Official Site: AGYEPONG SIGNS HIBERNIAN LOAN DEAL

[TonyStokeprano]

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I imagined the deleted post then.

Oh rite sorry for saying bellend after youd patronized me asking if I'm ok and calling me hun, I'm ever so sorry.

[danhibees1875]

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This threads going well.

I think I've heard that one a few times recently.

[CropleyWasGod]

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We will be paying Man City nothing for the duration of his loan? Surprised people know the finer details of the agreement tbh.

I misunderstood your post.... this thread is getting quite fraught

I meant we are paying them nowt at the moment.

[Allant1981]

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I really don't think they can. He has no visa or work permit to work for them.

im sure they were paying his wages when he was out on loan previously, was this because he had the right to work in that country? its all a bit mind boggling for me!!

[CapitalGreen]

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Oh rite sorry for saying bellend after youd patronized me asking if I'm ok and calling me hun, I'm ever so sorry.

chill out luv

[CapitalGreen]

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this thread is getting quite fraught

You're not wrong!

[SirDavidsNapper]

All seems a bit of a shambles. Can see Agyepong featuring in a few pub related quizzes in the future. The man who signed but never made it into the country

[CropleyWasGod]

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im sure they were paying his wages when he was out on loan previously, was this because he had the right to work in that country? its all a bit mind boggling for me!!

Indeed, it was a different situation then. He had the luxury of working in a country where visas are less of an issue.

[Allant1981]

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Indeed, it was a different situation then. He had the luxury of working in a country where visas are less of an issue.

so if he doesnt get a visa he doesnt get paid? that seems a bit crazy, surely his contract is legally binding regardless if he gets a work visa or not?

[Hibernian Verse]

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And if said permit is refused, then what?

Then I'd assume Man City will cancel the loan deal. But it won't be.

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[The_Horde]

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There is an agreement, but if he can't complete his end of it (ie can't work), the contract is resiled. ie cancelled.

Sorry mate, but for me that's an incomplete deal.

I've just bought a car on finance, the deal is complete but I've got credit checks to complete.

[CropleyWasGod]

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so if he doesnt get a visa he doesnt get paid? that seems a bit crazy, surely his contract is legally binding regardless if he gets a work visa or not?

He can't fulfil his end of the contract, though, so it could be argued that (through his inability to obtain a visa), he's in breach.

We can't know what's in the contract, of course... City might have undertaken to arrange the visa and work permit, in which case it's their responsibility and liability for the wages. There may have been a "doomsday clause", whereby this kind of situation would result in a pay-off of £x.

[CropleyWasGod]

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Sorry mate, but for me that's an incomplete deal.

I've just bought a car on finance, the deal is complete but I've got credit checks to complete.

Ok, I am not a lawyer.

[CMurdoch]

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So what money would we be putting towards McGinn's replacement?

If the Anyepong deal goes through we would pay an agreed sum to Man City for his services for the season.
We already have Horgan for his position therefore if the Visa is not granted and the deal does not go through we don't need a replacement for his position.
We would then still have the cash we intended to spend on Angepong to put towards the wage or transfer fee of McGinn's replacement e.g. the Finnish guy at Dundee.

[Greenbeard]

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so if he doesnt get a visa he doesnt get paid? that seems a bit crazy, surely his contract is legally binding regardless if he gets a work visa or not?

Illegal to pay him if he doesn't have a work permit. Permits are also specific to an employer so if he had one for MC he would have to make a new application if Hibs are deemed to be his employer.

[BroxburnHibee]

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just tone down your response ? im no here to make friends im here to discuss football. as usual if youve no go the same view as the folk who spend their whole lives on hibs.net acquiring 10000 posts your viewed as some sort of clown.

As usual? Ok then.....

[CropleyWasGod]

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If the Anyepong deal goes through we would pay an agreed sum to Man City for his services for the season.
We already have Horgan for his position therefore if the Visa is not granted and the deal does not go through we don't need a replacement for his position.
We would then still have the cash we intended to spend on Angepong to put towards the wage or transfer fee of McGinn's replacement e.g. the Finnish guy at Dundee.

Do Finns need a visa?

Do Dundonians need one?

[CapitalGreen]

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If the Anyepong deal goes go through we would pay an agreed sum to Man City for his services for the season.

Do you know this for a fact, if so how much is it?
Man City covered Agyepong's wages on previous loans and paid the other club a development fee.

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We already have Horgan for his position therefore if the Visa is not granted and the deal does not go through we don't need a replacement for his position.

And if Horgan or Boyle was to be injured, who do we have as cover?

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We would then still have the cash we intended to spend on Angepong to put towards the wage or transfer fee of McGinn's replacement e.g. the Finnish guy at Dundee.

Are you saying that if we sign Agyepong, the budget committed for him will rule us out of a move for Kamara or any other central midfielder?

[SRHibs]

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As usual? Ok then.....

Get a life mate. TonyStokeprano has got some top, top banter that is going unappreciated purely because of his low post count. 🙈

[The_Horde]

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If the Anyepong deal goes through we would pay an agreed sum to Man City for his services for the season.
We already have Horgan for his position therefore if the Visa is not granted and the deal does not go through we don't need a replacement for his position.
We would then still have the cash we intended to spend on Angepong to put towards the wage or transfer fee of McGinn's replacement e.g. the Finnish guy at Dundee.

Except the manager clearly feels we do need more options for that position, or we wouldn't have signed him. So we would need to replace him.

[Allant1981]

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He can't fulfil his end of the contract, though, so it could be argued that (through his inability to obtain a visa), he's in breach.

We can't know what's in the contract, of course... City might have undertaken to arrange the visa and work permit, in which case it's their responsibility and liability for the wages. There may have been a "doomsday clause", whereby this kind of situation would result in a pay-off of £x.

glad its not me that has to sort it all out!

[My_Wife_Camille]

This thread perfectly encapsulates everything great about hibs.net

[Centre Hawf]

The way I see it we have told UEFA that we have agreed terms with City and signed Agyepong subject to a work a permit, all 3 parties I assume back this up and UEFA go "right no bother we'll put you down in the Hibs squad for when that comes through" he may even be registered at Hibs in general with the SFA and FIFA.

But I would be absolutely gobsmacked if we didn't have something in the contracts or negotiations that was "SUBJECT TO WORK PERMIT" so hopefully we're paying absolutely nout until he is legally able to play for us, and if that permit gets rejected we wave goodbye without paying a penny to him or Man City.

[Sean1875]

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As usual? Ok then.....

You're only on 9854 posts so youre safe

[calumhibee1]

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Sorry mate, but for me that's an incomplete deal.

I've just bought a car on finance, the deal is complete but I've got credit checks to complete.

From the fact he’s registered with us I would say the deal is complete. The deal would then have to be cancelled if he can’t get a visa.

Using the example you used, I’d say it’s more like taking out a car on finance, the deal is complete and you now have the car for 4 years. Only problem you now have is not being able to get it insured so you can’t use it. You’d then have to go back to the dealership and cancel the finance deal (unless for some reason you wanted to pay for it and never use it )

[Brightside]

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Sorry mate, but for me that's an incomplete deal.

I've just bought a car on finance, the deal is complete but I've got credit checks to complete.

Hes still signed though.... just so we are clear on that.

[The_Horde]

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Hes still signed though.... just so we are clear on that.

You can't take that as a scoop.

[HibsNutter]

Man City just had a work permit denied for a would-be first team player so there is no guarantee this will go ahead.

[Brightside]

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You can't take that as a scoop.

No - I leave the scoops to the experts.

[Hermit Crab]

Tony gets Scotland yard?