Have any drug cheats been caught at the Olympics yet?

[Hibbyradge]

I haven't been following the Olympics too closely so apologies if I've missed a big story but has anyone disgraced themselves because of performance enhancing drugs yet?

[wazoo1875]

I haven't been following the Olympics too closely so apologies if I've missed a big story but has anyone disgraced themselves because of performance enhancing drugs yet?
The only one i've heard of so far was a Spaniard think he/she was a cyclist . It's been awful quiet on the doping front , maybe they are starting to learn :greengrin

[mim]

I haven't been following the Olympics too closely so apologies if I've missed a big story but has anyone disgraced themselves because of performance enhancing drugs yet?

A couple of Greeks, iirc

[Coco Bryce]

Aye, that guy that won the 100m was definately on speed :greengrin

[Hibercelona]

Aye, that guy that won the 100m was definately on speed :greengrin

Do you think Ivan ever was? :devil:

[s.a.m]

4 or 5 now, I think.

[NYHibby]

A Korean shooter too

[Coco Bryce]

A Korean shooter too

Seriously?

What benefit would drugs give you to shoot better :confused:

[Austinho]

Seriously?

What benefit would drugs give you to shoot better :confused:He used beta blockers which slows the heart rate and lowers blood pressure - apparently prevents you getting the shakes, so ideal for shooting.

[NYHibby]

Seriously?

What benefit would drugs give you to shoot better :confused:

My guess is that it would make you steadier thus improving your aim.

[Sir David Gray]

Seriously?

What benefit would drugs give you to shoot better :confused:

Maybe no benefit but would you like to tell someone who was high on drugs and in possession of a firearm that he had failed to get a medal!?

Nah, me neither! :greengrin

[Coco Bryce]

He used beta blockers which slows the heart rate and lowers blood pressure - apparently prevents you getting the shakes, so ideal for shooting.

Ah right enough, that would makes sense :agree:

[heretoday]

i'm very surprised there have been no drug busts. I'm a little suspicious too given the huge amounts of finance and international prestige that depend on this Games - and London - being a PR success. I can't believe all those athletes have suddenly turned over a new leaf and stopped trying to win at all costs.

[Rossco442]

i'm very surprised there have been no drug busts. I'm a little suspicious too given the huge amounts of finance and international prestige that depend on this Games - and London - being a PR success. I can't believe all those athletes have suddenly turned over a new leaf and stopped trying to win at all costs.

Surely this would make the organisers more likely to cover up any bust and keep it quiet?

[JimBHibees]

Think the Ivan Drago lookalike in the Womens Hepathlon has failed a test. She was completely massive and breaking personal bests at every turn won the silver.

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If you want to read about Olympic cover ups including hiding drug test results search for Andrew Jennings on amazon.

You may remember him from a documentary a couple of years ago on the BBC (Panorama?) when he investigated the corruption of Jack Warner and FIFA.

Before he started looking into football, he went after the Olympics (he still does!), producing three books on Olympic corruption. Everything from bribing delegates to make sure a bid city wins the games to positive drug test results being 'stolen' from a hotel room in LA in 84 iirc.

Hiding positive dope tests was one way the IOC had of keeping the games credible. As I say this is from memory but there was a very high number of positive tests (well into double figures) amongst the medallists in track and field in 84. When you understand the lavish lifestyles that senior IOC members enjoyed it is easy to understand how they would want their 'business' to appear as cleaner than clean to the massive sponsorships they were starting to rake in.

It is all very depressing when you start to look under the cover. If you want to be thoroughly depressed have a look at Jennings's web site where you will find many on going incidents that will be 'overlooked' by the mainstream British media as we head towards 2012.

http://www.transparencyinsport.org/

[sam armstrong]

I haven't been following the Olympics too closely so apologies if I've missed a big story but has anyone disgraced themselves because of performance enhancing drugs yet?

The silver medalist for Heptathalon just been caught.
Problem is the cheats have more money than the testers and are generally ahead of the game.

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If you want to read about Olympic cover ups including hiding drug test results search for Andrew Jennings on amazon.

You may remember him from a documentary a couple of years ago on the BBC (Panorama?) when he investigated the corruption of Jack Warner and FIFA.

Before he started looking into football, he went after the Olympics (he still does!), producing three books on Olympic corruption. Everything from bribing delegates to make sure a bid city wins the games to positive drug test results being 'stolen' from a hotel room in LA in 84 iirc.

Hiding positive dope tests was one way the IOC had of keeping the games credible. As I say this is from memory but there was a very high number of positive tests (well into double figures) amongst the medallists in track and field in 84. When you understand the lavish lifestyles that senior IOC members enjoyed it is easy to understand how they would want their 'business' to appear as cleaner than clean to the massive sponsorships they were starting to rake in.

It is all very depressing when you start to look under the cover. If you want to be thoroughly depressed have a look at Jennings's web site where you will find many on going incidents that will be 'overlooked' by the mainstream British media as we head towards 2012.

http://www.transparencyinsport.org/


Yup.

The IOC have a vested interest in covering up the cheating.

The athletes have a vested interest in covering up the cheating.

The national athletics authorities have a vested interest in covering up cheating.

Which is why, for example, we could have Dwayne Chambers, a convicted drugs cheat, demanding the 'right' to compete at Beijing and nearly winning his case.

And Christine Ohoruogu, who mysteriously 'missed' three scheduled drugs checks but has never been caught with illegal substances in her system (could these two facts possibly be connected somehow?) winning a gold medal - and the entire British nation falling down in admiration....

For example. Which is why I find it so hard to take events like athletics and cycling seriously.

And your link may just have terminally scunnered me with football....

[lobster]

Anyone for a separate Olympics for the athletes that take performance enhancing drugs? Could be interesting :offski:

[NYHibby]

The silver medalist for Heptathlon just been caught.
Problem is the cheats have more money than the testers and are generally ahead of the game.

This means that the girl from my hometown will move up and get the silver.

[heretoday]

Surely this would make the organisers more likely to cover up any bust and keep it quiet?

Sorry, that is what I mean!

[cabbageandribs1875]

4 horses found with banned drugs(neigh jokin) in the showjumping.

[Onceinawhile]

4 horses have just been caught for taking a banned drug and have been suspended from the individual show jumping.

a norwegian, an irish and a german horse have all been suspended

[Sergio sledge]

And Christine Ohoruogu, who mysteriously 'missed' three scheduled drugs checks but has never been caught with illegal substances in her system (could these two facts possibly be connected somehow?) winning a gold medal - and the entire British nation falling down in admiration....

Ah yes, you have decided she is a drugs cheat based on what?

I suppose you have chosen to ignore the fact that 3 seperate hearings by UK Sport, the BOA and the Court of Arbitration for Sport decided that she was only guilty of forgetfulness, and not in any way deliberately trying to avoid the drugs test? I suppose the fact that she was tested 9 days before and 3 days after one of the missed tests, and was found to have no traces of banned substances in her system, is completely irrelevant to you?

But she is an athlete, so she must be a drugs cheat.:yawn:

Seems in every other walk of life people are innocent until proven guilty, except in athletics where even if all the evidence says she is innocent, she is still assumed to be guilty......

[The_Horde]

That bolt must be on something i tell yee.

[GhostofBolivar]

Ah yes, you have decided she is a drugs cheat based on what?

I suppose you have chosen to ignore the fact that 3 seperate hearings by UK Sport, the BOA and the Court of Arbitration for Sport decided that she was only guilty of forgetfulness, and not in any way deliberately trying to avoid the drugs test? I suppose the fact that she was tested 9 days before and 3 days after one of the missed tests, and was found to have no traces of banned substances in her system, is completely irrelevant to you?

But she is an athlete, so she must be a drugs cheat.:yawn:

Seems in every other walk of life people are innocent until proven guilty, except in athletics where even if all the evidence says she is innocent, she is still assumed to be guilty......

Based on having missed 3 tests - an offence which is regarded as a positive test.

Wilfully or not, she broke the rules of her sport and the evidence said she was guilty. Whether or not that means she should have been banned from the Olympics is the matter for debate.

[Gatecrasher]

phelps said he had been tested at least 40 times during his time in china

[NaeTechnoHibby]

FWIW there is a broad spectrum of ages with the medal winners, which to me suggests that this is the least 'doped-up' games in recent years, hopefully :agree:

[Danderhall Hibs]

Ah yes, you have decided she is a drugs cheat based on what?

I suppose you have chosen to ignore the fact that 3 seperate hearings by UK Sport, the BOA and the Court of Arbitration for Sport decided that she was only guilty of forgetfulness, and not in any way deliberately trying to avoid the drugs test? I suppose the fact that she was tested 9 days before and 3 days after one of the missed tests, and was found to have no traces of banned substances in her system, is completely irrelevant to you?

But she is an athlete, so she must be a drugs cheat.:yawn:

Seems in every other walk of life people are innocent until proven guilty, except in athletics where even if all the evidence says she is innocent, she is still assumed to be guilty......


There's advice in there somewhere I think. Are you saying next time someone's in court they should forget to go, thus they can never be found guilty and therefore they are (at least in your eyes) innocent. Clever. :agree:

[robinp]

I told you so.....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/olympic_games/7658852.stm

http://www.hibs.net/message/showpost.php?p=1685651&postcount=4

Not a surprise it's taken the IOC this long to notice there is a new drug in town.....cycling were testing for it during the Tour de France. :cool2: