The reason I've been concerned about how much actual expertise and experience that the team have is that I am not convinced that there would be enough knowlege and understanding to make this work.
These anwers have underlined this to me - not much understanding, not much detail. When you talk up your credentials you have to be able to deliver the area of expertise you say you have.
After all, this is the board of a company that want to own Hibs.
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21-11-2014 08:27 AM #1051
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2017.
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21-11-2014 09:07 AM #1055
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Edit: I'm not sure they fully understand in their answer either the difference between voting at AGMs and board decisions - they are talking about voting on board matters and asking the membership with one vote per member. Totally impractical to do this on all board decisions. You don't tend to get much voting on board anyway, it is a collegiate decision generally.Last edited by Andy74; 21-11-2014 at 09:19 AM.
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21-11-2014 09:08 AM #1056This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
It is well known that the Board has been consulting widely with supporters and is fine tuning its strategy for the future of the Club.
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Me too. Let's face it, we could fill it no bother
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I am becoming more and more impressed by this BuyHibs group. They are a little naïve but very well intentioned and I have decided to make a pledge.
No money changes hands as yet but I am happy to give them my qualified support and allow things to develop.
I can't say I know any of the posters here but there does seem to be a lot of very closed minds unwilling to listen fairly to anything that is just a little different from the norm.
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21-11-2014 01:43 PM #1066
Personally I don't think DD funds are a viable long term proposition, and I expect FoH will find people steadily dropping away at Hearts. It's a bit alarming when such a source of funding is referred to as a way of bolstering the player budget year on year.
However, it is possible that you could use this scheme to build up a buy out fund, and then replace it with something else. As it stands, season ticket holders are the biggest investors in the club year in year out, and something that builds upon this model - maybe a lower-priced membership scheme - could be the way forward.
The focus should be on filling ER - that in itself would address many issues.
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I dont see any closed minds at all. Just lots of challenge which you have to expect.Last edited by Andy74; 21-11-2014 at 02:04 PM.
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21-11-2014 02:24 PM #1068
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Fundamentally I like the structure of fan involvement in the running of a football club to a greater or lesser extent. This doesn't have to be outright ownership and the BuyHibs people seem to recognise this.
I agree everything should be challenged but there seems to be some posters who find one or two things they don't like and immediately call everything a shambles, fiasco or every other negative adjective they can conjure.
Where do you stand? What do you like/not like?Last edited by The Baldmans Comb; 21-11-2014 at 02:33 PM.
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My understanding is that after Forever Hibernian made an offer of £1 for the club (debt free), they were told to go away and come back with something that was workable.
BuyHibs is their answer.
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21-11-2014 02:31 PM #1070This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote"There's class, there's first class and there's Hibs class" - Eddie Turnbull
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Is that where Craig Whyte has been hiding !
Even he did'nt have the nerve to ask Murray to pay off the Rangers debts before he let himself out.
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21-11-2014 03:17 PM #1073
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I haven't seen anything that suggests I need to be thinking about owning the club.
I don't like the timing. We have to be together at this time I think and supporting the changes the club are making.
I don't like the fact it is going against what the consulatations and club survey returned in terms of appetite for this.
As for the group, I am not impressed with the quality of the expertise. I really dislike the fact that their experience has been talked up to be something its not in some cases. I think it has been badly thought out and badly delivered.
Have they got investors or not? Depends who you ask - there is some suggestion that fans in Australia got to hear some names - we didn't.
The one vote per member thing illustrates some lack of knowledge - their thinking is a bit mixed up and is confusing board membership and decision making with shareholder voting at the AGM. Members won't own any shares so I'm not sure what the mechanism they are talking about is and i don't think they know.
Their idea that the debt will be written off is frankly laughable and their examples aren't comparable.
They don't seem to understand interest versus dividend. Either way I'm not in favour of profit leaving the club.
I'm certainly not in favour of them backing out of talking to the Board. Their Communications Director, on the PM board, welcomed the statement form Leeann on the day it came out as positive news, now though, they don't want to talk. Seems to me like a pressure group, not a sensible approach.
There's more but I'm sure that gives some idea..
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21-11-2014 03:27 PM #1074
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Thank you -you've saved me a lot of keying.
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There is Buy-Hibs, HoH, Forever Hibernian, who will be next to throw their hat in the ring ?
For me there is too much " spin" and not enough hard business acumen on view !!
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I am more than willing to listen, I want to be convinced.
But all I hear back is (well intentioned though i'm sure it is) fairly amateurish and ill thought-out.
Given football's ability to attract clowns, shysters etc, I think we should all be very sceptical. The burden of proof is on those seeking our support.
What's more, they should welcome the scrutiny, they should welcome their personal credentials being called into question.
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21-11-2014 03:42 PM #1077
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It's either a dividend(discretionary)or an interest payment(compulsory)can't be both.
If I loaned a million quid at 10% interest, after 5 years I would have got the equivalent of half my money back but still be due the whole lot of it.
If anyone was to get a return from Scottish football it would be the first time since Fergus at Celtic-apart from the mafia at Ibrox.
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If people are wanting to invest in Hibs fine but not a loan.TOP CASH BACK
The easy way to make money
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