East Lothian Labour Party Suspended

[Scotsman]

Looks like the good old Labour Party in East Lothian are in open warfare again

Exteremly embarassing for Iain Gray - leader of the Labour Party in Scotland -but can`t control his own constituency

Labour has suspended business at its largest Scottish constituency party amid a row over the re-selection of local MP Anne Moffat as a candidate.

The East Lothian constituency is now effectively overseen by the Labour Party's National Executive Committee.

Ms Moffat declined to comment in detail, saying it was an "internal Labour Party matter".

Labour insiders have said the local party had behaved "unconstitutionally" and "defied" the national party.

The move means there can be no formal meetings of the constituency party or business transacted, although campaigning can continue.

Scottish Labour leader Iain Gray, who is the MSP for East Lothian, said his work as a local politician would continue as normal.

"This is a matter for the constituency Labour Party and the party at a national level"

The suspension came after a meeting of the NEC on Tuesday, amid a lengthy, ongoing dispute about whether Ms Moffat should be re-selected to defend the East Lothian seat at the next UK election.

It is expected that a full internal investigation will be carried out by the national executive into the local party and its affairs.

Mr Gray said: "This is a matter for the constituency Labour Party and the party at a national level.

"I am pleased that the National Executive Committee is seeking to resolve it and I hope that will happen quickly."

[GlesgaeHibby]

There was fury last time out at the general election as it was too tight to call between branches that had supported her being put forward for re election and those that hadn't.

The sooner she goes, the better TBH. All she has done is rack up a ridiculous amount of expenses. Can't ever remember seeing her canvassing in East Lothian or doing anything in parliament for her constituency.

[Phil D. Rolls]

This woman seems to be a bit of a controversial character. I've heard she has a massive ego and doesn't go out of her way to win friends. Is that fair?

[lyonhibs]

Proof yet again - sadly - that Scottish Labour under there current "guise" don't have a pot to piss in.

Indeed that's being generous, as pissing in a pot would require a modicum of co-ordination and for a few internal systems to be operating effectively.

[lucky]

My take on this is that there 8 branches of the East Lothian CLP. 2 voted to have as their candidate 6 voted to have re-selection ballot. However the union who are affiliated to the CLP back Ann Moffat as such the overall decision was that there was no need to have a re selection ballot. This has not gone down well with some activists and such the CLP has not been functioning properly as such was suspended. The NEC the run the CLP until the matter is resolved. this is not the first time that NEC have run CLP. In real political terms it means nothing. But the likelihood that Miss Moffat can calvanese enough support locally to mount a serious campaign is doubtful. This actually has nothing to do with Ian Gray.

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My take on this is that there 8 branches of the East Lothian CLP. 2 voted to have as their candidate 6 voted to have re-selection ballot. However the union who are affiliated to the CLP back Ann Moffat as such the overall decision was that there was no need to have a re selection ballot. This has not gone down well with some activists and such the CLP has not been functioning properly as such was suspended. The NEC the run the CLP until the matter is resolved. this is not the first time that NEC have run CLP. In real political terms it means nothing. But the likelihood that Miss Moffat can calvanese enough support locally to mount a serious campaign is doubtful. This actually has nothing to do with Ian Gray.


Take a deep breath, slow down, and start again. :cool2:

You're being less than lucid here.

And there is no such word as calvanese. I think you mean galvanise.

And I agree with GlesgaeHibby - I come from East Lothian and still have friends there, and I have yet to meet anyone who has the slightest respect for Moffat - "expenses-generating chocolate fireguard" is the general opinion, but then if you pin a red rosette on a monkey in some parts of Scotland....

[McSwanky]

Take a deep breath, slow down, and start again. :cool2:

You're being less than lucid here.

And there is no such word as calvanese. I think you mean galvanise.

And I agree with GlesgaeHibby - I come from East Lothian and still have friends there, and I have yet to meet anyone who has the slightest respect for Moffat - "expenses-generating chocolate fireguard" is the general opinion, but then if you pin a red rosette on a monkey in some parts of Scotland....

A bit catty from you, Doddie. Don't think there was any real need for your comments on lucky's post.

Anyway, I also come from East Lothian and I haven't heard of a single thing, good or bad, that Ms Moffat has done for the constituency. Which in itself is not good.

[Scotsman]

My take on this is that there 8 branches of the East Lothian CLP. 2 voted to have as their candidate 6 voted to have re-selection ballot. However the union who are affiliated to the CLP back Ann Moffat as such the overall decision was that there was no need to have a re selection ballot. This has not gone down well with some activists and such the CLP has not been functioning properly as such was suspended. The NEC the run the CLP until the matter is resolved. this is not the first time that NEC have run CLP. In real political terms it means nothing. But the likelihood that Miss Moffat can calvanese enough support locally to mount a serious campaign is doubtful. This actually has nothing to do with Ian Gray.--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

This has everything to do with Iain Gray - its his constituency party also

Iain Gray and Anne Moffat must communicate??

He and Anne Moffat have a role in communicating with their activists and providing direction.

The bottom line is that the EAST LOTHIAN LABOUR PARTY is in utter turmoil and is in a shambolic state.

Labour lost control of East Lothian Council because of its incompetence and its handling of the former Chief Executive`s so called "redundancy"

Its former councillors are supposedly behind the move to oust Anne Moffat

In this time of economic hardship they should concentrate on helping people in East Lothian, not fighting amongst themselves.

[GlesgaeHibby]

My take on this is that there 8 branches of the East Lothian CLP. 2 voted to have as their candidate 6 voted to have re-selection ballot. However the union who are affiliated to the CLP back Ann Moffat as such the overall decision was that there was no need to have a re selection ballot. This has not gone down well with some activists and such the CLP has not been functioning properly as such was suspended. The NEC the run the CLP until the matter is resolved. this is not the first time that NEC have run CLP. In real political terms it means nothing. But the likelihood that Miss Moffat can calvanese enough support locally to mount a serious campaign is doubtful. This actually has nothing to do with Ian Gray.--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

This has everything to do with Iain Gray - its his constituency party also

Iain Gray and Anne Moffat must communicate??

He and Anne Moffat have a role in communicating with their activists and providing direction.

The bottom line is that the EAST LOTHIAN LABOUR PARTY is in utter turmoil and is in a shambolic state.

Labour lost control of East Lothian Council because of its incompetence and its handling of the former Chief Executive`s so called "redundancy"

Its former councillors are supposedly behind the move to oust Anne Moffat

In this time of economic hardship they should concentrate on helping people in East Lothian, not fighting amongst themselves.

That idiot that 'ran' EL council got a ridiculous pay off to leave after making a complete mess of it all.

As Doddie says though, tragically in some parts of Scotland all Labour need to do is pin a rosette on a donkey

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A bit catty from you, Doddie. Don't think there was any real need for your comments on lucky's post.

Anyway, I also come from East Lothian and I haven't heard of a single thing, good or bad, that Ms Moffat has done for the constituency. Which in itself is not good.


Pardon me, but I really can't work out what he's saying.

I was asking (OK, a bit cheekily) for clarification.

But maybe I'm expecting too much from a member of the Labour Party? :cool2:

[steakbake]

Moffat is a controversial character and I think they'd do well to replace her.

Gray, as Lucky points out, has nowt to do with it though but when the muck starts being spread, even the neighbours field can start to smell of *****.

http://www.edinburghsucks.com/2007/05/24/east-lothian-has-an-ignorant-bitch-for-an-mp-anne-moffat/

PS - this is a gem about newly elected member for the Forth Ward, Cammy Day:

http://www.edinburghsucks.com/2008/11/19/labourbnp-the-easter-drylaw-gardens-connection/

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Moffat is a controversial character and I think they'd do well to replace her.

Gray, as Lucky points out, has nowt to do with it though but when the muck starts being spread, even the neighbours field can start to smell of *****.

http://www.edinburghsucks.com/2007/05/24/east-lothian-has-an-ignorant-bitch-for-an-mp-anne-moffat/

PS - this is a gem about newly elected member for the Forth Ward, Cammy Day:

http://www.edinburghsucks.com/2008/11/19/labourbnp-the-easter-drylaw-gardens-connection/



Gray's just nowt but ten pence in the shilling.

Moffat is exactly what Edinburgh Sucks! says she is. I do hope she manages to resist calls for her deselection and fights the seat next time around.

And thank you, sir, for a valuable and wirthy addition to my favourites list!

:devil:

[cabbageandribs1875]

little miss moffat says labour MP's don't like "strong" women http://www.scotsman.com/latestnews/Sexist-Labour-Party--members.4722976.jp

ANNE Moffat, the embattled MP, said yesterday that sexist opponents who did not like "strong women" were responsible for trying to force her out as a Labour candidate.

[Tomsk]

little miss moffat says labour MP's don't like "strong" women http://www.scotsman.com/latestnews/Sexist-Labour-Party--members.4722976.jp

ANNE Moffat, the embattled MP, said yesterday that sexist opponents who did not like "strong women" were responsible for trying to force her out as a Labour candidate.

It's exactly for this sort of thing that I stopped voting Labour about 12 years ago. Nothing the party, especially in Scotland where its record in office during the first years of the Parliament was a disgrace, has done since would induce me back.

[Calvin]

little miss moffat says labour MP's don't like "strong" women http://www.scotsman.com/latestnews/Sexist-Labour-Party--members.4722976.jp

ANNE Moffat, the embattled MP, said yesterday that sexist opponents who did not like "strong women" were responsible for trying to force her out as a Labour candidate.

What an idiot. If was to say "I'm not voting for that Thatcherite guy" it wouldn't be because he was a guy, it'd be because he was a Thatcherite!

I went down to meet Tony Blair with her a few years ago. I liked her then, she seemed nice enough, but since then she has proved herself to be inept and a disgrace to politics. Great for us SNP guys in East Lothian though! :greengrin

[Phil D. Rolls]

little miss moffat says labour MP's don't like "strong" women http://www.scotsman.com/latestnews/Sexist-Labour-Party--members.4722976.jp

ANNE Moffat, the embattled MP, said yesterday that sexist opponents who did not like "strong women" were responsible for trying to force her out as a Labour candidate.

She is a member of a party that actively selects candidates on gender basis, yet somehow feels there is a male conspiracy against her?

Reminds me of a nurse I work with. She claims that patients react badly to her because she is black. She seems totally oblivious to the fact that she is also a crap nurse.

Another time I was listening to a phone conversation on the train (not a peeping tom, you just don't have any choice). This woman had just been made redundant, and claimed it was because she was the only manager from an ethnic minority. Could be true, could also be true that she got the job for that very reason in the first place.

[Mibbes Aye]

Moffat is a controversial character and I think they'd do well to replace her.

Gray, as Lucky points out, has nowt to do with it though but when the muck starts being spread, even the neighbours field can start to smell of *****.

http://www.edinburghsucks.com/2007/05/24/east-lothian-has-an-ignorant-bitch-for-an-mp-anne-moffat/

PS - this is a gem about newly elected member for the Forth Ward, Cammy Day:

http://www.edinburghsucks.com/2008/11/19/labourbnp-the-easter-drylaw-gardens-connection/

I don't know anything about Anne Moffat other than what I've read on here and going by that, she's not very highly thought-of :greengrin

Didn't particularly like the link to 'edinburghsucks' though. The author seems to think that repeatedly calling someone 'ignorant bitch' qualifies as thoughtful criticism when it just comes across as unimaginative, not particularly classy and probably misogynistic.

[Tomsk]

She is a member of a party that actively selects candidates on gender basis, yet somehow feels there is a male conspiracy against her?

Reminds me of a nurse I work with. She claims that patients react badly to her because she is black. She seems totally oblivious to the fact that she is also a crap nurse.

Another time I was listening to a phone conversation on the train (not a peeping tom, you just don't have any choice). This woman had just been made redundant, and claimed it was because she was the only manager from an ethnic minority. Could be true, could also be true that she got the job for that very reason in the first place.

Labour Party constituency lists are full of rubbish like Anne Moffat, selected because of their gender, but also because they've kissed someone's arse for about 200 years, or because they know something smelly about some high party official. The party in Scotland is crawling with them. But you've got to meet the ones that reach the top. Trust me, you would not believe how arrogant some of these no-marks are.

My Westminster MP was one sort for a while. She lived in Royal Terrace -- straight up -- but represented Oxgangs and the likes. Labour of course. She got paid a ministerial salary, a fortune, for doing some old bull checking over legislation passed in the Scottish Parliament -- not that she would have done a stroke herself. She was once asked a long, elaborate question in the House of Commons that basically could be boiled down to do you think you're worth your salary? She got up, said 'yes' and sat back down again. It was the first time she had spoken in the House for about a year.

I asked a female friend once why she had voted for her. 'She's a very talented lady', she replied. Ain't dat de the troof, I thought, I wish I was good enough to sit about doing vuck all for a ministerial salary and a hoose in Royal Terrace.

[monktonharp]

little miss moffat says labour MP's don't like "strong" women http://www.scotsman.com/latestnews/Sexist-Labour-Party--members.4722976.jp

ANNE Moffat, the embattled MP, said yesterday that sexist opponents who did not like "strong women" were responsible for trying to force her out as a Labour candidate.she is not exactly flavour of the month with unions these days too. A friend of mine,was with a small party of union officials,lobbying Scottish Ministers in parliment (London). After the lobby,they were invited to the "strangers bar" which meant being signed in by an MP. Ms Moffat,got on her tuffit , and decided that my mate was not to be allowed in,as she will not be signing in a "trot". the union party were disgusted.

[Tomsk]

she is not exactly flavour of the month with unions these days too. A friend of mine,was with a small party of union officials,lobbying Scottish Ministers in parliment (London). After the lobby,they were invited to the "strangers bar" which meant being signed in by an MP. Ms Moffat,got on her tuffit , and decided that my mate was not to be allowed in,as she will not be signing in a "trot". the union party were disgusted.

Maybe it was the Trots that assaulted her and stole her jewelry. We never did find out who did that. Although, I understand the Lothian and Borders are not pursuing the matter any more. Makes you think. :hmmm:

[monktonharp]

Maybe it was the Trots that assaulted her and stole her jewelry. We never did find out who did that. Although, I understand the Lothian and Borders are not pursuing the matter any more. Makes you think. :hmmm:aye,you could be right,can see the connection.................trotsky police force denies being in bed with union officials,and denying human rights to young upstanding ,honest politician.:duck:

[Calvin]

Maybe it was the Trots that assaulted her and stole her jewelry. We never did find out who did that. Although, I understand the Lothian and Borders are not pursuing the matter any more. Makes you think. :hmmm:
I have to say that an assault blamed on a fictional Port Seton gang with no suspects, no evidence and no enquiry has no fact.

[Tomsk]

I have to say that an assault blamed on a fictional Port Seton gang with no suspects, no evidence and no enquiry has no fact.

It's certainly a two-pipe problem and I dare say well beyond the reach of your bog-standard PC Plod.

One thing we can be sure of, there's definitely something fishy going on. :wink:

[lyonhibs]

I have to say that an assault blamed on a fictional Port Seton gang with no suspects, no evidence and no enquiry has no fact.

So you're saying that Anne Moffat - regardless of how ****ty a MP she may be - is wasting police time and beating herself up whilst walking her dog, just for err.... dramatic effect??? :dunno:

[Jonnyboy]

So you're saying that Anne Moffat - regardless of how ****ty a MP she may be - is wasting police time and beating herself up whilst walking her dog, just for err.... dramatic effect??? :dunno:

Jeezo, the Labour Party's in an even bigger mess than I thought it was :greengrin

[Tomsk]

So you're saying that Anne Moffat - regardless of how ****ty a MP she may be - is wasting police time and beating herself up whilst walking her dog, just for err.... dramatic effect??? :dunno:

I am sure Calvino can stand up for himself but as it happens he didn't say any of that. He did state some facts that from Ms Moffat's point of view need explanations that so far have not been forthcoming. The case is so bereft of facts, witnesses and evidence that the polis are not pursuing it any further. We can all draw our own conclusions but don't put words into people's mouths.