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08-10-2018 12:27 PM #61
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08-10-2018 12:47 PM #62
It's kinda silly. Not even close, Lennon for many reasons previously stated.
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08-10-2018 12:53 PM #63
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Neil all the way though Mogga was a breath of fresh air when he came in and we played some seriously good footy.
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08-10-2018 12:57 PM #64This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Whittaker
Caldwell
O'Connor
Riordan
Thomson
Brown
Fletcher
Murray
Zemamma
Benji
Who were all internationals. Fletcher probably didn't get caps under mowbray but I think rest would have?
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08-10-2018 12:59 PM #65This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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08-10-2018 01:31 PM #67This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
They were flirting with relegation all season until they went on a late run beating Rangers Hearts and Dundee eventually finishing ninth
If you look at my previous posts you will realise that I never let the facts interfere with a good story
Still enjoyed Mowbrays young team though 😁⚽️👍🏾🇳🇬🏆
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08-10-2018 01:38 PM #68This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
That would really set him a class apart
OK he has won the Championship and got us playing with belief but so did McLeish
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08-10-2018 02:04 PM #70
Standing ovations after scintillating passages play were common in the old east stand in games we would ultimately end up failing to win.
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08-10-2018 02:32 PM #71
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It's hard to pick the most embarrassing derby defeat under Mowbray, regular pumping with 4 goals blasting past Zibi and co regularly.
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08-10-2018 03:05 PM #73
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Mowbray endured some grim derby defeats but he also won a few too, including ending the 'unbeatable' yams' run as well as an all too rare win at Tynecastle.
Mogga was brilliant for Hibs after some horrible years post-McLeish. A third and fourth place finish in his two full seasons with us was good going and he unquestionably laid the foundations for the 2007 League Cup win.
Lennon, though, has taken us to a different level and for as long as he's here we'll always be highly competitive.
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08-10-2018 05:51 PM #74This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I liked Tony Mowbray... I love Neil Lennon. I hope and pray he'll stay with us and get his legend status.
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08-10-2018 05:57 PM #75
Mowbray was probably my favourite manager before Lennon. Lennon is a different level though.
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08-10-2018 06:49 PM #76
Under Mowbray attendances grew by 40%, the football was exciting and the team successful.
However, the club was still a shambles as almost all clubs were e.g. training at Wardie Park, playing in a ground with a glorified shed down one side of the pitch, Rod getting abuse as he tried to bring the ground into the 21st century. Lots of financial pressure. Mowbray worked and succeeded under that mess which was no mean feat. He is doing okay in the Championship with Blackburn at the moment
Lennon came in with the club financially stable, east mains in place, the ground finished, on the back of the Scottish Cup win. Massive crowds therefore a good player budget. A good structure at the club of Leanne, George, a happier Rod, medical and analyst back up etc etc etc.
Saying that Lennon has made good use of everything at his disposal. If Lennon, Dempster and Craig stay together we will improve again next season with probably 4 more good signings (this season it was Milligan, Mallan, Kamberi and Horgan). Lennon is only half the equation, with the big crowds financing the recruitment and George and his team finding the RIGHT players.
In conclusion Mowbray and Lennon had different challenges and did/are doing their best for Hibs with what they have at their disposal.
What do they have in common?
Both got rid of Stokesie after much provocation.Last edited by CMurdoch; 08-10-2018 at 11:19 PM.
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08-10-2018 07:31 PM #77
The three derby humpings off Hearts under Mowbray were horrendous, but Mowbray managed to pull a rabbit out the hat following each one that dampened the anger a bit:
First defeat at PBS we then won 3 nil at Ibrox a few weeks later and we won the return derby game which was the unbeatable derby.
Second defeat in January we went to Ibrox the week after and won 3 nil in the cup.
Third defeat (SC semi) we won a few weeks later at Easter Road in the league.
Mowbrays biggest failing for me was his inability to sort our our goalkeeping problem, and even giving Zibby a contract extension. Madness. Lennon would have sorted that situation out I have no doubt.
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08-10-2018 08:04 PM #78
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09-10-2018 06:54 AM #80
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I remember Mowbray giving an interview after a game, saying if we played that way every week we would "win more games than we lose".
That sums up the difference to me. Lennon wouldn't tolerate anyone at the club saying that just now
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09-10-2018 07:06 AM #81
Lennon. Top scorers in the league and a very talented squad.
Do you think your security can keep you in purity, you will not shake us off above or below. Scottish friction, Scottish fiction
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09-10-2018 07:31 AM #82
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09-10-2018 07:44 AM #83
Neil Lennon seems to be getting the upper hand on this thread in the battle with Mogga and hopefully he can go onto further success as he moulds this current squad to match his ambition
In my eyes and perhaps in the eyes of some older posters Neil Lennon still has to go some to match imo our best ever Manager and Coach Eddie Turnbulll
It might also be worth asking ourselves the question what if Jock Stein had stayed at HIBS?
That is a big IF but he certainly had HIBS going in the right direction before he left taking Celtic onto European and domestic glory.Last edited by BILLYHIBS; 09-10-2018 at 09:33 AM.
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09-10-2018 07:50 AM #84
I think it's a real shame that so many people on here are being so dismissive of Tony Mowbray and his team.
Short memories indeed
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09-10-2018 08:53 AM #85
Neil Lennon is by far the best Hibs manager in my lifetime. Started going mid/late 70’s when Eddie Turnbull was in decline. Tony Mowbray was our first manager to have me desperately counting the hours until the next game such was the enjoyment of his football, but I have that now and even more so with Lennon. Alan Stubbs is ingrained into Hibs folklore and that goes without saying, but Lennon is streets ahead tactically and his higher demands of the players has upped our level considerably. I’m actually still surprised we were able to appoint such a high profile manager in Neil Lennon.
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09-10-2018 09:19 AM #86
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Lennon has built a good side but he's always had the steady base of success to work from.
Mowbray had a disillusioned support, board and team to work with and turned them around very quickly with a few additions of his own too.
Mowbray for me so far. Without him we'd have won nothing in 2007 and we'd probably be sharing Oriam with hertz.
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09-10-2018 11:34 AM #87
There is no comparison as far as I am concerned.
Lennon by a country mile for many reasons.
Putting aside the goalkeeping issues Mowbray had, he DID have a great squad and some great players. He made an arse of some man management by all accounts, teams were great when great but too often were inconsistent. Worse still; we bottled it when it mattered. As Green Day said, nice guys finish last. Mowbray was by all accounts a "nice guy" (though screwed up the Riordan thing and some other player issues as I mentioned) BUT, he won nothing.
Sick of this pish about how Tony's team won the cup. Tony's team had plenty chances to win a cup; they bottled it. Bottom line. Looked good sometimes but bottled it. Whether folk dewy eyed or not like it, John Collins, was a winner. He won the cup. WITH Tony's Team? I have my doubts on that and if he did, why couldn't uncle Tony manage it with "his" team?
Nice guy but won nothing.
No comparison to Lennon and not so poor off as some suggest.
If Lennon had inherited the "golden generation" I'd wager he would have done more with them, got more from them and won something/more.
No hard feelings to Mowbray; he produced some good football and the results versus der hun were braw. But, ultimately insignificant when we won nowt.
Lennon on the other hand, given some time....who knows.
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09-10-2018 11:37 AM #88
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Just like there will be changes in tone about our current team on here throughout this season. Potentially in about 3 weeks' time! Hopefully it's an even bigger buzz about our current team and manager after seeing off a difficult run of fixtures.
We haven't yet managed to finish 3rd in the top league under Lennon, or win 'meaningful' silverware. Good times at Easter Road and I have every faith in our current boss... but some are forgetting some pretty good times and achievements under previous managers very easily.
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