I'm not a St Pats member by the way. And my reference to other posters and their inflated opinions of themselves was more of a wider forum reference. Those in the knowers and their faceless sources, the financial whizz kids who assured us of the Hearts demise, the tactical geniuses that don't go near a game and sit behind their laptops every Saturday..........as far as I can see the St Pats guys have taken a bit of initiative and did things that other branches would not even have considered in their decades of existence. And in doing so, they certainly engaged the club itself (the football club not the Hibs Club) in their activity. Maybe that's why Riley doesn't fancy them much. They're progressive. Maybe a bit too progressive for some of the Neanderthals that inhabit Sunnyside.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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30-03-2015 04:37 PM #61
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30-03-2015 04:40 PM #63This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
As for the highlighted bit .......... If you can explain what you mean by that without this thread being closed by the admins within half an hour of your post doing so I'll buy one of those daft jesters hats with the bells on from the Hibs shop and eat it.Last edited by NAE NOOKIE; 30-03-2015 at 04:43 PM.
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30-03-2015 04:43 PM #64This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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30-03-2015 04:43 PM #65
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30-03-2015 04:51 PM #66This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
You don't think that people might have an agenda? You speak of 'the HSA' as if St Pats were somehow not part of that very Association.
St Pats branch appear only to have done good things in their short existence. A few clearly don't like, or appreciate this. And I'm not talking about what one or two regular St Pats contributors post on here, that's not the issue. There are a great deal of St Pats people who don't come near here.
Now. Away and eat that hat!
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30-03-2015 04:53 PM #67This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Their progressive approach is outlined in previous posts.
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30-03-2015 04:56 PM #68This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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30-03-2015 04:58 PM #69This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
1.This meeting agrees that the principle function of the Association is not reflected in the
current rules and agrees to delete Rule 2 of the current rules and replace it as follows: -
The objective of the Association is to promote the interests of Hibernian FC and to act as the
focal point of interaction between members of the Association and the football club.
2.This meeting is aware that there was an attempt to exclude a member from the 2014 AGM
because he was and “out of town member”. To ensure that this discrimination cannot be
repeated this meeting agrees that all members of the Association are entitled to attend and
vote at General Meetings of the Association.
3.The meeting agrees that the current rule book has the rules of the social club placed before
the rules of the Association and therefore implies that the club is the more important. This
meeting believes that this undermines the value of the Association and the Trustees are
therefore instructed to reverse this by placing the Association rules first in order of the rule
book.
4.While we agree that the Hibernian Supporters Club is well run and complies fully with the
current rules it is delivered by elected volunteers working hard on behalf of members at a
cost of them having to carry the burden of an excessive workload in order to deliver the
requirements of both the management of the social club and representing members
interests as an association. This meeting is of the view that in light of the changing face of
Hibernian FC it may now be more appropriate to remove some of this onerous workload and
that the day to day management of the Hibernian Supporters Club is divested to a club
steward appointed by the Trustees.
In order that this may be achieved the Trustees are directed to consult with branches as to
how governance and accountability of such a change may be delivered and to present an
amended constitution and rule book to members by the end of this calendar year. This will
allow branches to submit any suggested amendments to the proposal prior to the 2016 AGM
and ensure that all arrangements are in place for implementation following that AGM.
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30-03-2015 05:04 PM #70
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30-03-2015 05:19 PM #71
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Whats the point of the HSC? What is it actually for? I've never understood all the branches etc. and what they are actually for.
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30-03-2015 05:26 PM #72This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
If the possible agenda you speak of is purely driven by jealousy or a reluctance by certain parties at the HSA to move forward then I'm with St Pat's on this .... hell mend them. But if there is more to it I want to hear it, which is why once again I would ask the branch to tell folk what their proposals are regarding changes to rules or procedures and the HSA to say what the problem they appear to have with St Pats is.
As things stand at the moment all this is, is a rant at Mike Riley for acting like a bully or a tool. If the HSA, and especially St Pat's who after all appear to have made this pubic, aren't prepared to put some meat on the bones I cant see what purpose there ever was in posting this in the first place if people aren't going to be given the information they need to make their minds up as to who is in the right.
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30-03-2015 05:30 PM #73This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I could show you old programmes from the 1950s with supporter club notes in them, some Branches exist to this day.
Some of those branches funded these buses by selling pontoon tickets and other means.
The club itself is a Social Club with a fairly big foothold in the community.
All the various branches form this association to which each member pays a yearly sub.
Kids Christmas parties.
OAP collections and parties.
Darts, dominoes, pool.
Cheap beer.
Big Function Hall for birthdays, barmitzvahs etc.
There will be a lot more. The Hibs Club is far from a bad thing and in 1990 was the one of the focal points of the saving of our football club. No question.
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30-03-2015 05:42 PM #74This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I think the Invisible Man has put some of the pieces together in his post a few back.
I'm not entirely sure that the OP is a St Pats member, so the going public bit on this Forum may not be the work of the Branch. And the goings on at AGM time have caused something of a stir on here before, around about the time especially that Mr Riley seized control.........
It would be extraordinary if that control amounted to the expelling of a healthy branch of fans from the Association merely for requesting change.
And some of the quotes from him on the thread are pretty explicit. He can always deny, challenge or retract. If not, then he is certainly sounding like the descriptive you offered.
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30-03-2015 05:42 PM #75
Now seen the St Pats proposals ... if that's it what the hell is all the fuss about, they all seem reasonable to me.
Of course number 4 I would imagine could see Mike Riley shifted sideways to run the social club with someone else taking the position as the head of ( and therefor spokesperson for ) the HSA ..... I doubt Mr Riley would be a fan of that idea right enough.
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30-03-2015 05:43 PM #76This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
ps. I looked up the plural of "bus" - doesn't look right to me.
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30-03-2015 05:50 PM #77This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I loved that section in the News.
I remember Albert Kidd Hibs Bus corresponding regularly at times of Yam strife!
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30-03-2015 05:54 PM #79
People's Popular Front of Judea says Back the Hibs and sack the pigs! Careful now!
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30-03-2015 06:08 PM #81
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I'm with the great Groucho and "would never be a member of any club that would have me as a member".Notwithstanding that I would like to stick my neb in.In all my years supporting Hibs nobody has ever asked me to join the Association nor has anyone ever said to me "I'm in the Hibs Supporters Association".As an outsider it seems a little confused (or I am).Who are the members of the Association?Is it the junior clubs or is it individuals?If the junior clubs does that mean they have to be mandated by their members to vote at an AGM?If individuals does that mean expelling St.Pat's would have no effect because St.Pat's is not a member -but its members are?If it's true that attempts are being made to pack the meeting then it's also time change took place.
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One thing is for sure though, we all have one thing in common: Hibernian Football Club and I dearly hope we can work together to get us back to our rightful place in Scottish football
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