Headhunted or conned at work

[PiemanP]

anyone ever been headhunted, or conned by their own employer :greengrin

was sitting working away earlier today when i get a call from some recruitment agency. they asked me shed loads about myself, but not my qualifications or age :confused:. as i was bored at work i went along with it, and basically made myself out to be some complete workhorse who would do anything to succeed :faf: i always lied about my salary and how much it would take to lure me to anothe rcompany.

Then they say they have a vacancy in a company which i shall not name, and i fit there bill perfect.

they are phoning me again tomorrow for another "chat" once i have read all there leaflets which they are apparently sending me via email tomorrow aswell.


Just a few questions however as when i got off the phone i started to get suspicious, that maybe i had been donw by my own company. although at no point did i bad mouth my own company, quite the opposite.


has anyone ever encountered something like this
could it be my own company checking up on me?
how would they have got my direct phone number?
if it is genuine can this new comapny find out my salary as i bumped it up quite a bit thinking they would offfer a wee bit more :wink:
thoughts?

[Speedy]

What is it you do?

[Danderhall Hibs]

was sitting working away earlier today when i get a call from some recruitment agency. they asked me shed loads about myself, but not my qualifications or age :confused:. as i was bored at work i went along with it, and basically made myself out to be some complete workhorse who would do anything to succeed :faf: i always lied about my salary and how much it would take to lure me to anothe rcompany.

Then they say they have a vacancy in a company which i shall not name, and i fit there bill perfect.



Recruitment agencies always tell you that - fundamentally they're just liars.

You'll probably find that they've got a number for your work from someone else on their books (I'm guessing you work for a a large employer?) and have just changed the last couple of digits to get to a different desk.

At the end of the day you can't get into any trouble with your current employer for talking to them.

[ancienthibby]

What is it you do?

He writes fiction!:devil:

[PiemanP]

What is it you do?

Final salary administrator.


Recruitment agencies always tell you that - fundamentally they're just liars.

You'll probably find that they've got a number for your work from someone else on their books (I'm guessing you work for a a large employer?) and have just changed the last couple of digits to get to a different desk.

At the end of the day you can't get into any trouble with your current employer for talking to them.

Yeah i know recruitment agencys just butter you up, and one of their many lines which they continually used was "an intellegent person like yourself" :greengrin

I've not changed my number in the 8 months iv been there, and tbh im more actually paranoid its my own company trying to catch me out.

[Danderhall Hibs]

Final salary administrator.



Yeah i know recruitment agencys just butter you up, and one of their many lines which they continually used was "an intellegent person like yourself" :greengrin

I've not changed my number in the 8 months iv been there, and tbh im more actually paranoid its my own company trying to catch me out.

Catch you out doing what though? You've done nothing wrong mate.

I don't think companies would waste their time (and money) checking up on staff like that - pension administrators are ten a penny (no offence - I was one myself not so long ago!) so don't panic about that.

The agency sound a right smarmy lot though - did you give them any personal info other than your name and made up salary?

[PiemanP]

Catch you out doing what though? You've done nothing wrong mate.

I don't think companies would waste their time (and money) checking up on staff like that - pension administrators are ten a penny (no offence - I was one myself not so long ago!) so don't panic about that.

The agency sound a right smarmy lot though - did you give them any personal info other than your name and made up salary?

Yeah and it was around 5.00 aswell so would be a wierd time for my own company to be doing checks.

only personal information was my email address, was on the phone for a good half hour though, youd have thought i was the bloody chief exec the way i was talking not a wee admin boy :greengrin mind u if i get a new job on a bumper salary out of it you wont hear me complaining :cool2:

[Speedy]

Final salary administrator.



Strange, I thought it was normally upper management that get headhunted.

They weren't offering a job in the National Bank of Nigeria were they? :greengrin

[Frazerbob]

I used a few agencies about a year ago when looking for a new job. A few of them phone me every couple of months to see "how I'm getting on" and if I fancy another move, telling me they have "a great opportunity". They strike as being about as low as football agents and obviously want folk to move as often as possible to get their finder's fee.

[PiemanP]

just a wee update..

i have been in touch with the woman again, and she is keen on organising an interview with this new company. So iv now definatly cleared thats its not my own company.

Can anyone answer this though: I'v completly lied about my salary (to the effect of £4000 increase :wink:), and we discussed possible new salarys today on the phone which were all in line with this made up salary.

Is there a way that this potential new employer could find out my current salary and blow me out the water, or am i safe keeping bluffing away? :greengrin

[Woody1985]

just a wee update..

i have been in touch with the woman again, and she is keen on organising an interview with this new company. So iv now definatly cleared thats its not my own company.

Can anyone answer this though: I'v completly lied about my salary (to the effect of £4000 increase :wink:), and we discussed possible new salarys today on the phone which were all in line with this made up salary.

Is there a way that this potential new employer could find out my current salary and blow me out the water, or am i safe keeping bluffing away? :greengrin

I think they can find out but I'm not quite sure how they do it. I always inflate mine by 2-3k and then if/when my salary is raised I tell them that includes OT (if they specifically ask if it includes OT). I then tell them my desired salary, another 2-3k on top of the one already quoted.

I then say I feel I can achieve that salary in the marketplace and it is reflective of my skills blah blah blah.

[offshorehibby]

just a wee update..

i have been in touch with the woman again, and she is keen on organising an interview with this new company. So iv now definatly cleared thats its not my own company.

Can anyone answer this though: I'v completly lied about my salary (to the effect of £4000 increase :wink:), and we discussed possible new salarys today on the phone which were all in line with this made up salary.

Is there a way that this potential new employer could find out my current salary and blow me out the water, or am i safe keeping bluffing away? :greengrin


It’s not a case of lying or what your current salary is. The agency has asked you what salary you would be willing to move for and you have told them. If that’s not acceptable to the new employer they will probably negotiate on their terms if they really want you.

I’ve sometimes found the grass isn’t always greener.

[ancienthibby]

just a wee update..

i have been in touch with the woman again, and she is keen on organising an interview with this new company. So iv now definatly cleared thats its not my own company.

Can anyone answer this though: I'v completly lied about my salary (to the effect of £4000 increase :wink:), and we discussed possible new salarys today on the phone which were all in line with this made up salary.

Is there a way that this potential new employer could find out my current salary and blow me out the water, or am i safe keeping bluffing away? :greengrin

If you are being headhunted at 17, you clearly are a genius!!:greengrin

But a word of advice. Never a good idea to lie about your employment facts - you will get found out!!

And any salary fibs will be well obvious when you hand your new employer your P45!!:agree:

[Peevemor]

If you are being headhunted at 17, you clearly are a genius!!:greengrin

But a word of advice. Never a good idea to lie about your employment facts - you will get found out!!

And any salary fibs will be well obvious when you hand your new employer your P45!!:agree:

:agree: Just before he hands you another one. :greengrin

[ancienthibby]

:agree: Just before he hands you another one. :greengrin

:top marks

[degenerated]

anyone ever been headhunted, or conned by their own employer :greengrin

was sitting working away earlier today when i get a call from some recruitment agency. they asked me shed loads about myself, but not my qualifications or age :confused:. as i was bored at work i went along with it, and basically made myself out to be some complete workhorse who would do anything to succeed :faf: i always lied about my salary and how much it would take to lure me to anothe rcompany.

Then they say they have a vacancy in a company which i shall not name, and i fit there bill perfect.

they are phoning me again tomorrow for another "chat" once i have read all there leaflets which they are apparently sending me via email tomorrow aswell.


Just a few questions however as when i got off the phone i started to get suspicious, that maybe i had been donw by my own company. although at no point did i bad mouth my own company, quite the opposite.


has anyone ever encountered something like this
could it be my own company checking up on me?
how would they have got my direct phone number?
if it is genuine can this new comapny find out my salary as i bumped it up quite a bit thinking they would offfer a wee bit more :wink:
thoughts?

its happened to me twice, i havent applied for either of my last two jobs but have been approached by recruitment agencies (whom i had never previously spoken to).
Worked for me as in the space of 5 years i made two changes of job making steps up and with larger and more financially stable companies, and added around 30% to my salary each time. Now i am working for a company that i am entirely happy working for and can see a good career progression with as well.

So all in all, it might be worth listening to what they've got to say!!!

[H185FC]

If they question the salary on your p45 just say you took some unpaid leave for a training course/travel the world

[ancienthibby]

If they question the salary on your p45 just say you took some unpaid leave for a training course/travel the world

And just one phonecall to the exiting company and this strategy will crumble!!

Why would you mislead the young man??

[degenerated]

If they question the salary on your p45 just say you took some unpaid leave for a training course/travel the world

i think they will expect people to slightly embellish their current salaries - it's human nature. however, if they feel the candidate is worth what it would "appear" to take in terms of salary to get them then they will offer.

a wiser man than me once said :greengrin

"you don't get what's fair - you get what you negotiate." and that works both ways.

[degenerated]

And just one phonecall to the exiting company and this strategy will crumble!!

Why would you mislead the young man??

the best strategy, i find, is to tell them what it would take for you to be interested rather than lie about what you earn.

[Woody1985]

I found myself in the position where I had 2.5 years experience is a role that dictates 25k on average in the market for 3-4 years experience.

I was being paid 18k and felt that I was performing at a higher standard than my peers (I was the newest & youngest into my area and out of 8 people was quickly the 3rd rated in my team in terms of ability and salary grading yet I was 7th or 8th in being paid. The problem with the grades is that someone can be a lower grade and get paid more than you :confused::grr:).

I told my boss that I had an interview for another company on 23k that afternoon (which I did) and wanted to know what my increase salary was going to be upon the next pay review (5/6 weeks away). He said he couldn't tell me and I said to him I might have my resignation for the end of the day. He phoned his boss and told me, I was happy with it so decided to stay.

If you are that good you may be able to negotiate a better salary with your current employer. As someone said though, the grass isn't always greener. Although my advice in this economic climate would be.... Don't push your luck and unless you're certain stay in the job you have if it's relatively secure / offers a good redundancy package.

FWIW, it doesn't sound like you've been headhunted! The agency is trying to make a few quid getting another employer a resource from elsewhere for which they're paid. :tee hee:

[Peevemor]

If they question the salary on your p45 just say you took some unpaid leave for a training course/travel the world

Which definitely won't impress a prospective employer.

[sleeping giant]

I have been offered 2 jobs this week. One from a mate who has won a contract for demolition in Africa due to their new explosive laws:bye:

And one from a rival company. They contacted me and seem very interested but i am unsure how to feel about it as i dont want to get used for info about my current employers.

By the way , the first job i was offered in Africa was for 2k per week.
8 weeks in Africa , 3 weeks home. Full training provided for me to become a "Master Blaster":greengrin

It all sounds great but the guy has talked some p1sh in his time:greengrin
Saying that , he is over there now with his business partner "sorting" it out.

Mibbies...............

[jonty]

I have been offered 2 jobs this week. One from a mate who has won a contract for demolition in Africa due to their new explosive laws:bye:

And one from a rival company. They contacted me and seem very interested but i am unsure how to feel about it as i dont want to get used for info about my current employers.

By the way , the first job i was offered in Africa was for 2k per week.
8 weeks in Africa , 3 weeks home. Full training provided for me to become a "Master Blaster":greengrin

It all sounds great but the guy has talked some p1sh in his time:greengrin
Saying that , he is over there now with his business partner "sorting" it out.

Mibbies...............

You'd be able to do Tynie and the East stand in the 3 weeks you had at home :greengrin

[Danderhall Hibs]

By the way , the first job i was offered in Africa was for 2k per week.
8 weeks in Africa , 3 weeks home. Full training provided for me to become a "Master Blaster":greengrin

£2k a week?! Absurd salary, outrageous, it disgusts me :blah: Even footballers don't get to do 8 weeks on 3 weeks off.

Isn't that the normal discussions when we see numbers like that? :greengrin

[Hibs90]

You clearly are a genius!!:greengrin
:

To be honest I wouldn't be so sure. :greengrin

[PiemanP]

To be honest I wouldn't be so sure. :greengrin

watch it :greengrin