More 'PC gone mad' fodder?

[Steve-O]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjRJlyl7P6E

Surely an overreaction from the people who called in to complain about this?? It's actually embarrassing having to watch the presenters apologising so profusely!

It is, IMO, PC gone mad!!! :wink:

[Hibbyradge]

Some people just have different standards to you, Steve.

Some folk don't swear, don't want to hear swearing and don't want their children to learn to swear at 7.00 in the morning.

It was a pretty bad mistake by the editing team and folk wanted to complain about it, despite the apologies.

They probably wanted someone disciplined for it.

[LiverpoolHibs]

I'm confused as to how this has anything to do with political correctness...

[Austinho]

Some people just have different standards to you, Steve.

Some folk don't swear, don't want to hear swearing and don't want their children to learn to swear at 7.00 in the morning.

It was a pretty bad mistake by the editing team and folk wanted to complain about it, despite the apologies.

They probably wanted someone disciplined for it.I can understand them not wanting to hear swearing - that is entirely up to them, but why complain? It was obviously a mistake, they pulled it off air straight away, indicating they knew it was unacceptable to air, and even apologised excessively for it afterwards.

The people who complained in this instance should get a (decent) life. Truely pathetic little snitches in my opinion.

[Sir David Gray]

I can understand them not wanting to hear swearing - that is entirely up to them, but why complain? It was obviously a mistake, they pulled it off air straight away, indicating they knew it was unacceptable to air, and even apologised excessively for it afterwards.

The people who complained in this instance should get a (decent) life. Truely pathetic little snitches in my opinion.

:agree: Exactly. I fully understand why some people would be horrified at this sort of mistake being made, but that's all it was, a mistake.

The swearing should not have gone out and someone will have had their knuckles rapped, but I don't see the need in phoning to complain.

The presenters gave a full apology there and then and I think that should be the end of it.

If it happens again anytime in the near future, then something more serious should possibly happen.

[Stonewall]

I'm confused as to how this has anything to do with political correctness...

Actually it's just proof that any post you read on here containing the phrase 'it's just PC gone mad' (or variations of) should be ignored as the person posting it is being lazy and using the phrase in place of a coherent arguement. Or maybe they just aren't capable of making their case in the first place.

As for Clarkson my seven year old thinks he's fantastic. I think he's an entertainer: and really, who cares?l

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I'd say that the complaints were justified - breakfast TV isn't the place for that sort of language, even when it's the result of a mistake in production.

Apologies were made, issue closed. :cool2:

[matty_f]

I agree that folk complaining about that need to have a word with themselves.

The whole point of a complaint should be to express dissatisfaction, or draw attention or to rectify a situation that has caused dissatisfaction IMHO, in this case complaining about it is absolutely pointless - the presenters and the production team immediately stopped the broadcast of the offensive bit, and apologised and said it wouldn't happen again.

Why on earth would you still need to complain after having someone admit the mistake, correct it, apologise and prevent it recurring?

[Steve-O]

Actually it's just proof that any post you read on here containing the phrase 'it's just PC gone mad' (or variations of) should be ignored as the person posting it is being lazy and using the phrase in place of a coherent arguement. Or maybe they just aren't capable of making their case in the first place.

As for Clarkson my seven year old thinks he's fantastic. I think he's an entertainer: and really, who cares?l

Note the inverted commas used in the title :rolleyes:

[Steve-O]

Some people just have different standards to you, Steve.

Some folk don't swear, don't want to hear swearing and don't want their children to learn to swear at 7.00 in the morning.

It was a pretty bad mistake by the editing team and folk wanted to complain about it, despite the apologies.

They probably wanted someone disciplined for it.

I'm not saying I WANT to hear swearing in the morning or at any time, I'm not really bothered.

My point is why bother complaining when it's quite clear it was a mistake, and also quite clear that someone will be in trouble for the error?

I wonder if the complainers have ever made a mistake in their job? Probably, after all they are human.

Children are more likely to learn swearing in the playground than from a one-off error on BBC news, at a time when they were probably not even awake yet in the first place.

[Hibbyradge]

I can understand them not wanting to hear swearing - that is entirely up to them, but why complain? It was obviously a mistake, they pulled it off air straight away, indicating they knew it was unacceptable to air, and even apologised excessively for it afterwards.

The people who complained in this instance should get a (decent) life. Truely pathetic little snitches in my opinion.

Again, it's about values and beliefs.

I have no problem with people complaining, even when there has been an apology. It happens all the time. Prince Harry, Jeremy Clarkson, Ron Atkinson to name a few.

You've probably wanted folked sacked for making a mistake before. Several referees, I would guess. :wink: Not that they usually apologise, right enough.

Maybe they wanted to complain so they get the message across that it's not acceptable.

Maybe they suspect that someone in the editing team did it deliberately.

Maybe they feel that if they don't complain, the BBC will just continue to do what it wants, then issue a quick apology to cover themselves.

Sometimes "sorry" isn't enough. And that is down to the individual's perception.

[Hibbyradge]

I agree that folk complaining about that need to have a word with themselves.

The whole point of a complaint should be to express dissatisfaction, or draw attention or to rectify a situation that has caused dissatisfaction IMHO, in this case complaining about it is absolutely pointless - the presenters and the production team immediately stopped the broadcast of the offensive bit, and apologised and said it wouldn't happen again.

Why on earth would you still need to complain after having someone admit the mistake, correct it, apologise and prevent it recurring?

Maybe they wanted someone punished for their "mistake"?

I've never phoned in a complaint - obviously my standards are in the gutter - but loads of folk do, about all sorts of things which I would rate as nonsense.

For example, how many folk in Scotland waste their time and money, everytime someone mistakenly says "English" instead of British?

Those calls would be made whether or not there was an aoplogy. I can hear them now: "I don't care if he's said sorry or not, it's just not good enough. I'm Scottish and I pay my TV licence just like everyone else, yet I'm treated like a second class citizen. It happens all the time. etc etc etc".

Some would argue that this is a reasonable approach.

[HibsMax]

I wonder what the people who complained were thinking as they were phoning or logging into their e-mails? What was the purpose of complaining? As soon as the mistake was made the clip was yanked and the presenters acknowledged the mistake. There is nothing more that could be done at that point and I would certainly hate to think of someone losing their job over this. I'm pretty sure the person(s) responsible feel pretty sheepish and I am sure they were reprimanded. If the BBC had tried to sweep this under the rug and pretend like it never happened, THAT is cause for complaint. I think they did the best they could under the circumstances.

Of course it would be much better if the properly edited clip was aired but to err is human. This is nothing more than a mistake. There's no need to form a lynch mob.

And if I can wheel out this old chestnut, people are exposed to much worse during the course of a normal day.

[matty_f]

Maybe they wanted someone punished for their "mistake"?

I've never phoned in a complaint - obviously my standards are in the gutter - but loads of folk do, about all sorts of things which I would rate as nonsense.

For example, how many folk in Scotland waste their time and money, everytime someone mistakenly says "English" instead of British?

Those calls would be made whether or not there was an aoplogy. I can hear them now: "I don't care if he's said sorry or not, it's just not good enough. I'm Scottish and I pay my TV licence just like everyone else, yet I'm treated like a second class citizen. It happens all the time. etc etc etc".

Some would argue that this is a reasonable approach.

The bit about wanting someone punished is why folk need to have a word with themselves, IMHO.

Nothing wrong with complaining as such, but it should be constructive and with a view to improving the situation that caused the complaint. In this case, nothing could reasonably be expected to be done to correct it, other than an apology and an assurance that it wouldn't happen again.

If it happened again later on, then by all means complain as they'd had the chance to rectify it and hadn't kept their word, as it was though they acknowledged that it was unacceptable, apologised profusely and that should be that, IMHO.