Good article in the record.
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/opinion...s-need-5386427
Sums up where we are. It's going to take a massive effort to convince fans to come back.
The 3 most important of which would be
1. Petrie leaving
2. promotion
3. Win the Scottish cup
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Thread: Where we are at
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25-03-2015 12:34 PM #1
Where we are at
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25-03-2015 12:51 PM #2This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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25-03-2015 12:56 PM #3
Seems an odd time to write an article like that. HOH and Buyhibs are quiet/dead in the water so why mention them? I appreciate there's still a big petrie out sentiment amongst the support (it would be my preference) but FFS leave it till the summer now surely. Nothing should distract from the aims of promotion and beating falkirk in the semi.
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25-03-2015 01:09 PM #5This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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25-03-2015 01:12 PM #6This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Because we need to get fans back to Easter Road? We can't leave it till the summer because the season tickets are on sale now.
It should not distract from our stated aim of promotion or winning the semi.
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25-03-2015 01:25 PM #7This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show QuoteEvery gimmick hungry yob,
Digging gold from rock and roll
Grabs the mic to tell us,
He'll die before he's sold.
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25-03-2015 01:29 PM #8This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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25-03-2015 01:34 PM #9This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show QuoteEvery gimmick hungry yob,
Digging gold from rock and roll
Grabs the mic to tell us,
He'll die before he's sold.
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25-03-2015 01:36 PM #10
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25-03-2015 01:45 PM #13This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
And initially only reading the first half of it
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25-03-2015 01:50 PM #14
An interesting piece and quite a bit of truth in it. At one point we did have too many people all wanting the same thing, but at odds about how to achieve it. I think that HSL and the share issue in general has put that to bed.
Yes Petrie is still there and if the appointment of Leeann Dempster's appointment had turned out to be a damp squib I think the cry for him to go would have grown and been as loud as ever. But the proof of the pudding is in the eating and it cant be denied that she appears to be if not a panacea for the malady of Petrie then at least capable of clearing up some of the nastier symptoms. As things stand I think most of us are prepared to put Petrie on the back burner, at least for the time being. Though I for one wish he had gone when he should have and still do.
There is no doubt that though 600 HSL members is a decent start its going to be a long haul to get near 51% fan ownership. Someone said that there could be a process where independent share owners could proxy their shares to HSL for voting purposes and I for one can see some merit in that.
I do think his hints at armageddon if things don't work out are a wee bit OTT but there is no doubt that the club could suffer medium term problems if things don't work out this season. As he alludes to the take up of season tickets and semi final tickets will be a decent indicator of where we are at. A recent statement from the club that like for like ST sales are the best they have been for the last 5 years at this time is encouraging. If we can hit 15 to 20 thousand semi tickets that will be a good sign too.
All I can do is echo his sentiment about support for the club. Yes we have been Tom Kite for years, but most clubs have periods like that. Yes we hate Petrie, but he is not Hibernian football club, we are. At the end of the day do we love our club or not? If you call yourself a Hibby and genuinely want to see the club survive and even thrive get yourself out there, buy a season ticket and buy shares if you can afford it.
GGTTH
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25-03-2015 02:13 PM #15Originally Posted by Nae NookieThis quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkLast edited by Mikey; 25-03-2015 at 02:23 PM. Reason: Fixed quotes
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25-03-2015 02:55 PM #19
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If people are staying away purely on the fact Petries still there then they are not only holding us back financially but they are missing something a wee bit special - the rebuilding of our Club. Cutting off their noses to spite their face IMO
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25-03-2015 03:06 PM #20This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
If Hibs want to entice these customers back then we need to address their concerns.
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25-03-2015 03:11 PM #21This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Tbf, LD seems to be doing everything in her power to address our weaknesses.
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25-03-2015 03:15 PM #22This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
They have gone a long way towards addressing our concerns. It is time for ALL Hibs fans to get behind the club.Last edited by marinello59; 25-03-2015 at 03:28 PM.
Every gimmick hungry yob,
Digging gold from rock and roll
Grabs the mic to tell us,
He'll die before he's sold.
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25-03-2015 03:21 PM #23This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I did not mean that the club had started blaming the fans, I just meant that the club should not follow the lead of some on here who do blame the fans.
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25-03-2015 04:26 PM #24This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
We go to help our team win at sport and the simple facts are that we will be better if we all pull together.
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25-03-2015 04:46 PM #25This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Normally we average about 2000 less supporters than Hearts per game, just now its about 6000. They are also chucking in about 1.5m a year on top. Unless we start to close this gap again then we will struggle to match them on the pitch.
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25-03-2015 07:26 PM #27
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Hibs are paying the price for three terrible managerial appointments and the climate of Scottish football in the last decade - Petrie has gone beyond his expiry date and did so when Calderwood was not allowed to go to Forest. Calderwood, Fenlon and Butcher have effectively scared people away because the product was so poor, so negative and so industrial in footballing terms. We were a football graveyard for journeymen footballers.
After Mixu the club should have taken on someone who had experience with working with youth football - that is always going to be a successful route for a club our size to go down.
Around the time of Calderwood (and before), Aberdeen were investing heavily in both time and money in getting a 'four corner' scouting system and training set up established - Hibs, despite coming out of a very fruitful period where we had made millions, didn't consolidate on that system - Hearts at the time were paying unaffordable salaries to their youths, Celtic too.......Hibs stagnated at that level. In truth we never replaced both Parks (John and Donald).
Not saying 'told you so' but I recall a post I made seasons ago stating we should go all out to get Leeann Dempster as she had energy, verve and above all real positivity - the club was in a lull and was one which simply tolerated mediocrity. I'm glad we did, she's been absolutely superb.
Here we are, in a league we don't want to be in, but deserve to be in because of previous mismanagement - but in a few short months the club seems to be revitalised and we are heading in the right direction. I still think there will be twists and turns and some great results and some stinkers (this season). Our manager is still raw and niave but is certainly someone we all rate and respect and the fans seem to be fully behind him and the coaching team. He has recognised that the fans want excitement and want to see a brand of football that entertains. The off field stuff has been excellent and the season ticket campaign has to be commended for being a terrific piece of work.
I've a feeling Stephen Thompson may be picking up the phone to Rod in a few weeks and asking him how he dealt with all the flak - as Dundee United are like Hibs circa 2007......losing their talent for big bucks and now in a position where the results are faltering and the blame culture will kick in.
Being honest - I don't think we will get promotion this season. For me, Butcher and Fenlon left the club in tatters, unconsciously supported by Rod - he took his hands off the wheel and let them go with it. All three share the blame.
But even lack of promotion for me is not failure this season - because the blueprint is in place and fans will return. The product is better. The place is far more positive. I also think we will make the SC final - however again I think we will face Celtic and fall short.
If that's how it pans out, after the 'near death' last season post Hamilton - a quarter final v full strength Dundee Utd only settled on pens which we were a kick away from winning, a (possible) final in the Scottish Cup, top 4 in the league with play-offs, and really decent football throughout - that for me is strong progress from where we were.
I know that my post is a mix of positive and negative (in saying we will not get promotion), but for me this is realistic - and I'm really encouraged at the youth set up and what we have coming through - because they will get that chance
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25-03-2015 07:41 PM #28This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
They bought loads of seasons because they were about to go bust. They bought into the FOH idea because they were about to go bust.
If they had been as crap as us (and they have been in the past) their crowds would be well down.
As for the £1.5m they are raising? So is this working capital or to buy the club? My suspicion is that they will continue to use it to subsidise inflated salaries next season - as they always have (they are "big", dontcha know), and The Auld Budgie will continue to be called " hearts owner" until she pegs out.
They have done well, but let's never kid ourselves the playing field has been level.
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25-03-2015 08:03 PM #29This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
United we stand here....
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