Hearts' New Stand Thread (Merged)

[G B Young]

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Hardly worth repeating, but they still don't have a certificate of temporary occupation for the new stand, or even been issued with a building warrant for the supporters bar, the club shop, the TV studio etc.

Applications for the building warrants were made back in April/May but so far nothing has been issued, but they've gone ahead and built and opened the facilities.

The new nursery is even stranger. No building warrant, but a certificate of temporary occupation was issued .

Don't suppose AllisBarry raises any of that.

None of this is ever raised by the EN. I can only assume they're worried Hearts will stop talking to them if they raise any awkward questions.

Out of interest, have you ever pointed any of this out to the EN or indeed the media at large and if so, has anyone given you the impression they're interested in looking into it? It's the sort of thing that reporters back in the day might at least have done a bit of digging around. These days it appears that clubs simply issue a press release and guys like AllisBarry do little more than swallow it whole.

[Alan62]

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"Ann Budge has commissioned extra cash..." What does that mean?!

Perhaps 'commissioned', like 'plush' is a word that Barry hasn't quite understood. Unless of course he's using it in the sense of 'bringing something in to working condition' - like the changing rooms which will be 'commissioned' in a year or two's time.

[Bostonhibby]

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Perhaps 'commissioned', like 'plush' is a word that Barry hasn't quite understood. Unless of course he's using it in the sense of 'bringing something in to working condition' - like the changing rooms which will be 'commissioned' in a year or two's time.

They "commissioned" a "plush" corporate area with views of the castle and look how that worked out.

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[itslegaltender]

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None of this is ever raised by the EN. I can only assume they're worried Hearts will stop talking to them if they raise any awkward questions.

Out of interest, have you ever pointed any of this out to the EN or indeed the media at large and if so, has anyone given you the impression they're interested in looking into it? It's the sort of thing that reporters back in the day might at least have done a bit of digging around. These days it appears that clubs simply issue a press release and guys like AllisBarry do little more than swallow it whole.

I think there is quite a few Hibees blocked by AllisBarry on twitter, difficult to challenge him now.

[Bostonhibby]

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I think there is quite a few Hibees blocked by AllisBarry on twitter, difficult to challenge him now.

Think that stems from when he got mocked for his use of yamanomics around their self sufficient period when he got his millions mixed up with his thousands in an article?



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[Peevemor]

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I see from today’s Evening news that the cost has risen to £18 million !!! States that the new main stand holds 7,290 seats. What does the Roseburn/gorgie/ wheatfield take the attendance figure up to now. When was the last time they had 20k watching a match ?


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[greenginger]

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Talking to a work colleague today. He lives in McLeod St. His block of flats has sustained damage during the construction to the tune of 80k. There’s a bun fight going on about who pays for the repairs. It happened during the driving of the piles.

Had a look at this on my way past this morning.

The bulge in the front of the tenement has increased, and a second floor sash and case window, where the bulge is most pronounced, has separated from the stone surround. There is about a 4 inch gap between the wooden casement and the stonework with a chance the whole thing could fall to the street below.

Has your work colleague had any updates as to how the building will be repaired ?

[lapsedhibee]

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"Ann Budge has commissioned extra cash..." What does that mean?

Means that poppy charity coffers are full at this time of year, and ripe for another raid.

[JimBHibees]

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Allisbarry's latest piece is the biggest pile of succulent lamb journalism since Jabba was in his pomp.

What an absolute pile of sycophantic nonsense. Everything is given a positive spin. Somehow a huge overspend is made to look like an opportunity to do something even better. Bad planning has become serendipity. Does he even know what the word 'plush' means? Has he seen the photos of the 'major hospitality and conference destination'?

In these Trumpian times when fake is the news, apparently the bigger the lies you tell, the more people believe you.

All is, indeed, barry while you're squashed into a tiny little seat, rain lashing your laptop, knees wrapped round the ears of the guy in front of you, surrounded by hostile punters because there's no designated access route to the 'press box'. £18M and rising. Bargain.

[Jack Hackett]

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Means that poppy charity coffers are full at this time of year, and ripe for another raid.

The 'famous' wouldn't stoop as low as to steal from a charity with connections to the war they won... Would they?

Naaah!

[Seveno]

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Had a look at this on my way past this morning.

The bulge in the front of the tenement has increased, and a second floor sash and case window, where the bulge is most pronounced, has separated from the stone surround. There is about a 4 inch gap between the wooden casement and the stonework with a chance the whole thing could fall to the street below.

Has your work colleague had any updates as to how the building will be repaired ?

Surely the Main Contractor will have been required to arranged insurance under JCT Clause 21.2.1?

Oh wait, there wasn’t a Main Contractor was there?

[Smartie]

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Allisbarry's latest piece is the biggest pile of succulent lamb journalism since Jabba was in his pomp.

What an absolute pile of sycophantic nonsense. Everything is given a positive spin. Somehow a huge overspend is made to look like an opportunity to do something even better. Bad planning has become serendipity. Does he even know what the word 'plush' means? Has he seen the photos of the 'major hospitality and conference destination'?

In these Trumpian times when fake is the news, apparently the bigger the lies you tell, the more people believe you.

All is, indeed, barry while you're squashed into a tiny little seat, rain lashing your laptop, knees wrapped round the ears of the guy in front of you, surrounded by hostile punters because there's no designated access route to the 'press box'. £18M and rising. Bargain.

Aye, but at least you're close enough to rain sectarian abuse down on opposition managers, and if he gives a bit back you don't have far to go to get your hand into your pocket to hoy a coin at him.

[greenlex]

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Had a look at this on my way past this morning.

The bulge in the front of the tenement has increased, and a second floor sash and case window, where the bulge is most pronounced, has separated from the stone surround. There is about a 4 inch gap between the wooden casement and the stonework with a chance the whole thing could fall to the street below.

Has your work colleague had any updates as to how the building will be repaired ?

Nope. Still a bun fight going on. He reckons the biggest problem is the majority of the flats are in the rental sector and getting everyone on the same page to collectively push it on us almost impossible. Absent landlords not giving it their immediate attention it seems.

[Keith_M]

Even taking off the 1 million they splashed out on the pitch, the (currently estimated*) cost has increased from 12 to 17 million, i.e. a 41.6% increase on the original estimate.

For that, they'll have a single tier stand, with no dedicated Director's Box**, Executive Seating with no dedicated entry***, no Executive boxes, seats at the end with a blocked view and a hastily constructed TV Studio, also without a dedicated entry****.


All that and they now expect to finish it roughly 18 months late.


* That's only the current estimate, with further increases likely
** Director's are down the front, open to the rain, and have to enter and exit with the fans.
*** All that extra money and they also have to enter and exit with the rest of the fans,
**** ....as do the TV Pundits.



Meanwhile, Hibs finished a Two Tier, fully fitted Stand, a proper Director's Area with it's own entrance, a large Press Area, a Restaurant with a view of the pitch...on time and on budget for less than half that price.

[Famous Fiver]

And fully paid for from profits, no sugar daddies, gullible fans or poppy tins involved.

[greenlex]

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Even taking off the 1 million they splashed out on the pitch, the (currently estimated*) cost has increased from 12 to 17 million, i.e. a 41.6% increase on the original estimate.

For that, they'll have a single tier stand, with no dedicated Director's Box**, Executive Seating with no dedicated entry***, no Executive boxes, seats at the end with a blocked view and a hastily constructed TV Studio, also without a dedicated entry****.


All that and they now expect to finish it roughly 18 months late.


* That's only the current estimate, with further increases likely
** Director's are down the front, open to the rain, and have to enter and exit with the fans.
*** All that extra money and they also have to enter and exit with the rest of the fans,
**** ....as do the TV Pundits.



Meanwhile, Hibs finished a Two Tier, fully fitted Stand, a proper Director's Area with it's own entrance, a large Press Area, a Restaurant with a view of the pitch...on time and on budget for less than half that price.

Aye but they were able to keep playing at Tynecastle with minimum dusrution during the construction by basically building the new stand round the old one before demolis..................no wait a minute.

[Bostonhibby]

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Had a look at this on my way past this morning.

The bulge in the front of the tenement has increased, and a second floor sash and case window, where the bulge is most pronounced, has separated from the stone surround. There is about a 4 inch gap between the wooden casement and the stonework with a chance the whole thing could fall to the street below.

Has your work colleague had any updates as to how the building will be repaired ?

Maybe the good doctor was able to ignore normal project management and construction rules because they "commissioned" a "plush" bulge in local gable end walls as part of the overall local community benefits proposal?

Maybe there's a connected journalist that could put a spin on this side benefit?

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[Jack Hackett]

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Aye but they were able to keep playing at Tynecastle with minimum dusrution during the construction by basically building the new stand round the old one before demolis..................no wait a minute.

A minute?

#allisbarry trumpeting work commencing on 18th Nov '16

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.c...gins-1-4293112

We have an upcoming anniversary folks

[greenginger]

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Nope. Still a bun fight going on. He reckons the biggest problem is the majority of the flats are in the rental sector and getting everyone on the same page to collectively push it on us almost impossible. Absent landlords not giving it their immediate attention it seems.

The Council has a number to report unsafe buildings.

The way the sash and case window is detached from its surrounds makes it qualify.



http://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/info/201...rgency_repairs

It might get the other owners attention if they got a letter from the Council.

[jacomo]

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Barry at his best

The £18m total incorporates the cost of the stadium’s plush new main stand, a new piping and heating system, a fans’ bar, dressing rooms, corporate suites and restaurants, the Foundation Plaza, a new £1m hybrid pitch, redevelopment beneath the Wheatfield Stand, plus other smaller improvements in the surrounding area.

Read more at: https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.c...-18m-1-4827850

Imagine, dressing rooms in a new main stand. What a concept

Budge wants to ‘do something special’ with the ‘highest standards possible’?

Didn’t realise she was going to knock it down and start from scratch. That will certainly increase the budget.

[weecounty hibby]

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A minute?

#allisbarry trumpeting work commencing on 18th Nov '16

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.c...gins-1-4293112

We have an upcoming anniversary folks

No way!! two full years and still not complete? It almost makes you wonder if there was something else that happened in 2016 that forced their hand in trying to get some positive news regarding Poppy Thieves FC. Anyone think what that could have been?

[EastCalderHibby]

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They don't use them because they aren't there yet.

Plush.

Did the queen forget to order them seats as well deary me

[Keith_M]

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A minute?

#allisbarry trumpeting work commencing on 18th Nov '16

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.c...gins-1-4293112

We have an upcoming anniversary folks

"The entire project is due for completion in September 2017 and will finish the rebuilding of the stadium."


Funny that, cos the same AllIsBarry just told us that it will now be some time in Season 2019/20, i.e at least two years late.

[Bostonhibby]

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Budge wants to ‘do something special’ with the ‘highest standards possible’?

Didn’t realise she was going to knock it down and start from scratch. That will certainly increase the budget.

Anyone thinking a statue might be in the offing?

All in the best possible taste naturally. Their most successful modern day owner - 18 ft tall polystyrene statue of agent Romanov, dressed in maroon faux suede, one hand pointed skyward as if pointing to the stand they could have had if he'd hung around, and in the other a big sack with a £ sign on it.

[greenlex]

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The Council has a number to report unsafe buildings.

The way the sash and case window is detached from its surrounds makes it qualify.



http://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/info/201...rgency_repairs

It might get the other owners attention if they got a letter from the Council.

[cocteautwin]

So, £17m (and rising) for a decidedly average new stand.

Does anyone know how this compares to other football stands recently built around the country? Is this good value or has someone seriously messed up . . . . . or is someone at it with a bit of money laundering?

[Gloucester Hibs]

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Allisbarry's latest piece is the biggest pile of succulent lamb journalism since Jabba was in his pomp.

Succulent chip journalism you mean!

[Kojock]

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So, £17m (and rising) for a decidedly average new stand.

Does anyone know how this compares to other football stands recently built around the country? Is this good value or has someone seriously messed up . . . . . or is someone at it with a bit of money laundering?

ER costs:

Famous Five and South Stands 1995 - about £7m all in for the two
West Stand 2001 about £7m
East Stand 2010 £6m

So £20m in total for a fully fit for purpose stadium with directors box, dressing rooms, hospitality suites, press box etc. Oh and add 5 million for East Mains not a bad bit of business compared to the 17 million f@@@ up.

[Deansy]

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https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.c...-18m-1-4827850

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So, £17m (and rising) for a decidedly average new stand.

Does anyone know how this compares to other football stands recently built around the country? Is this good value or has someone seriously messed up . . . . . or is someone at it with a bit of money laundering?

It struggles to reach the giddy heights of a 'decidely average new stand' !

[jacomo]

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Anyone thinking a statue might be in the offing?

All in the best possible taste naturally. Their most successful modern day owner - 18 ft tall polystyrene statue of agent Romanov, dressed in maroon faux suede, one hand pointed skyward as if pointing to the stand they could have had if he'd hung around, and in the other a big sack with a £ sign on it.

Surely a statue of Queen of Hearts in her Jesus pose would finish off the Plaza nicely?