I've read that some knuckle draggers are moaning about the 'Hanlon' hand ball & Scotty Allan's tackle (that was admittedly a bad one).
However, could someone clarify what the rule is on sending offs for a player denied a clear goal scoring opportunity please?
If the ref thinks that Jamie McLaren gets brought down in the box and deems it to be a penalty, why then is there no red card to follow?
I believe there is now no such thing as 'last man' but they change the terminology of the rules that often that I am confused as to what the rules are.
A straight rec card for being 'last man' and denying us a clear goal scoring opportunity would have meant that lot playing 80 minutes with 10 men, who knows what difference that might have made in the game?
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Thread: Why No Red Card at the Penalty?
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14-05-2018 10:39 AM #1
Why No Red Card at the Penalty?
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14-05-2018 10:40 AM #2This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Clearly he didn't so should have seen red.
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14-05-2018 10:41 AM #3This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I think there is some sort of double jeapordy rule now where you don't get punished twice (pen & red card) Don't know why he didn't get a yellow card though.
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14-05-2018 10:42 AM #4This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
By the way, how bad is Bates, just wish Rangers had offered him a better contract🤣
Won’t last long at Hamburg
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14-05-2018 10:44 AM #5
I'm wondering if the referee was trying to use the new-ish double jeopardy rule (where you don't get carded at a penalty). I think it only applies, though, where the foul was deemed 'accidental'. There was nothing accidental about that, so he should have been off.
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14-05-2018 10:46 AM #6
Good question.
From Law 12.3:
Where a player commits an offence against an opponent within their own penalty area which denies an opponent an obvious goal-scoring opportunity and the referee awards a penalty kick, the offender is cautioned if the offence was an attempt to play the ball; in all other circumstances (e.g. holding, pulling, pushing, no possibility to play the ball etc.) the offending player must be sent off.
I can only presume Dallas did not consider it to be an obvious goal-scoring opportunity.
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14-05-2018 10:46 AM #7This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
“making an opportunity to play the ball”
Which obviously he wasn’t
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14-05-2018 10:51 AM #8
To be fair I think Dallas is right..Jamie was getting nowhere near that cross (As Cliff Pike points out in the Hibs.net commentary) if you watch it again I can't see any way he would have got there before the goalie, so it was a foul in the box (non dangerous shove/push) that didn't deny a clear goal scoring chance, therefore a penalty, but not a card.
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If Dallas did not consider it to be an obvious goal-scoring opportunity why did he award a penalty then?
Could have made a HUGE difference to the game, especially the way we started the game.
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It does need to be a goalscoring opportunity and no attempt made to play the ball, in order to be a red card.
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14-05-2018 11:57 AM #16
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He wasn't Thomson-like by any means, but not sure I'd call the performance decent at the same time
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14-05-2018 12:13 PM #18
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These are the categories for a red card (from Wikipedia):
Law 12 of the Laws of the Game lists the categories of misconduct for which a player may be sent off. These are:
Serious foul play
Violent conduct
Spitting at an opponent or any other person
Denying the opposing team a goal or an obvious goalscoring opportunity by deliberately handling the ball (this does not apply to a goalkeeper within his own penalty area)
Deliberate fouls that deny an obvious goalscoring opportunity to an opponent moving towards the player's goal.
Using offensive, insulting or abusive language and/or gestures
Receiving a second caution in the same match
Serious foul play is a foul committed using excessive force (i.e., "the player...is in danger of injuring his opponent").
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14-05-2018 12:54 PM #20
Everybody round me in the west was astounded that there was no card at all.
I thought a yellow was automatic for a 'professional foul', and red for being the last man. I don't know about red, but there's no excuse for not at least giving a yellow card.
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14-05-2018 01:01 PM #21
I thought red at the game but seeong the replay I don't think Maclaren would've got to the ball.
Yellow would've been correct imo.
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