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17-09-2017 10:52 AM #271
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17-09-2017 10:53 AM #272This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Why do you dislike him so much?"There's class, there's first class and there's Hibs class" - Eddie Turnbull
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17-09-2017 11:03 AM #273This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I don't dislike him at all, I don't even know him. I love it how you are doing all the question and answering for him, yet HE promised that HE could do better at communication, and we had his word on that.
What he never said was he'd get someone else to do it for him.
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17-09-2017 11:10 AM #274This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Frank's not bothered by your criticism of him, I am curious for myself, not for Frank.....
He and Tracey work in tandem, as Tracey has said, however, you choose to not accept or choose to ignore"There's class, there's first class and there's Hibs class" - Eddie Turnbull
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17-09-2017 11:16 AM #275This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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17-09-2017 11:17 AM #276This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote"There's class, there's first class and there's Hibs class" - Eddie Turnbull
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17-09-2017 11:20 AM #277This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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17-09-2017 11:21 AM #278This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
So to then pass that on to someone else is a cop out, but one i expected from previous years.
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17-09-2017 11:22 AM #279This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote"There's class, there's first class and there's Hibs class" - Eddie Turnbull
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17-09-2017 11:24 AM #280This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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17-09-2017 11:27 AM #281This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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17-09-2017 12:38 PM #282
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They should both resign but its not going to happen as they're both clearly not able to admit what they did was wrong.
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17-09-2017 12:50 PM #283This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
When it came the the vote they have to do their duty as board members meaning they make a decision in the best interests of the club based on the evidence they have. They fulfilled that duty as well.
I think it was the wrong decision but if everybody who are demanding justice actually got themselves organised to do something concrete, (Crowd funding, engage their own lawyers etc) instead of simply attacking our own club then something might be achieved. It's the SFA we should be attacking, not our own.Last edited by marinello59; 17-09-2017 at 01:01 PM.
Every gimmick hungry yob,
Digging gold from rock and roll
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He'll die before he's sold.
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17-09-2017 12:54 PM #284This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote"There's class, there's first class and there's Hibs class" - Eddie Turnbull
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17-09-2017 01:08 PM #285
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17-09-2017 01:12 PM #286
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17-09-2017 01:22 PM #287This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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17-09-2017 01:37 PM #288This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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17-09-2017 01:41 PM #289This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I really don't think there is anywhere near as big a majority consensus on this as some believe. A few of the guys that sit around me at ER are older and don't do social media or forums. Of the 5 I spoke to yesterday 3 didn't have a clue what I was talking about and 2 didn't care. A (non Hibs) Facebook page put up a picture of the banner from yesterdays game and the comments were split about 50/50 between 'you don't speak for me' and 'good on you'.
It's the fundemental issue with fans reps. The very idea that 2 people can accurately reflect the wishes of all, or even a majority of Hibs fans, is faintly ridiculous.PM Awards General Poster of The Year 2015, 2016, 2017. Probably robbed in other years
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17-09-2017 02:01 PM #290This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show QuoteEvery gimmick hungry yob,
Digging gold from rock and roll
Grabs the mic to tell us,
He'll die before he's sold.
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17-09-2017 02:07 PM #291This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote"There's class, there's first class and there's Hibs class" - Eddie Turnbull
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17-09-2017 02:29 PM #292This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show QuoteEvery gimmick hungry yob,
Digging gold from rock and roll
Grabs the mic to tell us,
He'll die before he's sold.
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17-09-2017 02:53 PM #293This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Tracey (Frank) made it clear in the July posts that our reps will be bringing this up on 31st July's board meeting as a result of all the concern that fans had expressed. The July hibs.net poll was an additional clear indicator as well as the overwhelming majority comments here and on the Bounce.
I spoke to the seven ST holders near me yesterday and they were all unhappy with the boards 'unanimous view'. More so the fact we were not asked our opinion at all. Only our two elected reps had some engagement with the supporters and that seems to have been subverted at the July meeting. There's no doubt from Tracey's post on this subject that the reps were going to bring this up from the position of wanting something done about the cheating.
I can accept reps may have to occasionally vote other than what's considered the majority view if they are privy to some top secret sensitive information at the meeting. However, this should then be explained .
I can't imagine what secret info that could be so sensitive to Hibs as we're talking about another outfit who had been caught cheating.
Tracey and Frank both accept it was a big mistake to keep silent after the 31st July 'unanimous view' . In which case surely if it was a mistake not to explain things then it's important to do so now.
We just want to know what happened and why. No need to disclose secret info just an explanation would do!!!Last edited by Johnny Clash; 17-09-2017 at 03:06 PM.
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17-09-2017 03:05 PM #294
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17-09-2017 03:15 PM #295This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
These 2 points are a bit contradictory aren't they?
also, isn't it just a little bit arrogant to say that since you can't imagine information so sensitive, it therefore can't exist?
You've said there wasn't a vote on this occasion, there was a board discussion, several presumably. Over the course of those discussions, they've come to a final position. What then did anyone expect the board's statement to say? "Some of us think this but more think that, so that's what we've decided to do"? Of course the statement will say they are unanimous, anything else would be folly.
Many people are upset with and disagree with the statement and the position it describes, to lash out at the reps isnt fair. They were elected to represent the fans, some don't seem to want to let them to do that.
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17-09-2017 03:19 PM #296
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It's funny how folk who want to "move on" only really know or speak to folk who feel the same and vice versa.
I agree with you on the issue of fans reps. What their role is is far too wooly. Club ambassadors would be a better name for them.
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17-09-2017 03:21 PM #297
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17-09-2017 03:22 PM #298
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17-09-2017 03:25 PM #299This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Also, it was Tracey who said in a previous post there wasn't a vote. I''m therefore assuming Tracey's right - there was no vote.Last edited by Johnny Clash; 17-09-2017 at 03:29 PM.
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17-09-2017 03:26 PM #300This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
As for what sensitive information could have swayed supposed reps to take a position - that they cannot credibly claim to be the clearly expressed view of the people who elected them - I only imagine this being the case if the 'sensitive information' would compromise the club or individuals at the club.
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