I never thought for a moment that human life could be so cheap
Cos when they finally put you in the ground
Theyll stand there laughing and tramp the dirt down

[RyeSloan]

Maggie Thatcher had many many faults and I will never claim to like the woman but that doesn't mean she didn't also have a positive effect....breaking the unions and their wanton desire to run the country instead of elected government has to rank as her single most important success.

[givescotlandfreedom]

Maggie Thatcher had many many faults and I will never claim to like the woman but that doesn't mean she didn't also have a positive effect....breaking the unions and their wanton desire to run the country instead of elected government has to rank as her single most important success.

A disgusting, horrible, vile person.