Listening to the car radio this afternoon I heard mention of a Liverpool player called Mamadou Sakho being banned for failing a drugs test, apparently after their Europa League win over Manchester United. I tend not to pay too much attention to English football these days and was only tuning in to see how Leicester were getting on today, so I must have missed this news when it happened.
Given the drugs furore around athletics and tennis at present, should this not be bigger news? And how come only the player and not the team get banned? In athletics, for instance, I'm sure I recall a whole Great Britain relay team getting stripped of medals because one of them tested positive for drugs.
Now, I gather that the Uefa ruling is that more than two players in a football team need to test positive for the whole team to be punished which strikes me as nonsense. Whether it's one player or all eleven, the team is handed an unfair advantage. Under this ruling the message is basically that it's OK for some of your team to be on drugs. Seems wrong to me.
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01-05-2016 02:28 PM #1
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Should Liverpool have been kicked out of the Europa League?
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01-05-2016 02:34 PM #2
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No, the player should be banned and not the team.
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01-05-2016 02:37 PM #3
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Precedent has already been set as I recall. Teams are not punished for a single case.
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01-05-2016 02:50 PM #5
If the rules are that it is the player and not the team then that's what has to happen but rules can be changed. Would be a good rule to bring in though.
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01-05-2016 03:07 PM #6
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But yes they should be kicked out they have cheated & had an unfair advantage over other team.
Let's hope they don't make the final as their fans are animals abroad.
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01-05-2016 03:25 PM #8
I'm sure Scouse Hibee will have a view on this.
Probably arguments both ways but I think there has been no expulsion yet because the positive drugs result on Sakho is still to be ratified. He could still be "innocent". Without his goal in last round against Dortmund, they wouldn't be in the semis, so there is still something to "sort out" if he is definitely guilty IMO.Last edited by hibby6270; 01-05-2016 at 04:19 PM.
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It's BS to ignore one positive drugs test, particularly when the player in question has had such an influence on the match.Mature, sensible signature required for responsible position. Good prospects for the right candidate. Apply within.
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01-05-2016 04:53 PM #12
Nope. I don't like pool but one player shouldn't ruin the chances of the rest getting a medal.
That's like saying if Hibs players were caught with doping should we be punted out the league?
Punish the player not the team.
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01-05-2016 04:53 PM #13
I would ban them even without any drug taking incidents taking place, but that's another matter entirely.
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01-05-2016 05:00 PM #14
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The only real reason for Sakho to take a diuretic is to mask another drug, as it doesn't really act as a PED. We'll probably never know what that other drug is/was.
He should get a 2 year ban, but will probably plead guilty, cite some lame excuse and get off with 12 months.
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01-05-2016 05:24 PM #18
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I've now done a bit more reading up on this and the same player went on to score a key goal to keep the tie alive against Dortmund in the next round. That for me is a case for the game being replayed or possibly even forfeited by Liverpool. As I said, I'm really surprised by how lenient the Uefa rules are on this sort of thing. If Liverpool were to go on and win this tournament it would carry a tainted feel about it.
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01-05-2016 05:32 PM #19This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Any more of a tainted feel than a player diving to win a penalty, and getting a key goal?
the rules say the player is to be punished in this situation, not the team.
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Difference being the club knew he was ineligible yet still played him, Sakho did what he did without Liverpool's knowledge, different things.
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The Legia guy played for a few minutes at the end of a tie that was already finished, but Sakho has played a major role in Liverpool making it to the semis so in that respect it is different things.
All I want is consistency and that is not being applied when the effect of fielding a player who has cheated is ignored. Had the Legia result stood then it would be consistent not to punish Liverpool.Mature, sensible signature required for responsible position. Good prospects for the right candidate. Apply within.
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01-05-2016 07:12 PM #24This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Bin him an'a
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01-05-2016 07:44 PM #26
As mentioned before after the amount of money they spent on Caroll and Benteke I don't think he's the only one who'd fail a drugs test
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Scouse, our bet's off pal!*
*Disclaimer - Only if Liverpool win the Europa League and Manchester Utd fail to win the FA Cup. If Liverpool fail to win the Europa League then the bet stands.
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