Steve Clarke Charged

**MWHIBBIES** · 12-09-2018 11:35 PM

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Each to their own but I would like Hibs to be making sure that the rules are applied equally to all the clubs in the league.

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The rules are totally subjective though, they could easily worm their way out of it. They could also easily fine Hibs for it, total waste of time.

Best way to stick it up them is win, every week. Win big games, win trophies, win with Neil Lennon is charge.

***Sylar*** · 12-09-2018 11:41 PM

Don't have any problem with Clarke being charged for his comments. They merited punishment.

What other coaches are/aren't getting punished for is a separate issue. Gerrard's been quite careful with his criticisms so far. That quote on page one is a great example, where he talks about "the world" being against them. He doesn't call out the referee explicitly.

Ryan Jack on the other hand...

**SirDavidsNapper** · 13-09-2018 05:33 AM

This has been on the cards since Clarke said no to the Rangers job. How dare he. They are the people.

**HIBERNIAN-0762** · 13-09-2018 06:21 AM

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Not sure how it is none of our business if Sevco are being favoured over other clubs?

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This and the yams as well.

***Brightside*** · 13-09-2018 07:47 AM

Originally Posted by Ozyhibby

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I’m talking about the fact that Clarke has been charged for criticising the decision and Gerrard has not been charged when he claimed refs were biased.

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Was Ryan Jack done for saying the ref should be demoted?

***Moulin Yarns*** · 13-09-2018 08:14 AM

BBC Gossip

Scotland's referees are seeking urgent clarification from football's international law makers over what constitutes a straight red card ahead of the return of the top-flight this weekend, with a video package believed to include incidents involving Rangers pair Alfredo Morelos and Allan McGregor as well as Hearts striker Steven Naismith being sent. (Daily Record)

**Ozyhibby** · 13-09-2018 08:53 AM

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Was Ryan Jack done for saying the ref should be demoted?

No, he plays for new Rangers.

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**Delboy4** · 13-09-2018 09:21 AM

I’m sure Gerrard falls into this category...

They have accused Clarke of breaching Disciplinary Rule 72, which says no team official under SFA jurisdiction shall "in any manner likely to lead to publicity (i) criticise the decision(s) and/or performance(s) of any or all match official(s) in such a way as to indicate bias or incompetence on the part of such match official; or (ii) make remarks about such match official(s) which impinge on his character".

***Aldo*** · 13-09-2018 10:40 AM

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I’m sure Gerrard falls into this category...

They have accused Clarke of breaching Disciplinary Rule 72, which says no team official under SFA jurisdiction shall "in any manner likely to lead to publicity (i) criticise the decision(s) and/or performance(s) of any or all match official(s) in such a way as to indicate bias or incompetence on the part of such match official; or (ii) make remarks about such match official(s) which impinge on his character".

Ryan Jack definitely falls into this as I’m sure he said Collum should be demoted

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**~~Peevemor~~** · 13-09-2018 10:51 AM

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/45497797

Given what Steven Gerrard has been saying about refs this season, this is just another example of the SFA running Scottish football for the benefit of one club.
What bugs me is why Hibs are happy for this situation to continue?

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How do you know Hibs are happy?

**Saint Hibee** · 13-09-2018 10:55 AM

#Je suis Steve Clarke

***green day*** · 13-09-2018 11:14 AM

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How do you know Hibs are happy?

Indeed.

I doubt Hibs give two hoots about Steve Clarkes "predicament" given that he wasnt exactly honest about the award of that penalty at Rugby Park last year.

Lennon and his team will be focussed on beating Killie on Saturday - that Clarke has lost a key player is good for us.

I cant really understand the rationale that presupposes that if Hibs dont do Press Releases about everything the SFA does then this automatically means that Rod Petrie, and by extension Hibs, are in some way complicit and in agreement.

**Ozyhibby** · 13-09-2018 11:50 AM

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Indeed.

I doubt Hibs give two hoots about Steve Clarkes "predicament" given that he wasnt exactly honest about the award of that penalty at Rugby Park last year.

Lennon and his team will be focussed on beating Killie on Saturday - that Clarke has lost a key player is good for us.

I cant really understand the rationale that presupposes that if Hibs dont do Press Releases about everything the SFA does then this automatically means that Rod Petrie, and by extension Hibs, are in some way complicit and in agreement.

Doesn’t matter if it’s Steve Clarke, Craig Levien, Neil McCann or Neil Lennon. What matters is that one club is being treated differently from all the others. That’s why we should care. Given how long it’s gone on and the silence from Easter road I can only assume Hibs are happy with it.

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***CentreLine*** · 13-09-2018 12:00 PM

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Doesn’t matter if it’s Steve Clarke, Craig Levien, Neil McCann or Neil Lennon. What matters is that one club is being treated differently from all the others. That’s why we should care. Given how long it’s gone on and the silence from Easter road I can only assume Hibs are happy with it.

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There is a danger of being seen as having an agenda when people jump at every opportunity to have a go at Hibs and particularly RP. Maybe it’s time to give it a rest for a bit then it will have much more impact if or when it’s justified.
There is absolutely no justification for accusing Hibs of having an opinion either way on the standard of refereeing and the people (no pun intended) that run Scottish football. In this instance it would be just a s legitimate to suggest that Hibs approach the authorities, whether SFA or SPFL, through the correct channels to protest at the standards of administration at all levels. After all that would be the dignified manner in which I would expect our club to do business.

***green day*** · 13-09-2018 12:00 PM

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Doesn’t matter if it’s Steve Clarke, Craig Levien, Neil McCann or Neil Lennon. What matters is that one club is being treated differently from all the others. That’s why we should care. Given how long it’s gone on and the silence from Easter road I can only assume Hibs are happy with it.

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You cant be serious?

Does Hibs lack of comment on the sectarian problem at Rangers and Celtic means that they are happy with it?

Hibs not commenting on the child abuse from youth coaches X years ago means they are happy with it?

You dont want Petrie at the helm of Hibs or the SFA - that I get, but you simply cant go about making assumptions about Hibs stance on the disciplinary process on the basis that they dont issue press releases about everything that bothers you.

**hibeemikey21** · 13-09-2018 12:32 PM

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When he goes to the hearing he should only speak using quotes from gerrard, that way he'll be fine.

That’s genuinely a fantastic idea! Clarke/another manager should recite Gerrard’s interview word for word next time they’re aggrieved by a ref. See what the outcome is......

***lord bunberry*** · 13-09-2018 12:35 PM

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That’s genuinely a fantastic idea! Clarke/another manager should recite Gerrard’s interview word for word next time they’re aggrieved by a ref. See what the outcome is......

Every manager should do that. In fact I hope they do.

**MWHIBBIES** · 13-09-2018 01:21 PM

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Doesn’t matter if it’s Steve Clarke, Craig Levien, Neil McCann or Neil Lennon. What matters is that one club is being treated differently from all the others. That’s why we should care. Given how long it’s gone on and the silence from Easter road I can only assume Hibs are happy with it.

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Impeccable logic that is.

***blackpoolhibs*** · 13-09-2018 01:31 PM

Tom Hart would have told them exactly what he was thinking, instead of hiding behind the curtains frightened to speak up against what is clear favouritism, the one rule for them and one for the rest is never clearer.

**Scotty Leither** · 13-09-2018 01:47 PM

The only statement that Hibs made about the old Rangers was the recent one telling everybody to move on and forget about how they did everybody else in the League out of European competition and attendant prize money for league placing through their creative accounting.

The Board weren't asked to justify that statement for being seen to kow-tow to Sevco and instead the fans' reps got it in the neck.

**Ozyhibby** · 13-09-2018 02:34 PM

If something is wrong it’s good to speak out.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/45510168

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***GreenLake*** · 13-09-2018 03:26 PM

This could be solved easily by offshoring these type of investigations and putting the decisions in the hands of neutral professionals from other countries. If only we could bring refs in from other countries too as the crap decision making would at least be randomly distributed. Ultimately we have to dream forward to the day when some kind of AI robot is in charge.

**BegbieHSC** · 13-09-2018 03:43 PM

Will he be in the dugout on Saturday?

***Billy Whizz*** · 13-09-2018 04:01 PM

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Will he be in the dugout on Saturday?

Yes, disciplinary meeting isn’t until October

**Ozyhibby** · 13-09-2018 05:07 PM

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Yes, disciplinary meeting isn’t until October

6 days before they play Sevco.

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**BegbieHSC** · 13-09-2018 05:21 PM

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6 days before they play Sevco.

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Lol. What a ****ing shambles the SFA are.m!

***Kojock*** · 13-09-2018 06:26 PM

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Tom Hart would have told them exactly what he was thinking, instead of hiding behind the curtains frightened to speak up against what is clear favouritism, the one rule for them and one for the rest is never clearer.

Leeann Dempster was a season ticket holder at Ibrox, maybe she still has a soft spot for Der Hun. Just saying likes.

***Keith_M*** · 13-09-2018 07:36 PM

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Leeann Dempster was a season ticket holder at Ibrox, maybe she still has a soft spot for Der Hun. Just saying likes.

I'm sure she does.

In fact, given how widespread the problem is amongst the The Rangers support (and was among their predecessors), I wouldn't be in the least bit surprised if she'd joined in with their sectarian ditties at some point.

However, it doesn't seem to affect how she does her job for us, so I'm willing to overlook it.

***Jack Hackett*** · 13-09-2018 07:39 PM

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I'm sure she does.

In fact, given how widespread the problem is amongst the The Rangers support (and was among their predecessors), I wouldn't be in the least bit surprised if she'd joined in with their sectarian ditties at some point.

However, it doesn't seem to affect how she does her job for us, so I'm willing to overlook it.

Your tolerance does you credit