Hibernian FC's response to SFA rejection of an Independent Review....HSA meeting...

***matty_f*** · 16-11-2017 11:08 PM

Originally Posted by Ozyhibby

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I believe Rod said that they decided to release the statement because of pressure the fans reps were under and they kept bringing it up at board meetings?
Frank then said the majority of fans were in favour of moving on?
Which one is it? Is someone telling porkies?
Can someone who was at the meeting confirm?

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I think the majority of the pressure to get a statement out came from you.

**leither17** · 16-11-2017 11:10 PM

Not every Hibs fan is a member of a club though

***The Modfather*** · 16-11-2017 11:37 PM

Originally Posted by marinello59

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If there were only 40 members there tonight then he appears to be right.

It doesn’t sound like the turnout was surprising given it was members only, on a weeknight with only a weeks notice. I’m sure there would have been far more in attendance, myself included, if it was open to season ticket holders (for example) and scheduled the day of a Hibs game.

I’m not a member of any supporters clubs, and never have been. I’ll wait until more details of the meeting come out, but if i’m honest the cynic in me does wonder, whether accurate or not, how much of this is a calculated PR exercise by the club. Limiting it to members only, where the chances may be that it would be faces they are familiar seeing and who might not question as forceably as might happen if opened to the wider support. I may be wrong, and I don’t mean to question any of those that did give up their evening to attend.

**Ozyhibby** · 16-11-2017 11:43 PM

Originally Posted by matty_f

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I think the majority of the pressure to get a statement out came from you.

Fair point.

Can anyone say if anything was said tonight regarding ffp going forward? Do Hibs have a position on this or are we going to just let it all happen again?
I’d be much more inclined to move on if I thought we had taken steps to prevent it happening again.

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**Nakedmanoncrack** · 17-11-2017 12:12 AM

Originally Posted by Right Said Frank

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It doesn’t sound like the turnout was surprising given it was members only, on a weeknight with only a weeks notice. I’m sure there would have been far more in attendance, myself included, if it was open to season ticket holders (for example) and scheduled the day of a Hibs game.

I’m not a member of any supporters clubs, and never have been. I’ll wait until more details of the meeting come out, but if i’m honest the cynic in me does wonder, whether accurate or not, how much of this is a calculated PR exercise by the club. Limiting it to members only, where the chances may be that it would be faces they are familiar seeing and who might not question as forceably as might happen if opened to the wider support. I may be wrong, and I don’t mean to question any of those that did give up their evening to attend.

Its a turnout in line with what I'd expect, and I think your cynicism is well warranted, the club are simply going through the motions here, clearing the decks to 'move on'.

***BigKev*** · 17-11-2017 02:25 AM

Originally Posted by Ozyhibby

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I believe Rod said that they decided to release the statement because of pressure the fans reps were under and they kept bringing it up at board meetings?
Frank then said the majority of fans were in favour of moving on?
Which one is it? Is someone telling porkies?
Can someone who was at the meeting confirm?

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Who did Frank speak to to get the impression the fans were happy to move on? I've not met a Hibs fan who was happy at the club's statement.

I must be mixing with the wrong crowd...

**marinello59** · 17-11-2017 04:25 AM

Originally Posted by Right Said Frank

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It doesn’t sound like the turnout was surprising given it was members only, on a weeknight with only a weeks notice. I’m sure there would have been far more in attendance, myself included, if it was open to season ticket holders (for example) and scheduled the day of a Hibs game.

I’m not a member of any supporters clubs, and never have been. I’ll wait until more details of the meeting come out, but if i’m honest the cynic in me does wonder, whether accurate or not, how much of this is a calculated PR exercise by the club. Limiting it to members only, where the chances may be that it would be faces they are familiar seeing and who might not question as forceably as might happen if opened to the wider support. I may be wrong, and I don’t mean to question any of those that did give up their evening to attend.

The club didn't limit this to members only. That was a decision taken by the HSA for reasons of their own. Even so the attendance is still disappointing given the efforts made to make this meeting happen.

**Ozyhibby** · 17-11-2017 05:15 AM

Originally Posted by marinello59

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The club didn't limit this to members only. That was a decision taken by the HSA for reasons of their own. Even so the attendance is still disappointing given the efforts made to make this meeting happen.

Considering most Hibs fans couldn’t get in, the attendance was pretty good.

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**marinello59** · 17-11-2017 05:22 AM

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Considering most Hibs fans couldn’t get in, the attendance was pretty good.

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If it was only 40 then that's just a bus load. How many members does the HSA have?

**ajf** · 17-11-2017 05:45 AM

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If it was only 40 then that's just a bus load. How many members does the HSA have?

Don't know , but here's a season ticket holder who was looking forward to going until the hsa club denied me the right

***Winston Ingram*** · 17-11-2017 05:53 AM

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Considering most Hibs fans couldn’t get in, the attendance was pretty good.

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I went down and wasn’t allowed in.

***linlithgowhibbie*** · 17-11-2017 05:59 AM

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Don't know , but here's a season ticket holder who was looking forward to going until the hsa club denied me the right

Not sure it was your "Right". Any club can refuse entrance to non members for any reason. Just like a pub can refuse to serve you without having to give you a reason.
Unfortunately thats the law.

**mcohibs** · 17-11-2017 06:24 AM

Would be interested to hear the motive behind the HSA making this members only. Surely opening it up to the wider support would have been to their advantage. I'm a ST holder and was planning on attending before finding out it was members only.

***green day*** · 17-11-2017 06:34 AM

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Would be interested to hear the motive behind the HSA making this members only. Surely opening it up to the wider support would have been to their advantage. I'm a ST holder and was planning on attending before finding out it was members only.

Hibs club holds a couple of hundred, we have 13000 STs - although I appreciate all would not want to attend, it couldn't possibly be a free for all.

***blackpoolhibs*** · 17-11-2017 06:47 AM

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I believe Rod said that they decided to release the statement because of pressure the fans reps were under and they kept bringing it up at board meetings?
Frank then said the majority of fans were in favour of moving on?
Which one is it? Is someone telling porkies?
Can someone who was at the meeting confirm?

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I hope people remember that when the next elections come along, that is just bull****.

***Golden Bear*** · 17-11-2017 07:20 AM

Originally Posted by BigKev

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Who did Frank speak to to get the impression the fans were happy to move on? I've not met a Hibs fan who was happy at the club's statement.

I must be mixing with the wrong crowd...

Conversely I've not met a single Hibs fan who doesn't want to move on. They tend to be like me , only interested in the fortunes and welfare of their own team.

**marinello59** · 17-11-2017 07:22 AM

The SFA will be loving this.
Our club has done nothing wrong.
The fans reps have done nothing wrong.
The HSA have done nothing wrong.
Rather than turning fire in on ourselves it should be directed at the guilty party, the SFA. Until fans of all clubs unite properly behind that and move on from merely whinging on the internet nothing will change.

**lyonhibs** · 17-11-2017 07:25 AM

Originally Posted by Golden Bear

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Conversely I've not met a single Hibs fan who doesn't want to move on. They tend to be like me , only interested in the fortunes and welfare of their own team.

Correct

**Killiehibbie** · 17-11-2017 07:34 AM

Originally Posted by Golden Bear

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Conversely I've not met a single Hibs fan who doesn't want to move on. They tend to be like me , only interested in the fortunes and welfare of their own team.

If our teams plays in a rigged league is there any point?

***CockneyRebel*** · 17-11-2017 07:43 AM

Originally Posted by marinello59

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The SFA will be loving this.
Our club has done nothing wrong.
The fans reps have done nothing wrong.
The HSA have done nothing wrong.
Rather than turning fire in on ourselves it should be directed at the guilty party, the SFA. Until fans of all clubs unite properly behind that and move on from merely whinging on the internet nothing will change.

The SFA are the original guilty party - the fans reps are the current guilty party along with the board, The reps come out of this as "yes men" to the board when they should be "yes men" to the majority view of the supporters. If we continue with fan reps then these two simply have to go.

**Ozyhibby** · 17-11-2017 07:46 AM

Originally Posted by marinello59

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The SFA will be loving this.
Our club has done nothing wrong.
The fans reps have done nothing wrong.
The HSA have done nothing wrong.
Rather than turning fire in on ourselves it should be directed at the guilty party, the SFA. Until fans of all clubs unite properly behind that and move on from merely whinging on the internet nothing will change.

The SFA is the clubs. If you want to change the SFA you have to change the outlook of your club.

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**Ozyhibby** · 17-11-2017 07:48 AM

Originally Posted by Golden Bear

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Conversely I've not met a single Hibs fan who doesn't want to move on. They tend to be like me , only interested in the fortunes and welfare of their own team.

Our fortunes are being hampered by other clubs being able to buy players they otherwise can’t afford using offshore money.

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***PatHead*** · 17-11-2017 07:49 AM

Originally Posted by Golden Bear

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Conversely I've not met a single Hibs fan who doesn't want to move on. They tend to be like me , only interested in the fortunes and welfare of their own team.

That is why I said the vote should have been split. I know there are fans who want to move on even though I don’t go to the matches with them.

***Baldy Foghorn*** · 17-11-2017 07:55 AM

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I hope people remember that when the next elections come along, that is just bull****.

Frank can't stand again anyway, so that will keep you happy I assume.....

***BigKev*** · 17-11-2017 07:56 AM

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Conversely I've not met a single Hibs fan who doesn't want to move on. They tend to be like me , only interested in the fortunes and welfare of their own team.

Only being interested in your own team?

How about Rangers probably doing Hibs out of money by their cheating? Knocking us out of cups with players illegally registered? Taking our manager with promises of riches? Signing our players with increased sponsorship and prize money?

No? Let's just move on, it was all ok 😩

With fans meekly accepting Rangers and their tainted titles Scottish football will remain under the thumb of a clueless regime and the same thing will happen again.

***Baldy Foghorn*** · 17-11-2017 07:57 AM

Funny where we have had HSA putting out statements, to be met with "they don't speak for the support", they then hold a meeting for members, and non members complain about not gaining access.....Haha priceless

***Baldy Foghorn*** · 17-11-2017 07:58 AM

Originally Posted by BigKev

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Only being interested in your own team?

How about Rangers probably doing Hibs out of money by their cheating? Knocking us out of cups with players illegally registered? Taking our manager with promises of riches? Signing our players with increased sponsorship and prize money?

No? Let's just move on, it was all ok 😩

With fans meekly accepting Rangers and their tainted titles Scottish football will remain under the thumb of a clueless regime and the same thing will happen again.

So we keep hounding OUR Club??

Why not focus attention at the governing body.

Let's focus on the positive things Hibs are doing.....

***CallumLaidlaw*** · 17-11-2017 07:59 AM

Originally Posted by Golden Bear

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Conversely I've not met a single Hibs fan who doesn't want to move on. They tend to be like me , only interested in the fortunes and welfare of their own team.

Agreed, my group of around 10 were all quite happy with the statement and the intention of moving on.

In fact the general feeling around the meeting last night was "really?!?!?" And if only 40 showed up, that seems to be the general feeling.

People are saying that there's no way the general feeling that Frank got was that most people wanted to move on....well, a question.... did anyone actually go and find Frank to tell him they weren't happy? I've not seen anyone say they have.

***Baldy Foghorn*** · 17-11-2017 07:59 AM

Originally Posted by marinello59

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The SFA will be loving this.
Our club has done nothing wrong.
The fans reps have done nothing wrong.
The HSA have done nothing wrong.
Rather than turning fire in on ourselves it should be directed at the guilty party, the SFA. Until fans of all clubs unite properly behind that and move on from merely whinging on the internet nothing will change.