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13-07-2018 09:39 PM #391
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13-07-2018 09:52 PM #392This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Denmark 5.75 million
Nigeria 196 million
Argentina 45 million
Yet England blew it?
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13-07-2018 09:52 PM #393
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But nah, I’ll settle for “ongoing failure” every day of the week before I cash it all in for a team that means nothing to me.
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13-07-2018 10:03 PM #394This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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13-07-2018 10:05 PM #395This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Scotland is a country. It's chosen to pool its sovereignty as a nation with the other nations of the UK. Nationalists are not the only patriots and there's no reason why we shouldn't have a Scottish national team.
Football is littered with contradictions: Cardiff City and Swansea play in the English leagues, Berwick Rangers play in the Scottish leagues, Germany were allowed three separate international teams at one stage - East Germany, West Germany and, briefly, Saarland. There are plenty more quirks and inconsistencies.
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13-07-2018 10:11 PM #396madhatterLeft by mutual consent!
Surprised this thread is still going, so off topic now. England Semi, they are out and this thread resembles something completely different now.
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13-07-2018 10:12 PM #397This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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13-07-2018 10:17 PM #398
Cannot quite believe this debate is still going. Who knew there were so many people dispassionately interested in the performance of the English national side from a purely objective perspective.
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13-07-2018 10:56 PM #399madhatterLeft by mutual consent!This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Fifa iron out what? I’m sorry but where would the line be drawn on unions then? Will we have UK football team vs EU football team then? Just play one game and stop having all these pesky countries getting involved. Incidentally EU vs UK = EU win. An EU team would be something else.
The majority of England fans don’t want an UK team, majority of Scotland fans don’t want an UK team and majority Welsh fans don’t want an UK team. If it were just about winning, shorten Scottish league to 3 teams, Celtic, Rangers, and Rest of Scotland. Sorted, Celtic and Rangers will struggle then, imagine Aberdeen, Hearts and Hibs plus all the other teams combined!
It waters down national identity of each individual country and would again sway in a biased fashion towards England due to population.
What saddens me is that we, in Scotland, seem to consider the UK team as a means to win something. That’s worrying as that’s sacrificing the advancement of your own game just for some glory hunting (let’s be honest, at the very most only 1 Scottish player would be selected in that squad).My concern is if Scotland did well in a competition and England were already knocked out, I’m pretty sure there wouldn’t be such large swathes in England suggesting doing away with their own National team, pretty sure they’d be calling for sackings...I fear for the national identity of Scotland tbh, protecting the identity of your country shouldn’t be perceived as nationalism and in such a negative way. We all deserve our own football teams or football is dead in my eyes.
This is so far off topic, England are out and it’ll be a very sad day when each distinct country cannot have their own national football team. McGinn would have 0 UK national caps under this suggested model, Scotland would get minimal additional funding when you consider the landmass, 3rd of the landmass of the UK and simply does not get the funding to give the 5million people the chance to excel at sport, we’ve got shocking facilities for public use. Shocking. UK team doesn’t solve that, if anything it’s worsen it. Areas of high population density would get the most funding, more pitches and facilities created etc. I’m sure London has quite a few gyms, sport centres and the like...maybe not. Doubt creating facilities in the remote corners of Scotland would be top priority for a UK national team, aim wouldn’t be to find the next Messi in the Highlands.
Rant over. This thread needs closed as it doesn’t link to original title anymore!Last edited by madhatter; 13-07-2018 at 11:02 PM.
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13-07-2018 11:20 PM #400
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I've called you out before, as have others.
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14-07-2018 07:41 AM #401
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14-07-2018 07:55 AM #402
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your "UK team" argument seems to be bigger is better? How about people just want to support their nation at football, regardless of wether they will end up winning anything? The league equivalent of your argument would be to create an "Edinburgh" team from Hibs & Hearts as it may be more successful..Would you recommend this too?
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14-07-2018 07:59 AM #403
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A UK team would at least give me another sport to be ABUK.
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14-07-2018 08:01 AM #404This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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14-07-2018 08:07 AM #405
Let's just knock this UK team nonsense on the head right now. Leave that garbage to the arch-unionists over at Ibrox.
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14-07-2018 09:10 AM #407
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14-07-2018 09:12 AM #408
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14-07-2018 09:12 AM #409
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Being critical of Scotland's pitiful failure to qualify for a major tournament this century isn't 'bringing our nation down'. Nor does it make me, IMHO, a t***. It's just an uncomfortable and depressing truth.
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14-07-2018 09:16 AM #410
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Norway last got to the World Cup in 98 also.
Would you find any Norwegian calling for a Scandinavian team so they could take pride in the success of Sweden?
Would you ****, but then they appear to have a bucket load of self respect and a clear lack of cringe factor which is the opposite situation to Scotland.
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14-07-2018 09:18 AM #412
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Anyway, back on to the (off) topic. No need for a uk side whatsoever.. perfectly happy for you to support England and carry on revelling in Scotland’s “ongoing failure”.. I don’t understand it but it’s your choice.
But there’s no need to want the rest of us to stop having the chance to support our country.
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14-07-2018 09:20 AM #413
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14-07-2018 09:22 AM #414
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UK team idea is such a cop-out. Let's try and fix the problems we have with developing decent players rather than sweep it under the rug.
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14-07-2018 09:29 AM #416
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I can just see thousands of Scotland fans, kilted up, belting out the proclaimers and “we’ll be coming” to get to the ground and observe god save the Queen before getting right behind an England team under the guise of team GB.
I’m not saying you’re demanding I agree with it. But the notion that it’s a fix for our long for success is ludicrous.
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14-07-2018 09:43 AM #418
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I suspect, however, you’ve made a mistake and thought it was me that made stoneyburn’s post.
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14-07-2018 09:59 AM #419madhatterLeft by mutual consent!This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
This thread started of with:
"An English work friend of mine has 2 tickets for the semi final on Wednesday when England play Croatia. He paid £300 each including flights but he didn't realise when he bought them months ago that it was going to be the same day as his wedding! If you are interested, he is looking for someone to take his place.
It's at Croydon Registry Office, at 4pm. The bride's name is Nicola -- she's 5'4", about 8 stone, quite pretty, and is a really good cook. PM me for more details."
I have my opinions on the matter of UK team and so do others, I've shared mine here (in the 7 paragraphs you mention) because it was in response to a post on this thread, doesn't change the fact I think this isn't the thread for it though.
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14-07-2018 10:22 AM #420This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
How good is Nicola in the kitchen?
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