Where can I watch CBS, NBC or Fox channels tonight?

[Hibbyradge]

Obama has boiught 30 mins of prime time TV for an "infomercial".

I'd like to watch it.

[Simon70]

For legal reasons (such as their tendency to advertise prescription drugs on TV) you don't get the American ads on the UK feed of Fox News. I'm sure you'll get it later on the Obama webiste though. www.barackobama.com

[hibsdaft]

totally outrageous situation imo, buying a chunk of TV for propaganda. if this was the Republicans people in the UK and the rest of the world would be making a masssive deal about this. don't get me wrong, its legal over there so fair game, but totally unhealthy for democracy.

i also fear it may backfire (if not in the next week, then in four years time when the democrats return to being totally outgunned financially).

either way i hope the UK never ends with this form of pathetic democracy.

[hibbybrian]

either way i hope the UK never ends with this form of pathetic democracy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1979_Scottish_devolution_referendum :devil:

[Hibbyradge]

totally outrageous situation imo, buying a chunk of TV for propaganda. if this was the Republicans people in the UK and the rest of the world would be making a masssive deal about this. .

The Republicans don't need to buy advertising, they just steal elections.


don't get me wrong, its legal over there so fair game, but totally unhealthy for democracy.




I know what you're getting at but what's the alternative?

We can't have equally funded parties, or the minnows would undeservedly get the same exposure as the big 2.

The reason the Democrats are so much richer this time round, is because there are more people who want them to win.

That's not always been the case.




i also fear it may backfire (if not in the next week, then in four years time when the democrats return to being totally outgunned financially).



If Obama is popular in 4 years, they won't be out muscled financially.




either way i hope the UK never ends with this form of pathetic democracy.

Too late. We've got the same situation here, just not to the same scale.

[Sergey]

Obama has boiught 30 mins of prime time TV for an "infomercial".

I'd like to watch it.

:shocked:

An Admin asking for illegal links :devil:

[ScapeGoat]

And this the self-proclaimed greatest democracy in the world.

Something wrong when you can buy your way to the White House.

Surely the spending should be monitored and capped to ensure a modicum of fairness.

[Hibbyradge]

:shocked:

An Admin asking for illegal links :devil:

:na na:

I was hoping someone would point out a satelite channel I could access on my TV.

I expected someone to answer USA.

I got a PM for an illegal link. :wink:

[hibsdaft]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1979_Scottish_devolution_referendum :devil:

do you mean the referendum itself or was there similar tv propaganda or something?

re Hibbyradge:

i'm not making out the UK setup to be great by any means, but this situation over there is ludicrous. you say Obama has had this money because more people want the Democrats to win, two words though: Ross Perot!

if it had been him or W.Bush doing this we would never hear the end of it, but the criticism is just not there because almost all of us outside the US want to see Obama beat McCorpse + S.Plain (including myself).

as you say the R's may just steal the election which is easy to do with no paper trail, it makes my blood boil when they talk about copying the US system over here with these dodgy machines, are they out of their minds? the US polling day setup is like something out the third world, with 4 hr long queues, lost votes. and people here want to copy it? mad.:grr:

btw did Obama take $m's from big business in the end? am i right in saying that when he started out he said he wouldn't?

[Hibbyradge]

btw did Obama take $m's from big business in the end? am i right in saying that when he started out he said he wouldn't?

Quite the opposite, actually.

He said that he wasn't going to take public money for his campaign.

Which freed him to accept to private donations. :agree:

[HibsMax]

maybe we should wait until AFTER viewing said program before calling it outragesous or whatever. :wink:

[hibsdaft]

Obama could walk on water on the show tbh it wouldn't matter, its the principle of being allowed to buy such massive TV time, the result is no different to when dictators control state TV for the their own propaganda.

[Hibbyradge]

Obama could walk on water on the show tbh it wouldn't matter, its the principle of being allowed to buy such massive TV time, the result is no different to when dictators control state TV for the their own propaganda.

I guess 30 minutes every 4 years is a wee bitty different to that. :wink:

[HibsMax]

Obama could walk on water on the show tbh it wouldn't matter, its the principle of being allowed to buy such massive TV time, the result is no different to when dictators control state TV for the their own propaganda.
it's completely different but you don't really need me to tell you that or how.

[hibsdaft]

I guess 30 minutes every 4 years is a wee bitty different to that. :wink:


its the principle of being allowed to buy such massive TV time

:wink:

[Sergio sledge]

Quite the opposite, actually.

He said that he wasn't going to take public money for his campaign.

Which freed him to accept to private donations. :agree:

But he initially said he was going to take public money, then realising he could raise so much more than McCain by not taking it, he chose to go down the route of fund raising from public businesses. I think I'm right in saying McCain is limited to spending $80-$90m in the last 3 months, whereas Obama can spend whatever he raises because he decided not to take public money.

I also think I am right in saying he is the 1st presidential candidate since the Watergate affair not to take public money. It is generally the done thing to try to even out the race and make it about policies and not how much money you have. Obama is buying this election, no doubt about it. The ironic thing is, he doesn't need to, McCain and Palin seem to be doing a good job of losing it themselves...:greengrin

[Hibbyradge]

But he initially said he was going to take public money, then realising he could raise so much more than McCain by not taking it, he chose to go down the route of fund raising from public businesses. I think I'm right in saying McCain is limited to spending $80-$90m in the last 3 months, whereas Obama can spend whatever he raises because he decided not to take public money.

I also think I am right in saying he is the 1st presidential candidate since the Watergate affair not to take public money. It is generally the done thing to try to even out the race and make it about policies and not how much money you have. Obama is buying this election, no doubt about it. The ironic thing is, he doesn't need to, McCain and Palin seem to be doing a good job of losing it themselves...:greengrin

It's important for the world that the Republicans don't get a third term and Obama needs a good lead going into polling day to ensure victory.

Otherwise, we'll be in court for a few weeks and we all know who appointed the Supreme court judges.

[CRAZYHIBBY]

IMO I cant see America having a black president ...and even if they do it will be a matter of time before some mad white supremacist group assasinate him.......shame cos i actually like the guy

[Hibbyradge]

IMO I cant see America having a black president ...and even if they do it will be a matter of time before some mad white supremacist group assasinate him.......shame cos i actually like the guy

Even though he's black, you mean?

[Dashing Bob S]

totally outrageous situation imo, buying a chunk of TV for propaganda. if this was the Republicans people in the UK and the rest of the world would be making a masssive deal about this. don't get me wrong, its legal over there so fair game, but totally unhealthy for democracy.

i also fear it may backfire (if not in the next week, then in four years time when the democrats return to being totally outgunned financially).

either way i hope the UK never ends with this form of pathetic democracy.

Agreed. It's fun to see a right-wing party being financially outgunned, but the system is still unfair and corrupt and should be changed.