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Perfectionism, and the striving for excellence, are a contributor to depression. The fact that AL is paid stupid amounts of money puts a pressure on him, an expectation to perform like a superhero every week. Some people are resilient enough to deal with not being able to do it, some not.
We've seen evidence this season of our manager being a perfectionist. I can't help thinking that that is a contributor to his own depression.
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Thread: Depression and anxiety
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08-05-2017 06:35 AM #601
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14-05-2017 10:12 AM #602
Anyone have any tips for dealing with post night out anxiety? I know it's brought on myself and the answer should really be to not drink but when I do find myself having a night out or even enough wine at dinner with the family, the next morning my anxiety kicks into overdrive. Anyone experience similar or have any advice to lessen the severity?
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14-05-2017 10:49 AM #603This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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14-05-2017 11:28 AM #604
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One of the posters here has mentioned going for a walk swim etc..Id agree..It works because you stop resisting what is happening (to give you the anxious feeling) and allow new thought to pop into your head on the walk (or listening to music, or chatting to mates or watching Hibs etc)...New thought new feeling..
Not everones cup of tea but I'm going to recommend a few books that could potentially help (what works for one may not work for another due to our unique processing of information)...But here you go:
Somebody Should Have Told Us - Jack Pransky (One of my favourite books, simple to read. No techniques but gives a simple approach to understanding our relationship with our thoughts)
Clarity - Jamie Smart (Another simple read about 3 principles & inside out understanding)
Dare - Barry McDonagh (I've had a few chats with Barry to do with work & love this book...It gives you an approach to deal with anxiety specifically)
Mind Calm - Sandy Newbigging (I've worked with Sandy for years & I teach the programme in Ireland & Edinburgh....Simple to read & apply & loads of support material on his website)
Hope that helps..
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14-05-2017 12:11 PM #606
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We all have negative thoughts, I have some completely mental ones now and again..The thing is with most of these we just brush them off as crazy thoughts, luagh them away....Some though we can believe as real & bad and thats when problems can be created...What ever the thought & feeling is its just a thought, its just an emotion..If your feeling **** then thats a sign your thinkings off course a bit..(I've heard it described as the rumble strip on the motorway)..Your emotions are a good indicator of your thinking, nothing to do with the situation your thinking about...
As I say any questions gimmie a shout...
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I once found myself unexpectedly in a room with John Reid, the former Labour MP and Cabinet Minister. It was just prior to something that I was finding incredibly traumatic and my anxiety was in overdrive - and it was obvious.
He said to me that I should contemplate two things. Firstly the vast number of galaxies, stars and planets in the Universe. Secondly the almost infinite stretch of time and the generations and billions of human beings who had lived and died. Then he said I should think about the thing I was worrying about and my wider non-specific anxiety or depression and consider how much any of it really mattered in the more vast sweep of things. Really, he said, there are very, very few things that you can't find a way to cope with, recover from or use to strengthen you despite how fearful they may think they are making you.
I asked him what he meant by 'they may think they are making you'. He said that in many cases what people were anxious or depressed about was not ultimately the thing that they thought they were worried about or depressed by, it was their fearing it or being depressed about it that had come to be their focus and quite often the original source of the worry was quite manageable compared to the monster that their own fear had become. His answer was to place all of this in the context of a Universe spectacularly larger than ourselves and to accept that most things didn't ultimately matter and just weren't as important as we persuaded ourselves they were.
I found it helpful at the time and have ever since.
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That's some great advice ODS, it's completely true that the thought of being anxious itself is far more crippling than the catalyst of the anxiety ever was or will be. I'll try and take it on board next time any intrusive thoughts float by.
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14-05-2017 01:35 PM #609
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due to reducing my alcohol intake
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15-05-2017 10:52 AM #615
Dear posters,
My behaviour on .net has often been childish and selfish and when it came to this (excellent) thread I seemed to hog the attention.
I have changed so much mentally that I feel like "me" again. It took a large dose of antipsychotics and antidepressants but after years of struggle I am doing a lot better.
I used to write stupid Blog posts acting as if my problems were more important than other peoples and for that I apologise.
My Mother died on March 15th 2017 and my best friend died 3rd of May 2017. Obviously I am gutted but I am sincerely grateful that it happened during a time when I was doing so well. If this had happened a few years back I don't think I could have handled it.
So a huge thanks to everyone on this thread for keeping it going!
Andy
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08-08-2017 01:37 PM #620
https://www.google.de/amp/www.indepe...781.html%3famp
I first saw this on Facebook and some of the comments are absolutely atrocious. People can be such utter ****s.
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As for the comments on the article, nothing really surprises me about the low condition of human beings anymore. There's some truly cancerous masses that walk amongst society.
When Chester Bennington killed himself after years of mental health problems, some of the response and vitriol from not just trolls on the internet but musicians he'd played alongside in the past, was absolutely sickening.
Hope all of the posters on this thread are doing well just now, as it's been a while since anyone posted anythingMadness, as you know, is a lot like gravity. All it takes is a little push.
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08-08-2017 11:36 PM #622
Now that this thread has been updated once again I'm going to say its the best thread theres ever been on .net. Its not my thing but, I feel it would be inspirational if it was fed to a wider audience, whether its related charities, fbook or twitter or other fans sites its a very important and impressive thread.
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A lot of it seems to be the usual 'what does she have to be depressed about?' or 'other people with her condition still work so why can't she?' It's like saying some people with a heart condition still work and cope so why can't everyone. If nothing else it shows there's still plenty work to do to remove the stigma of mental health and raise awareness.
I hope Sinead O'Connor gets the help and support she deperately needs. She's not someone I always agree with but she's generally passionate and worth listening to.PM Awards General Poster of The Year 2015, 2016, 2017. Probably robbed in other years
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In terms of her music, THAT song is spellbinding in my opinion, one of the best cover versions of all time.
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09-08-2017 09:55 PM #625
I'm sick of it to be honest. I tired. Tired that whenever I'm in a good place my bipolar ****s me up. Tired of fighting it day in day out. I'm right at the start of an episode and the only thing I think about is how ****ing tired I am of this ****. Wish I could just go to sleep and wake up when it's past. But Cannae sleep. Pissing people off with my **** it attitude and seem to be looking for an arguement. It's so tiring. For them, for me, for everyone. It's pish.
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I used to "fight" my depression. Did everything I could to stave off what, in hindsight, was inevitable. All that achieved was a longer and deeper depression, with a feeling of failure that I'd not been able to "beat" it.
That pattern continued for years, and then I developed a new approach. When an episode was on its way, I didn't run away. I let it happen. Just gave in to it, whilst using little management tools to help avoid its worst effects.
The result is that my episodes are shorter, and less intense, and I have a greater feeling of control. In short, i treat my condition as a friend, rather than an enemy .
It isn't a cure, but it's the most effective tool I've got to reduce the pain.
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11-08-2017 11:57 AM #628
Just on the subject of anxiety's link with alcohol for a moment, there is a lot of information out there including this fairly basic text from Drinkaware's site:
https://www.drinkaware.co.uk/alcohol...l-and-anxiety/
In general, my understanding is that it's possible that long term use or abuse of alcohol can cause a rewiring of the brain. The body gets used to alcohol dealing with anxious feelings an individual might feel and so when the alcohol is not present it struggles to deal with the anxiety using its own resources. Often this means that people drink to self-medicate their anxiety and so this sets up a vicious cycle of anxiety-alcohol-sobriety-alcohol.
Well done to all on maintaining this excellent thread, good to see.
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11-08-2017 05:18 PM #629
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My routine has worked for me, with varying success, for a long time but the past few months I've had so many episodes. I seem to come out of one episode and straight into the next. It's exhausting. Maybe it's time to think about medication again. I don't know. I'm in a real "**** everything" attitude. I'm angry, irritable and a ****ing nightmare to live with. I'm giving it till Friday and then it's a trip to the doctor. To answer your question, no, not much is working just now and that's not the norm.
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