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    Quote Originally Posted by superhibi1 View Post
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    So are you saying he shouldnt have re signed them?
    Fontaine and Gray yes. Stevenson, Hanlon and Oxley no.

    We will see over the course of the season if Stubbs was right but the signs don't look good after today I would say.


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    Quote Originally Posted by superhibi1 View Post
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    So are you saying he shouldnt have re signed them?

    Maybe we needed better or even stronger competition for places, no one is pushing Stevenson, Oxley is poor, and Hanlon is as bad as ever, plus Forster seems now very injury prone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forza Fred View Post
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    Nor even more sadly does the mentality of our players.

    I don't know where we go from here.....any hope of 'doing a Hearts' surely is lying wrecked on the side of the highway now.
    People seriously thought we might 'do a Hearts'?

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    Remember when loads of folk were saying rangers are ***** and have no money? That was hilarious

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    First time we've conceded 6 at home in a domestic game since 1960. Says it all.
    Christ ahve just lost an argument then I didnae think we ever had 5 yes 6 no. ah well onward and upward still think we will win the league.

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    Paul Hanlon Lewis Stevenson with these two constants in our team this will happen. Hanlon had interest in him when he was younger but last few years nothing and has any other team ever shown interest in Stevenson what does this tell you . They are at Hibs because every other team have better


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim44 View Post
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    Well, the replay stopped at Gray body checking the defender implying a foul.
    Well, he strayed into an offside position, and he reacted to the linesman as he turned away to celebrate, so he was definitely flagged offside, like it makes a difference.
    There is no such thing as too much yarn, just not enough time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gatecrasher View Post
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    Remember when loads of folk were saying rangers are ***** and have no money? That was hilarious
    Anyone contradicting that view at the end of last season was pilloried for it.

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    That was shambolic. Same players making the same mistakes. Our injured players would have given us more options up top but wouldn't have helped at the back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J-C View Post
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    Maybe we needed better or even stronger competition for places, no one is pushing Stevenson, Oxley is poor, and Hanlon is as bad as ever, plus Forster seems now very injury prone.
    I agree we need another LB, oxley was poor today but wasnt anywhere near this poor last season so hopefully just a one off

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    Quote Originally Posted by adhibs View Post
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    embarrassing. has to be some serious positive activity in the transfer market this week. the fitness is shocking as well compared to them
    'Triple sessions just encourage slow football', maybe that Dutch geezer was right...

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    Quote Originally Posted by One Day Soon View Post
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    Anyone contradicting that view at the end of last season was pilloried for it.
    That opinion has been posted regularly throughout the summer not just last season

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    Quote Originally Posted by number9dream View Post
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    'Triple sessions just encourage slow football', maybe that Dutch geezer was right...

    Hibs looked like it was the end of a hard campaign, pre season friendlies for match fitness against smaller teams, less injuries and a confident squad.

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    That was a shambles, but some good signs first half, we have most of our new signings to come in and still time to strengthen the team, dont panic just yet!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gatecrasher View Post
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    That opinion has been posted regularly throughout the summer not just last season
    And so it should have been.

    Last season we were told that the aim was to win the league while the club's activities showed that the best they were planning for was the play offs.

    I haven't heard the script for this season. Have they said they expect/are aiming to win the league yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by steviehibsleith View Post
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    Paul Hanlon Lewis Stevenson with these two constants in our team this will happen. Hanlon had interest in him when he was younger but last few years nothing and has any other team ever shown interest in Stevenson what does this tell you . They are at Hibs because every other team have better


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    This was pretty much the best defence in the league last term. Not panicking yet.

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    I feared the worst when Allan was left out but my worst fears have been well and truly surpassed!
    Atrocious all across the park. Defence shambolic, midfield faded badly after bright start. Fyvie anonymous.
    I hope Bartley brings a bit of dig and physicality to the middle of the park.
    Cummings maybe the only one to get pass marks? Even the normally dependable Gray went off the boil.

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    Maybe those of us who were branded drama queens when suggesting we were ill prepared for the season ahead weren't just looking for an excuse to be negative after all.

    Huge wake up call with how far behind we are in our prep today and we're probably 6 weeks away from having a 1st choice squad up to speed. The similarities to last year are there to see.
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    Stubbs wants to forget 3-5-2 and the 4-4-2 diamond, play 4-3-3 which can easily turn into a 4-5-1 when defending.

    Oh and we need shot of Malonga, looked uninterested and couldn't wait to get off, his shot mid half from the pen spot was a joke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steviehibsleith View Post
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    Paul Hanlon Lewis Stevenson with these two constants in our team this will happen. Hanlon had interest in him when he was younger but last few years nothing and has any other team ever shown interest in Stevenson what does this tell you . They are at Hibs because every other team have better


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    10 minutes of madness before half time cost us the game - that and poor poor finishing.

    Cummings should have buried the header. Fontaine should have scored. Malonga should have scored. Stanton should have scored hitting it with his right. First half The Rangers were not in it.

    Hanlon makes a totally unnecessary tackle as he so prone to do - set piece - goal.

    Oxley gets the ball, no pressure......decides to float a ball to Stevenson, who if loses it, there is no Hibs man to pick up loose ball. Rest is a culmination of Hanlon and Forster making a shambles of marking.

    Third goal - deary me, basic - Oxley at fault.

    Fourth, fifth and sixth, all from left side, Hibs no shape, Stanton and Stevenson switching off, not closing down.

    I can take a defeat but that second half performance was simply shocking. To allow Halliday the freedom of Leith for the killer 4th was basic basic defending from a wide area.

    However - trying to get a positive from this - that was a weakened Hibs side and a full strength, as it stands, The Rangers side.

    We have to prevent crosses - it's such a basic thing in football, either cutting them out or anticipating and attacking them. Hibs were standofffish and sluggish.

    We need to get Boyle and company match fit, quick - I'm now hugely concerned at the knocks and injuries Hibs players are picking up. To have so many get injured there has to be a reason, not just bad luck.

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    lets see how we are with a full strength team im still confident we will win the league

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    Maybe those of us who were branded drama queens when suggesting we were ill prepared for the season ahead weren't just looking for an excuse to be negative after all.

    Huge wake up call with how far behind we are in our prep today and we're probably 6 weeks away from having a 1st choice squad up to speed. The similarities to last year are there to see.
    Yep. We are miles away. This whole Allan stuff hasn't helped and need resolved now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pretty Boy View Post
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    Maybe those of us who were branded drama queens when suggesting we were ill prepared for the season ahead weren't just looking for an excuse to be negative after all.

    Huge wake up call with how far behind we are in our prep today and we're probably 6 weeks away from having a 1st choice squad up to speed. The similarities to last year are there to see.
    That's where I was at during the Rangers/Motherwell play off last season PB. Nothing has changed except that Rangers have strengthened and improved. Our best player is now unsettled and if he is either missing or not firing on all cylinders we are then half the team we would otherwise be. We are clearly not ready for the league start and that's only two weeks away.

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    Anyone contradicting that view at the end of last season was pilloried for it.
    But hun are *****, and they don't have any money. Hibs were just benevolent enough to make them look like Real Madrid today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zitelli62 View Post
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    lets see how we are with a full strength team im still confident we will win the league
    There is absolutely no chance of that whatsoever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacomoseven View Post
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    This was pretty much the best defence in the league last term. Not panicking yet.
    Gray and Lewis should be left to be defenders, it's what they're decent at, the wingback scenario get's them out of position and exposes the 2 ch's, when Forster went off we didn't have a DM and it showed, they opened us up at will, we need to have a flat back 4 if we play without a DM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by One Day Soon View Post
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    People seriously thought we might 'do a Hearts'?
    Yep. I did.

    We weren't far off last year and we've added to the squad. We've lost our way recruitment-wise in recent weeks but I thought we were on the right track. Remember that "doing a Hearts" is consistently beating the lesser teams in the league. I thought we had more than enough in our squad to be able to do that.

    As it happens all of the additions to the squad are injured and our main man from last year has had his head turned.


    We've been knocked out a diddy cup and we've learned that we can't expect to beat The Rangers if we play the way we play today. We've also got a long time until the transfer window closes so if we need to bring players in at least we have time (if not a great deal of money) to do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by magpie1892 View Post
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    But hun are *****, and they don't have any money. Hibs were just benevolent enough to make them look like Real Madrid today.
    Good to hear from you bud. I expect the Bravehearters will probably still be pushing this line all the way to the play offs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SunnyLeith;4421482[B
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    ]It's the defence that's been the problem today[/B] and that's the one area of the team where it was all first team players.

    Was really just the defence Sunny ? Yes they were terrible, a lot of unforced stupid schoolboy errors [ie Fontaine has bell left side of penalty area, no rangers man within 10 yards of him, he makes a dogs ear of his kick and passes it straight to rangers player who promptly says thanks mate, puts the ball back across goal and they score]. I would suggest that our midfield was also non-existent today, over-ran in fact, thus putting more pressure on our defence and creating nothing in an attacking sense. Apart from the first 35 min we were nothing short of abysmal all over the park.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steviehibsleith View Post
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    Paul Hanlon Lewis Stevenson with these two constants in our team this will happen. Hanlon had interest in him when he was younger but last few years nothing and has any other team ever shown interest in Stevenson what does this tell you . They are at Hibs because every other team have better


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