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Toaods
01-06-2008, 01:06 PM
I see the police have released without charge the father of the two murdered London kids.

The mother is still being held and the 6 month old remains critical in hospital, but with police not asking for anyone to come forward with any comments/statements it appears this may be a sad case of a mum cracking up.

Although unsubstantiated opinion from me there- I know are occassions when a young baby can drive you nuts and maybe the worst possible outcome has occured in this saga.


Any parents out there laying claim to never having been teetering on the brink or is it just standard parenting, ie managing to overcome the sheer frustration of it all??

fergal7
01-06-2008, 01:19 PM
I always say to my son that if his sister was born 1st, he would never have been born.:greengrin

I know it can drive you mad and evil thoughts can creep into your head when your pacing the room at 3 in the morning for the umpteenth time, you have to fight through it.

However, anyone who kills their kids must need serious help.

Toaods
01-06-2008, 01:30 PM
I always say to my son that if his sister was born 1st, he would never have been born.:greengrin

I know it can drive you mad and evil thoughts can creep into your head when your pacing the room at 3 in the morning for the umpteenth time, you have to fight through it.

However, anyone who kills their kids must need serious help.


I don't think there's any doubt that everyone is aware of that......:wink:

Jay
01-06-2008, 04:25 PM
I've never teetered on the brink of seriously hurting one of my kids but when I had 4 very young kids and was on my own a lot of the time there was occassions I would have to go into the kitchen and shut the door for 5 mins. My youngest didn't sleep and I was seriously sleep deprived but I think the overwhelming love you have for your child stops any bad thoughts.

I too have said that if my youngest was first born he would have been an only child! I think God gave me him as a way of telling me 4 kids was enough :greengrin

If it is post natal depression then it is even sadder because with the right help and support it all could so easily have been avoided. PND is one of the least supported (and believed) conditions around. I was very lucky not to have suffered from it but have a friend who did.

Toaods
01-06-2008, 04:40 PM
I've never teetered on the brink of seriously hurting one of my kids but when I had 4 very young kids and was on my own a lot of the time there was occassions I would have to go into the kitchen and shut the door for 5 mins. My youngest didn't sleep and I was seriously sleep deprived but I think the overwhelming love you have for your child stops any bad thoughts.

I too have said that if my youngest was first born he would have been an only child! I think God gave me him as a way of telling me 4 kids was enough :greengrin

If it is post natal depression then it is even sadder because with the right help and support it all could so easily have been avoided. PND is one of the least supported (and believed) conditions around. I was very lucky not to have suffered from it but have a friend who did.

we tried the leaving the room technique - nae luck , she followed.

We then reversed it and put her out - it was like the Spartan Army trying to break back into our living room........:grr:.

Our neighbours all like her but most knew when it was tantrum time.....think the lying on her back on the pavement as Mum tried to get away was the sign...........:dummytit:

Jay
01-06-2008, 06:19 PM
we tried the leaving the room technique - nae luck , she followed.

We then reversed it and put her out - it was like the Spartan Army trying to break back into our living room........:grr:.

Our neighbours all like her but most knew when it was tantrum time.....think the lying on her back on the pavement as Mum tried to get away was the sign...........:dummytit:

I used to close the door and sit against it. :agree:

Its worse now they are older though as the 4 of them argue and wind each other up constantly leading to full on fist fights and screaming at me that one did this or another did that while they all deny doing anything! I find it harder to control myself now with my oldest - he knows the buttons to push to cause an absolute riot in here and sits back and enjoys the chaos. There are times I have advised him to lock himself in the bathroom for 5 mins while I calm down:agree: Splitting up 4 boys who are fighting or egging each other on can be a tad stressfull at times. :boo hoo:

Toaods
01-06-2008, 08:11 PM
I used to close the door and sit against it. :agree:

me too - think of the power needed to budge a door with my frame leaning against it - I tell you these wee angels become :devil: 's at times.

Jay
01-06-2008, 09:11 PM
me too - think of the power needed to budge a dorr with my frame leaning against it - I tell you these wee angels become :devil: 's at times.

Yep - as much as I love them the older they get the harder work they are but I still wouldn't change a thing about any of them

Sergio sledge
02-06-2008, 08:17 AM
Yep - as much as I love them the older they get the harder work they are but I still wouldn't change a thing about any of them

Don't say that......:boo hoo: I've got a 2 month old baby and thought this bringing up children thing was a dawdle. Mind you, I'm out at work all day while the wife has to deal with nappies, crying and feeds....:greengrin

Toaods
02-06-2008, 10:01 PM
Don't say that......:boo hoo: I've got a 2 month old baby and thought this bringing up children thing was a dawdle. Mind you, I'm out at work all day while the wife has to deal with nappies, crying and feeds....:greengrin



hahahahahhhhhhhhhhhhh.......that's the easy stage.