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14-07-2018 11:05 AM #31
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14-07-2018 11:14 AM #32This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
We have a successful Ladies team that contributes to how positively I feel about being a Hibs fan in the same way that the youths' double last season or winning the Scottish Cup does. Or indeed the money spent on maintaining the stadium to a good standard rather than only the bare minimum to satisfy health & safety, or the money spent on running East Mains when we could be running round Arthur's Seat.
There is a lot more to Hibs than just the eleven players on the park that you want to support.
And we needed a lot more than your money and mine combined if we wanted to keep McGeouch, so do we have enough money to stand still in the men's game?
I actually agree with you that our Ladies team shouldn't be professional, but for a different reason. Unless the Ladies game up here goes semi-pro, then there is little point to having a professional team facing amateurs.Mature, sensible signature required for responsible position. Good prospects for the right candidate. Apply within.
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14-07-2018 11:24 AM #33This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I think every lady/girl who wants to play football should play football. All i care about is the team i have followed all my life, and a youth set up has over the years brought through some fantastic players that have played for the club, and earnt us money when they left.
Once women start to do this, then by all means fund them, but i dont feel any more positive or less positive about this team because of the womans results.
At the start we were promised they would not need funded other than the odd set of strips, now its contracts and wages they need.
All for what, players who will never represent the team i support?
Whats next, a stadium, their own training centre?
They need to support themselves financially, not have it taken from funds that should be available for the mens team.Last edited by blackpoolhibs; 14-07-2018 at 11:27 AM.
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14-07-2018 12:41 PM #34This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show QuoteThis is how it feels
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14-07-2018 01:15 PM #37
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14-07-2018 01:20 PM #38
Trump loves Scotland. Maybe we should get him to invest.
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14-07-2018 01:31 PM #39
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The more that Hibs is seen as aspirational and inclusive the more people (of both genders) will come to watch the undoubted pinnacle of the game at the club, the mens first team. You'd have to be blind to not see the growth of girls in the support over the last 5 years or so, not-so-oddly in direct correlation with a surge in the female game in Scotland and the South East in particular over the same period.
Your oft repeated mantra of "not a penny of my money on anything but the first team" is clear - you don't see Hibs as anything other than the first team. So should anything be spent on projects like "Fit Fans"? Should anyone be employed at the club in roles relating to community engagement? Are you happy with money being spent on social media that doesn't have a direct and measurable impact on the first team?
I think your thinking is limited, and no I'm not suggesting that Hibs pay professional wages to compete with teams in England, but to compartmentalise the club in the way you do is wrong.
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14-07-2018 01:36 PM #40
Its a difficult one
I am proud of Hibs Ladies, have been to watch them and always look out for their results and their media coverage and my daughter is mates with their captain.
I want them to continue to do well and prosper and there is no doubt they have some very good players.
One of the games of football I have enjoyed most in years was their home Champions League game against Bayern where although they got thumped, Bayern were just a joy to watch, truly the beautiful game.
I have no doubt that their existence and success brings tangible benefits to Hibs not least in the number of women and girls who now attend games
I am happy Hibs offer them facilities and support them modestly through as I understand it kit etc.
Having said all of that I doubt I am ready to take money out the playing budget to offer their players contracts.
I hope the women's game goes from strength to strength and Hibs remain at the pinnacle of it and that in time it can generate in its own right sufficient monies for these women to be properly rewarded for their talent.
Unfortunately though like the men's game there is a food chain and like the men's team, it is inevitable that their better players will be pursued and more often that not caught by teams further up the food chain.
I am totally ignorant of their fund raising activities but maybe I would be prepared to fund them lightly as I do HSL and KFK by regular contribution to help them progress.
I don't know if this is something that is possible or that others may also be interested in doing to help the ladies team without "damaging" the men's team
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14-07-2018 04:21 PM #43
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For the sake of picking a number, if playing for Hibs Girls or being Hibs minded and pestering parents to go see the team in the SPFL has added even as few as ten bodies through the gate every week, that's probably a minimum of £5K to the club, a lot less than is spent on the Women's team by the club.
As for "why don't they go to watch the women's team", like you, most people prefer the mens game. I can't see why this would change any time soon. However, as the game is improved - and it has improved dramatically over the last ten years - interest will continue to increase and crowds too. It'll find its level, but as a core Scottish footballing institution, Hibs are doing absolutely the right thing to back and promote it while its developing to reap the rewards in the future for both the mens and womens first teams.
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14-07-2018 06:48 PM #44
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However, in order for the SPFL team to succeed, the need fans through the turnstiles. One way of doing that is presenting Hibs as an open, inclusive and community driven club, Being involved with the women's side of the game raises the profile of the club with girls, and makes "playing for Hibs" as aspirational for girls as it is for boys. The number of registered female players has more than doubled in the last 5-6 years, and the South East Region has shown the biggest increase, and the increase is the biggest amongst younger girls - if I recall correctly its something like 5000 now in the South East. These girls must be seen as future fans through the gate. I mentioned earlier that, very roughly, an extra ten bodies through the gate every week adds £5K+ to the clubs coffers. I susepct the number is a fair bit higher than that. For Hibs not to back women's football would be shoot ourselves in the foot.
Also, the "couple of dozen" you mention is somewhat undermined by the attendance at the Bayern game. And you're right, we aren't a cricket club, but we are a football club.
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