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[Bostonhibby]

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Can I join?

I can play the spoons. If they're not loud enough, I can just take my teeth out and use them as a castanet.

Jews harp or just a 10p comb and some Izal toilet paper? All welcome.

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[Eyrie]

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There's got to be a limited edition black, in keeping with our traditions and heritage?

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Then we can look just like all the other Ultr'aged

[Keith_M]

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I'm thinking of starting a Block 65 of moaning old gets.

Could you send me an application form?

[KNBE]

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Some Romany words collected in East Lothian in 1865. Linked to Hindu according to this guy.

Which book is that out of interest?

The link between Hindi (the language, not Hindu the religion) and Romany is that both are Indic languages as the Romanies migrated from India. Hindi for thief is "chor", same as Romany/Edinburgh dialect for example.

One word that always interested me is "callydosh" or "cally" for short, which meant "money" in my 1970s Portobello childhood. Anyone heard of that or still use it?

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[Bostonhibby]

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Which book is that out of interest?

The link between Hindi (the language, not Hindu the religion) and Romany is that both are Indic languages as the Romanies migrated from India. Hindi for thief is "chor", same as Romany/Edinburgh dialect for example.

One word that always interested me is "callydosh" or "cally" for short, which meant "money" in my 1970s Portobello childhood. Anyone heard of that or still use it?

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Definitely a term used in Porty in my youth in the same time frame you are referring to.

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[Carheenlea]

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I'm thinking of starting a Block 65 of moaning old gets.

First meeting to decide on songbook gets heated

[Skol]

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Which book is that out of interest?

The link between Hindi (the language, not Hindu the religion) and Romany is that both are Indic languages as the Romanies migrated from India. Hindi for thief is "chor", same as Romany/Edinburgh dialect for example.

One word that always interested me is "callydosh" or "cally" for short, which meant "money" in my 1970s Portobello childhood. Anyone heard of that or still use it?

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Not heard that in many years and had forgotten about it. Well used in my youth in the 70s and early 80s

[Hibbyradge]

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First meeting to decide on songbook gets heated

[Hibbyradge]

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Which book is that out of interest?

The link between Hindi (the language, not Hindu the religion) and Romany is that both are Indic languages as the Romanies migrated from India. Hindi for thief is "chor", same as Romany/Edinburgh dialect for example.

One word that always interested me is "callydosh" or "cally" for short, which meant "money" in my 1970s Portobello childhood. Anyone heard of that or still use it?

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I used to use cally and callydosh. I've no idea of the etymology.

[Bridge hibs]

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First meeting to decide on songbook gets heated

Brilliant 🤣

[Bostonhibby]

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First meeting to decide on songbook gets heated

But drop me a line for permission before you use my image next time

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[babahibs]

Me and all my mates when we were teens, late 80's, called each other chav and chavi.
Awright chav, awright chavi.
Still do when we see each other.

[linlithgowhibbie]

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Which book is that out of interest?

The link between Hindi (the language, not Hindu the religion) and Romany is that both are Indic languages as the Romanies migrated from India. Hindi for thief is "chor", same as Romany/Edinburgh dialect for example.

One word that always interested me is "callydosh" or "cally" for short, which meant "money" in my 1970s Portobello childhood. Anyone heard of that or still use it?

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Cally was common for me from Leith Links area in the 60s and 70s, I still used it with my mates up till early 80s then it seemed to die a death.

[007]

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Which book is that out of interest?

The link between Hindi (the language, not Hindu the religion) and Romany is that both are Indic languages as the Romanies migrated from India. Hindi for thief is "chor", same as Romany/Edinburgh dialect for example.

One word that always interested me is "callydosh" or "cally" for short, which meant "money" in my 1970s Portobello childhood. Anyone heard of that or still use it?

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Haven't heard it for a long while but I remember callydosh and most of the others mentioned.

I'll also chuck into the mix shotty for look out/lookout.

[KNBE]

Yes, that's another one we used as kids too.

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[Hibbyradge]

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Haven't heard it for a long while but I remember callydosh and most of the others mentioned.

I'll also chuck into the mix shotty for look out/lookout.

We pronounced it "Shoaty" or "shoats".

[Kato]

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Which book is that out of interest?

The link between Hindi (the language, not Hindu the religion) and Romany is that both are Indic languages as the Romanies migrated from India. Hindi for thief is "chor", same as Romany/Edinburgh dialect for example.

One word that always interested me is "callydosh" or "cally" for short, which meant "money" in my 1970s Portobello childhood. Anyone heard of that or still use it?

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Recognise callydosh but not heard it for ages, bud. Great one.

More pages of that book along with title page. The guy used to travel eastwards out edinburgh and try to engage romany people, travellers in conversation - gathering words.











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[wookie70]

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If the designated compulsory look is pishy breeks, egg yolk down the jumper, grey stubble, at least one tooth missing and a flasher's grubby raincoat then count me in. Wouldn't need to breenge in and throw folk out of their seats. Seats will be willingly vacated by non-B65 folk.

Rules me out I don't like runny eggs

[KNBE]

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Recognise callydosh but not heard it for ages, bud. Great one.

More pages of that book along with title page. The guy used to travel eastwards out edinburgh and try to engage romany people, travellers in conversation - gathering words.











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Looks an interesting book, thanks. I wonder why Edinburgh dialect was so influenced by Romany compared with other cities. Interesting how some of these words fall out of use, and others stay.

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[wookie70]

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Which book is that out of interest?

The link between Hindi (the language, not Hindu the religion) and Romany is that both are Indic languages as the Romanies migrated from India. Hindi for thief is "chor", same as Romany/Edinburgh dialect for example.

One word that always interested me is "callydosh" or "cally" for short, which meant "money" in my 1970s Portobello childhood. Anyone heard of that or still use it?

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I was a porty lad and used that and still do. Does anyone know where coupon, meaning face, comes from

[JimBHibees]

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First meeting to decide on songbook gets heated

[Golden Bear]

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First meeting to decide on songbook gets heated

That's a cracker D! That could be me and your old man in a couple of years.
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[malcolm]

All the barrie posts on this thread that I may have instigated got me recalling an old thread on here where the jambo poster son of haggard posted this:

My favourite Edinburgh book, from which I took my user name, is full of Romany derived words which were taken into slang.

It can be read here - it's an enjoyable romp and the report of his trial in the Scotsman is a hoot if you can find it . George Borrow refers to him in Lavengro - his Romany novel, though Haggart himself Ii don't think was of Romany extraction. I have an 1821 copy of the book which also has a phrenologist report which he allowed to happen while he awaited execution.

https://archive.org/details/b24930052/page/56

https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Haggart,_David_(DNB00)

There's a glossary at the end full of the slang of the day

https://archive.org/details/b24930052/page/172

It includes words like 'kipping' for playing truant which we still used at porty school in the 60s/ 70s

[wookie70]

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All the barrie posts on this thread that I may have instigated got me recalling an old thread on here where the jambo poster son of haggard posted this:

My favourite Edinburgh book, from which I took my user name, is full of Romany derived words which were taken into slang.

It can be read here - it's an enjoyable romp and the report of his trial in the Scotsman is a hoot if you can find it . George Borrow refers to him in Lavengro - his Romany novel, though Haggart himself Ii don't think was of Romany extraction. I have an 1821 copy of the book which also has a phrenologist report which he allowed to happen while he awaited execution.

https://archive.org/details/b24930052/page/56

https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Haggart,_David_(DNB00)

There's a glossary at the end full of the slang of the day

https://archive.org/details/b24930052/page/172

It includes words like 'kipping' for playing truant which we still used at porty school in the 60s/ 70s

Kipping school was still in use most days when I left after registration in the 80s

[Bostonhibby]

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Kipping school was still in use most days when I left after registration in the 80s

Same here, Porty annex and the big school - but in the 70's

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[Hibbyradge]

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Rules me out I don't like runny eggs

If Carol Beardsley reads that, you'll be in deep trouble!

[O'Rourke3]

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Same here, Porty annex and the big school - but in the 70's

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We may have met ....

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[Bostonhibby]

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We may have met ....

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I used to head down porty high street straight after skipping off Then to the Seabeach Hotel as we reached 5th year.

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[wookie70]

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I used to head down porty high street straight after skipping off Then to the Seabeach Hotel as we reached 5th year.

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Hammy Lodge in my day.

[Mick O'Rourke]

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Looks an interesting book, thanks. I wonder why Edinburgh dialect was so influenced by Romany compared with other cities. Interesting how some of these words fall out of use, and others stay.

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Areas of Edinburgh that had travellers camps or places where travellers would park up/camp anyway
So East Edinburgh,Duddingston and down by Gypsy Brae towards Silverknowes i can mention.
The travellers would use local pubs, meet hawkers,tinkers and and assorted minks who already settled in the housing schemes nearby and do deals ,find work and bevvy!
Some of these camps had easy acess to the tattie howkin and berry pickin in East Lothian and thereabouts.
Goes from there i would say over many years,others then picking up the words/phrases from the settled folk/kids at school.
I can "mang the cant" quite well, or could when i was younger .
Ma berry picking days !!