Whittaker

**theonlywayisup** · 20-12-2018 07:30 AM

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Well I mean it's not. He either dives in and is beaten or backs off and let's people into the box then doesn't tackle. He's a poor defender. He shouldn't be anywhere near the team and the only reason that he is because Gray and mavrias are out. I can't believe what people say about him. Clearly watching a different player to me.

Well let's agree to disagree. You'll see on this thread that there's a real mix of opinions.

I feel you get posters who can only see the negatives and those who only see the positives. The reality is somewhere in between.

**Phil MaGlass** · 20-12-2018 07:45 AM

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Thought Whittaker looked a class above at times last night as he did against Celtic. Amazing how people see things differently.

Thats how I saw it, he also has good awareness and an eye for movement, he made a couple of mistakes but so did most of the team, Mallan was bad though. 2 tough games in the space of a few days. He bust a gut last nite and Im glad he plays for us.

**Booked4Being-Ugly** · 20-12-2018 07:50 AM

Not his biggest fan but credit where it's due - he was excellent against Celtic and was one of the better players against the Huns last night.

**FRes Hibbie** · 20-12-2018 09:21 AM

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Did a couple of daft things that you do not expect from a player of his great experience but largely got away with it you can tell his legs are going and his great strength as a young man was his speed and his speed of recovery : pass marks

No it wasn't. Granted he's slower now than ten years ago but he has never been fast and has always been a dodgy defender.

His great strength is that he's a good footballer, two footed, good passer and has a good touch. That's what makes him an asset going forward.

**MWHIBBIES** · 20-12-2018 09:23 AM

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No it wasn't. Granted he's slower now than ten years ago but he has never been fast and has always been a dodgy defender.

His great strength is that he's a good footballer, two footed, good passer and has a good touch. That's what makes him an asset going forward.

Indeed. He is really good with both feet. Pass he made to Shaw at the end of the first half that lead to Horgan's chance was exceptional. He's always been better technically than physically.

**pacoluna** · 20-12-2018 09:25 AM

One of the best passers of a ball in our team. He has the ability to take 3/4 players out of the game with one pass.

***blackpoolhibs*** · 20-12-2018 10:34 AM

Part of a defence that have had 2 clean sheets against the 2 best teams in Scotland, not bad with no legs.

Whittaker is a very good squad player, who has filled in because we have been ravaged by injuries throughout the whole squad.

***BILLYHIBS*** · 20-12-2018 11:22 AM

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No it wasn't. Granted he's slower now than ten years ago but he has never been fast and has always been a dodgy defender.

His great strength is that he's a good footballer, two footed, good passer and has a good touch. That's what makes him an asset going forward.

OK! We agree he is slower now than he was ten years ago

He is also very good going forward

I remember at the time he was praised as an attacking full back but was criticised for being suspect defensively not just at our club but at other clubs

As it stands just now he is a valuable experienced member of our squad and is useful in that he has looked after himself and can slot into various positions as required

He did ok last night apart from one defensive slip in the first half when he allowed the Croatian guy a clear run on goal

Very good going forward enjoyed his nutmeg in the second half

Squad player!

***matty_f*** · 20-12-2018 11:25 AM

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Part of a defence that have had 2 clean sheets against the 2 best teams in Scotland, not bad with no legs.

Whittaker is a very good squad player, who has filled in because we have been ravaged by injuries throughout the whole squad.

He was good last night, imho. It was probably his hardest game of the season and he did fine.

***Stuart93*** · 20-12-2018 11:25 AM

Originally Posted by BILLYHIBS

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OK! We agree he is slower now than he was ten years ago

He is also very good going forward

I remember at the time he was praised as an attacking full back but was criticised for being suspect defensively not just at our club but at other clubs

As it stands just now he is a valuable experienced member of our squad and is useful in that he has looked after himself and can slot into various positions as required

He did ok last night apart from one defensive slip in the first half when he allowed the Croatian guy a clear run on goal

Very good going forward enjoyed his nutmeg in the second half

Squad player!

Sorry mate but he’s not “very good” going forward.

I don’t think he’s great going forward at all especially now that he’s lost a bit of pace.

***BILLYHIBS*** · 20-12-2018 11:29 AM

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Sorry mate but he’s not “very good” going forward.

I don’t think he’s great going forward at all especially now that he’s lost a bit of pace.

Agree was getting way ahead of myself lets just say good

I remember one cross second half Flo was in the middle waiting on a simple nod in but he decides to launch it high and hard to the back post you guessed it no one there

***500miles*** · 20-12-2018 11:59 AM

Whittaker had some good touches and passes last night. Overplayed it on other occasions. Ended up with a thigh strain, and would've been subbed if we hadnt used them up.

**FRes Hibbie** · 20-12-2018 12:16 PM

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OK! We agree he is slower now than he was ten years ago

He is also very good going forward

I remember at the time he was praised as an attacking full back but was criticised for being suspect defensively not just at our club but at other clubs

As it stands just now he is a valuable experienced member of our squad and is useful in that he has looked after himself and can slot into various positions as required

He did ok last night apart from one defensive slip in the first half when he allowed the Croatian guy a clear run on goal

Very good going forward enjoyed his nutmeg in the second half

Squad player!

My point was that “his great strength was speed as a young man” is completely and utterly wrong.

He has qualities but speed isn’t, and hasn’t ever been, one of them.

***BILLYHIBS*** · 20-12-2018 01:16 PM

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My point was that “his great strength was speed as a young man” is completely and utterly wrong.

He has qualities but speed isn’t, and hasn’t ever been, one of them.

You think?

https://youtu.be/mv26UQV64Vo

Looks plenty fast to me as runs past the Sporting defence

Also recommend you look at the video of the 2007 Scottish League Cup Final

Also went onto win a further three League Cups two Scottish Cups and three SPL titles and 31 full Scotland caps

Slow coaches do not play in the EPL

Agreed he was no Ivan Sproule or Arthur Duncan and as I have already said not the greatest defensively

**FRes Hibbie** · 20-12-2018 03:52 PM

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You think?

https://youtu.be/mv26UQV64Vo

Looks plenty fast to me as runs past the Sporting defence

Also recommend you look at the video of the 2007 Scottish League Cup Final

Also went onto win a further three League Cups two Scottish Cups and three SPL titles and 31 full Scotland caps

Slow coaches do not play in the EPL

Agreed he was no Ivan Sproule or Arthur Duncan and as I have already said not the greatest defensively

It’s a fine goal but he’s not beating anyone in a race, he’s skinning them because of his good touch, dribbling and a stinking slide tackle from the defender after he’s actually caught Whittaker up.

As far as the league cup final is concerned, please point out the bit where he’s pacey, it’s not there.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2gH2rQ1DffY

Again, good player, not particularly quick. “His great strength was his speed” is a fabrication.

**A Hi-Bee** · 20-12-2018 04:50 PM

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It’s a fine goal but he’s not beating anyone in a race, he’s skinning them because of his good touch, dribbling and a stinking slide tackle from the defender after he’s actually caught Whittaker up.

As far as the league cup final is concerned, please point out the bit where he’s pacey, it’s not there.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2gH2rQ1DffY

Again, good player, not particularly quick. “His great strength was his speed” is a fabrication.

He is one if not the most technically gifted footballer at our club, great man to have around the squad.

**Tyler Durden** · 20-12-2018 05:21 PM

One thing that helped Whittaker last night was the fact that Grezvda is pretty hopeless. Has he had a goal or assist yet for them? Fastest he ran all night was when he got subbed.

The Rangers are solid at the back and quite tough to play against but their creative midfield options are pretty poor. Their full backs pose a bigger threat

***BILLYHIBS*** · 20-12-2018 06:11 PM

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It’s a fine goal but he’s not beating anyone in a race, he’s skinning them because of his good touch, dribbling and a stinking slide tackle from the defender after he’s actually caught Whittaker up.

As far as the league cup final is concerned, please point out the bit where he’s pacey, it’s not there.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2gH2rQ1DffY

Again, good player, not particularly quick. “His great strength was his speed” is a fabrication.

Them highlights just the goals thought he did well to run from right back to jump on Benjis back for the second

If he was as slow as you suggest do you really think he would have won as much as he has in the game?

Reminds me of the old Bertie Auld story when he slams his medals on the table and says thems my medals where’s yours?

We are lucky to have him

Squad player

PS

Great memory by the way ��

**MWHIBBIES** · 20-12-2018 06:34 PM

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Them highlights just the goals thought he did well to run from right back to jump in Benjis back for the second

If he was as slow as you suggest do you really think he would have won as much as he has in the game?

Reminds me of the old Bertie Auld story when he slams his medals on the table and says thems my medals where’s yours?

Do you really think he would have had such a successful career if was as slow as you suggest?

We are lucky to have him

Squad player

PS

Great memory by the way ��

No one has said he was slow. He just wasn't especially fast. Plenty of players who aren't especially gifted physically had brilliant careers with many medals.

***BILLYHIBS*** · 20-12-2018 06:47 PM

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No one has said he was slow. He just wasn't especially fast. Plenty of players who aren't especially gifted physically had brilliant careers with many medals.

Agree and he is definitely a lot slower than he was ten years ago

**~~The_Horde~~** · 20-12-2018 07:42 PM

When Gray's back I'd be tempted to use him in midfield again when Milligan's gone. Especially if Bartley hasn't come back by then.

**MWHIBBIES** · 20-12-2018 08:42 PM

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When Gray's back I'd be tempted to use him in midfield again when Milligan's gone. Especially if Bartley hasn't come back by then.

No way IMO. Gray has many qualities but I've seen nothing to suggest he could play central midfield. Hanlon maybe.

***Jonnyboy*** · 20-12-2018 08:43 PM

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No way IMO. Gray has many qualities but I've seen nothing to suggest he could play central midfield. Hanlon maybe.

I think DSJ was talking about Whitty

***jacomo*** · 20-12-2018 09:25 PM

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When Gray's back I'd be tempted to use him in midfield again when Milligan's gone. Especially if Bartley hasn't come back by then.

He’s tidy but doesn’t really like to tackle. SW is an ok midfield option but not one to grab the game by the scruff of the neck.

**MWHIBBIES** · 20-12-2018 09:49 PM

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I think DSJ was talking about Whitty

Long day

**~~The_Horde~~** · 20-12-2018 10:02 PM

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He’s tidy but doesn’t really like to tackle. SW is an ok midfield option but not one to grab the game by the scruff of the neck.

Fooled me last night then when he was steaming into challenges. Surround him with enough energy and he'll be fine, best option we have without Bartley and Milligan.

*Whittaker again, btw*

***hibee_girl*** · 21-12-2018 09:25 AM

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**SirDavidsNapper** · 21-12-2018 11:06 AM

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Backs up my thoughts that he played really well

***BILLYHIBS*** · 21-12-2018 11:12 AM

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It’s a fine goal but he’s not beating anyone in a race, he’s skinning them because of his good touch, dribbling and a stinking slide tackle from the defender after he’s actually caught Whittaker up.

As far as the league cup final is concerned, please point out the bit where he’s pacey, it’s not there.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2gH2rQ1DffY

Again, good player, not particularly quick. “His great strength was his speed” is a fabrication.

Hey!

Looking back I have had time to reflect and you were correct he was never the quickest good going forward and suspect defensively

I wish I had his Bank balance though

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year

BillyHibs