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Sylar
28-03-2008, 03:53 PM
I noticed today on the BBC that a terrorist, who was arrested at Luton airport with blueprints for making a rocket, documents on martyrdom and weapons manufacture has been released back into society :bitchy:.

I very much doubt his hatred for the West would have diminshed during his period of incarceration and i'm dubious that he has "met release criteria on the grounds of him having not committed a violent crime" - is it just me, or does this seem incredibly niave?!

If someone is convicted of a crime under the Terrorism Act, they should be detained for life or deported IMO - not held in prison and then released back into the very society they showed intention of damaging with an increased hate due to time ******ing in jail!

Thoughts?

p.s. - why is the word f.e.s.t.e.r.i.n.g censored?!

Haymaker
28-03-2008, 04:01 PM
I will bet MI6 will follow him everywhere till he dies.

GlesgaeHibby
28-03-2008, 06:06 PM
I will bet MI6 will follow him everywhere till he dies.

I doubt it somehow, be the fact that theres bugger all room in prisons and labour aren't willing to invest :bitchy:

ginger_eejit
29-03-2008, 02:09 AM
I noticed today on the BBC that a terrorist, who was arrested at Luton airport with blueprints for making a rocket, documents on martyrdom and weapons manufacture has been released back into society :bitchy:.

I very much doubt his hatred for the West would have diminshed during his period of incarceration and i'm dubious that he has "met release criteria on the grounds of him having not committed a violent crime" - is it just me, or does this seem incredibly niave?!

If someone is convicted of a crime under the Terrorism Act, they should be detained for life or deported IMO - not held in prison and then released back into the very society they showed intention of damaging with an increased hate due to time ******ing in jail!

Thoughts?

p.s. - why is the word f.e.s.t.e.r.i.n.g censored?!

Due to the jumbos referring to the Holy Ground as F.e.s.t.e.r Road

Jack
29-03-2008, 08:28 AM
To be fair it was only 2 or 3 weeks early. I agree anyone who wants to even think about blowing up innocent folk, woman and kids, can bugger off and those who actually take it further should be deported, or better still shot.

Mibbes Aye
29-03-2008, 08:53 AM
Just out of curiosity, where do you deport someone to if they're a British citizen born in this country?

Would you want someone convicted of terrorist offences in another country deported here?

Sylar
29-03-2008, 09:24 AM
I only suggested deported in this particular case because i thought the article had said he was originally from Palestine - that's not the case, and it turns out the blueprints for his rockets were Palestinian - turns out he is indeed from Ealing, London.

If someone had plotted an attack against the UK, surely there are methods via which they can be simply removed from the UK and to hell with them if they're left with nowhere to go? Terrorism is just as big (if not a bigger) crime than treason IMO (although plotting to blow up UK citizens when this guy is from the UK? What is that if not a crime against one's own country!) yet the hanging is still legal for acts of treason (correct me if i'm wrong).

These fanatical b4stards should face death for their heinous crimes, whether they have been successful in their aims or caught before they have a chance to manifest themselves.

Jack
29-03-2008, 10:47 AM
Where to deport British citizens is indeed a difficult one so shooting / hanging would be much simpler.

They see it as a war and in wars people get killed.

Normally it’s the combatants that go out for each other but these cowards / terrorists target innocent people.

They have absolutely no regard for human life in this country, for human rights so I see no good reason to afford them any.

They would sooner kill me and/or my family and/or my friends than live at peace with me. I therefore see no good reason to afford them the benefits of living in my country, the benefits of human rights or indeed the benefit of life itself.

Fk I've never been as serious as this for years.

CropleyWasGod
29-03-2008, 11:04 AM
Going to play Devil's Advocate here.....

What is the difference between releasing this guy, and releasing people like Michael Stone, Patrick Magee etc., all of whom have killed and maimed "innocents", who have (and, arguably, still do have) a hatred of those who have different views to them and who, if circumstances allowed, would probably do so again?

Betty Boop
29-03-2008, 12:20 PM
Going to play Devil's Advocate here.....

What is the difference between releasing this guy, and releasing people like Michael Stone, Patrick Magee etc., all of whom have killed and maimed "innocents", who have (and, arguably, still do have) a hatred of those who have different views to them and who, if circumstances allowed, would probably do so again?Absolutely no difference whatsoever.:agree:

Jack
29-03-2008, 12:35 PM
Absolutely no difference whatsoever.:agree:

Yeah, I'll go with that.

ginger_eejit
29-03-2008, 11:41 PM
Treason downgraded to life imprisonment in 98

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7288516.stm