Official Site: WEST, EAST AND FAMOUS FIVE STANDS SOLD OUT FOR CELTIC

[Brooster]

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Hopefully we can sell at least the two sections in the lower.

If we can do that it’ll just about make it worthwhile IMO. It’s the nature of the game these days that even fans think about money first but it’ll be good to see a vastly reduced away support from both of them.

Spot on.

[HibbyAndy]

It may inspire the players to go grab a point or 3 if they see so many hibs fans , And that point could be the difference in league placings at the end of the season resulting in an extra few grand which would compensate the potential loss cutting the old squirms allocation

Id give the barstewards as little as possible , But that's me

[Nakedmanoncrack]

"Effectively" sold out, so not factually sold out.

[green day]

Whats the script with releasing my ST for this match?

[Keith_M]

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"Effectively" sold out, so not factually sold out.

All seats have been sold but some occasionally re-appear, from Season Ticket holders that can't make it releasing their seats.

Last time I looked, there were 7 single seats in section 50, plus a couple in the Executive Seating. There'll be another two in the West quite soon, when mine appear (moved to the south for this game)

[Elephant Stone]

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Aye, that's the one I mean. That wasn't a sarcastic comment, it was genuine.

Apologies.

[Col2]

Understand Celtic got 2400 and taking account of segregation then we have about 1200 to sell. I would expect us to sell another 3-400 so we will probably lose about £30k. Hibs are damned if they do and damned if they don’t. I would rather have faith in our supporters given the small margins.

[we are hibs]

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Understand Celtic got 2400 and taking account of segregation then we have about 1200 to sell. I would expect us to sell another 3-400 so we will probably lose about £30k. Hibs are damned if they do and damned if they don’t. I would rather have faith in our supporters given the small margins.

I'm pretty sure segregation means that the most they could get was around 1900.

[hibby6270]

I realise there will be the odd one or two ST holders who won’t be able to make it on Sunday but I really DO hope there’s at least 99% full capacity in the West, FF and East.
Despite large crowd figures being recorded for most home league games this season, there always seems to me a large number of “empty seats”.
Suppose this is the first Cat A home league game this season, so we should reasonably expect a full home support. Let’s make sure there is!!

[Ronniekirk]

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We've already sold 63, so that's a start

And that will be Season Ticket holders like yourself relocating We must have sold more than that

[scoopyboy]

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It won't be anywhere near a 60k loss per game. That presumes that a full 2,000 seats will be unsold in the south, which won't be the case. It also presumes that every Celtic fan would have paid full price for the ticket, which they wouldn't have and it also doesn't account for the 20% loss to VAT. We'll sell a few hundred in the south, it'll be closer to a 20k loss in my opinion and is well worth it.

I'll give you the £20,000 for the sake of argument although I think it will be more.

Hibs are trying to push HSL and getting the club to raise extra money, something I agree with.

However if the club are prepared to throw away £20,000 of guaranteed income then I'm wondering why I am actually bothering paying £18.75 a month or £225 a year. Basically it is the equivalent of nearly 100 punters paying the same as me over a year being written off on a Sunday afternoon.

Nobody seems to be objecting to Hearts getting the whole end but to me that is saying Hearts money is acceptable but Rangers and Celtic money is dirty and unacceptable. Same money to me.

[scoopyboy]

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I realise there will be the odd one or two ST holders who won’t be able to make it on Sunday but I really DO hope there’s at least 99% full capacity in the West, FF and East.
Despite large crowd figures being recorded for most home league games this season, there always seems to me a large number of “empty seats”.
Suppose this is the first Cat A home league game this season, so we should reasonably expect a full home support. Let’s make sure there is!!

Absolutely no chance.

[iwasthere1972]

Due to health problems, I haven't attended any home games this season despite having a season ticket. How do I go about releasing my seat for this match? Cheers.

[B.H.F.C]

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Nobody seems to be objecting to Hearts getting the whole end but to me that is saying Hearts money is acceptable but Rangers and Celtic money is dirty and unacceptable. Same money to me.

I’m not sure that’s the case. I think people just recognise that we’ll retain the full end at Tynecastle if we give them likewise at our place. If we cut their allocation, we’re down to 1,600 there and nobody wants that.

I am surprised the club have cut allocations for those two though.

[scoopyboy]

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I’m not sure that’s the case. I think people just recognise that we’ll retain the full end at Tynecastle if we give them likewise at our place. If we cut their allocation, we’re down to 1,600 there and nobody wants that.

I am surprised the club have cut allocations for those two though.

If Hibs supporters get close to filling the additional seats I will be delighted but if as I suspect they don't then we are just throwing money away.

We want the club to spend money in January to strengthen the squad but for me we are going to lose virtually guaranteed income.

I get your point about full ends being reciprocated for derbies but for me there are two sides to that argument. We are basically saying 16000 tickets is fine for a Hearts game but we need more for games against Rangers and Celtic at Easter Road.

It's a fine balance between supporters sentiments to wanting less Old Firm fans in the ground as opposed to maximising money from the fixtures.

To be honest I can see both sides of the argument.

I think the pricing of the Scottish Cup tie is another decision Hibs haven't got right but again that is up for debate.

[scoopyboy]

Awake early o'clock and couldn't get back to sleep which just sets my mind racing.

Spent a fair bit of time thinking about this and have came round to the conclusion that Hibs had to try it at some point, therefore not as concerned as I was yesterday / last night.

Hope it works, over and out.

[Real Emerald]

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Awake early o'clock and couldn't get back to sleep which just sets my mind racing.

Spent a fair bit of time thinking about this and have came round to the conclusion that Hibs had to try it at some point, therefore not as concerned as I was yesterday / last night.

Hope it works, over and out.

I totally agree with your first point in that it’s utter madness to be throwing away guaranteed income when every penny counts when we go shopping for players.

However, I also agree with your second point because I can’t see them trying it again if the stand has hundreds and hundreds of empty seats. There will be huge gaps in the home stands for this one too due to absent ST holders. Hope we can get a big final push to avoid embarrassing empty sections in the South stand.

[hfc rd]

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Due to health problems, I haven't attended any home games this season despite having a season ticket. How do I go about releasing my seat for this match? Cheers.

Contact the ticket office

[Real Emerald]

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I'll give you the £20,000 for the sake of argument although I think it will be more.

Hibs are trying to push HSL and getting the club to raise extra money, something I agree with.

However if the club are prepared to throw away £20,000 of guaranteed income then I'm wondering why I am actually bothering paying £18.75 a month or £225 a year. Basically it is the equivalent of nearly 100 punters paying the same as me over a year being written off on a Sunday afternoon.

Nobody seems to be objecting to Hearts getting the whole end but to me that is saying Hearts money is acceptable but Rangers and Celtic money is dirty and unacceptable. Same money to me.

Let’s just say for arguments sake Hibs lose out on £50k in South stand ticket sales over the two old firm games. It would take 222 years of you donating £18.75 a month to get that lost revenue back. It’s utter madness.

[hfc rd]

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I'll give you the £20,000 for the sake of argument although I think it will be more.

Hibs are trying to push HSL and getting the club to raise extra money, something I agree with.

However if the club are prepared to throw away £20,000 of guaranteed income then I'm wondering why I am actually bothering paying £18.75 a month or £225 a year. Basically it is the equivalent of nearly 100 punters paying the same as me over a year being written off on a Sunday afternoon.

Nobody seems to be objecting to Hearts getting the whole end but to me that is saying Hearts money is acceptable but Rangers and Celtic money is dirty and unacceptable. Same money to me.

I believe that their is a gentlemen’s agreement with Hearts. We get the whole Roseburn stand as long as they get the whole South stand. Works for me, as last thing I want is both clubs going down the route that the OF have now taken by cutting each other’s away allocations.

[Real Emerald]

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I believe that their is a gentlemen’s agreement with Hearts. We get the whole Roseburn stand as long as they get the whole South stand. Works for me, as last thing I want is both clubs going down the route that the OF have now taken by cutting each other’s away allocations.

Difference is the old firm are filling the vacated seats, it would appear that we’re leaving them unsold and losing revenue. Despite the club putting sold out signs on the home stands, which I don’t think they were sold out, we have only sold around 40 tickets in the South. Unless there’s a gigantic late rush for tickets, it’s going to be a big financial loss of what was guaranteed income. If we can’t fill these seats with our fans we should be selling them to visiting fans until we can.

[CB_NO3]

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I'll give you the £20,000 for the sake of argument although I think it will be more.

Hibs are trying to push HSL and getting the club to raise extra money, something I agree with.

However if the club are prepared to throw away £20,000 of guaranteed income then I'm wondering why I am actually bothering paying £18.75 a month or £225 a year. Basically it is the equivalent of nearly 100 punters paying the same as me over a year being written off on a Sunday afternoon.

Nobody seems to be objecting to Hearts getting the whole end but to me that is saying Hearts money is acceptable but Rangers and Celtic money is dirty and unacceptable. Same money to me.

What has you buying shares in Hibs got to do with selling an empty seat to some Celtic fan?

If you are so worried about it maybe you should email the club to say you think we should give Celtic the FF lower as well because it lies empty every week.

[Liberal Hibby]

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Difference is the old firm are filling the vacated seats, it would appear that we’re leaving them unsold and losing revenue. Despite the club putting sold out signs on the home stands, which I don’t think they were sold out, we have only sold around 40 tickets in the South. Unless there’s a gigantic late rush for tickets, it’s going to be a big financial loss of what was guaranteed income. If we can’t fill these seats with our fans we should be selling them to visiting fans until we can.

What if the effect of cutting the OF allocation is that we make the atmosphere more intimidating for them and a win more likely? Say we get three or four extra points as a result? We finish a couple of places higher as a result? How much does the club make as a result?

I'm in favour of everything that gives us a bigger home advantage and makes it more likely we win at Easter Road - it's where the vast majority of Hibs fans see us play and gives us the vast majority of our income.

[Real Emerald]

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What if the effect of cutting the OF allocation is that we make the atmosphere more intimidating for them and a win more likely? Say we get three or four extra points as a result? We finish a couple of places higher as a result? How much does the club make as a result?

I'm in favour of everything that gives us a bigger home advantage and makes it more likely we win at Easter Road - it's where the vast majority of Hibs fans see us play and gives us the vast majority of our income.

I’m all in favour of cutting their allocation too but not to have hundreds of unsold seats and lost income. The atmosphere will make no difference, if we’re good enough we’ll beat them like we did last season in front of a full South stand. It won’t be the number of Celtic fans at the game that determines the outcome.

[Carheenlea]

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Agree with this. Absolutely pathetic attitude from some of the so called Hibs supporters who seemed desperate to welcome as many Celtic fans as possible.

Well done Hibees, lets get the South sold now

Slot me down as a so called fan, but certainly nothing to do with “welcoming” Celtic fans - I was dubious about our chances of selling enough seats for this game to make a split south Stand viable, and if it was down to me I’d have made the decision to give Celtic the full stand. The club are obviously more confident though and given they are not renowned for being frivolous with finances we should trust they have done their sums and believe we can shift the numbers required.

[scoopyboy]

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What has you buying shares in Hibs got to do with selling an empty seat to some Celtic fan?

If you are so worried about it maybe you should email the club to say you think we should give Celtic the FF lower as well because it lies empty every week.

The connection is both give money to Hibs, quite disappointed you couldn't work that out for yourself.

If the FF lower is sold out then there is no money to be had irrespective if the seats lie empty or not. In the south if a seat is unsold it loses the club money. Again disappointed you couldn't have worked that out for yourself.

So there are two questions answered in a pleasant manner.

Also if you took time to read further down the thread you would see that after lying awake during the night I changed my view (#46).

Have a nice day.

[Ronniekirk]

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Awake early o'clock and couldn't get back to sleep which just sets my mind racing.

Spent a fair bit of time thinking about this and have came round to the conclusion that Hibs had to try it at some point, therefore not as concerned as I was yesterday / last night.

Hope it works, over and out.

Agree had to be tried at some point but fear circumstances mean timing is wrong Milligan and Harry now out Squad as well now

[cleanyman]

The famous five will still be empty

[Keith_M]

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Nobody seems to be objecting to Hearts getting the whole end but to me that is saying Hearts money is acceptable but Rangers and Celtic money is dirty and unacceptable. Same money to me.

How many tickets do we get at Tynecastle, and how many at Ibrox and Celtc Park.

Not the same thing at all.



EDIT: I realise you changed your mind later, but I still think it's worth pointing this out.

[Keith_M]

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The famous five will still be empty

As usual, the FF Lower will have loads of empty seats but sadly there's nothing the club can do, unless people make the effort to release them for re-sale.

That section of the ground is normally 'sold-out', or as good as, but I've never seen it even reach about two thirds full (and often a lot less than that). If our current era of decent crowds continue, maybe the club will have to think about what they're going to do about this in the long term.

Personally, I'd bump up the price of kids tickets to something a bit nearer the price in other parts of the stadium, but I realise that's more than a bit controversial.