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    Gangster Films

    I've just finished rewatching The Godfather trilogy - 1 and 2 are EASILY up there with the best films ever made in my opinion.

    There's something about this genre of film that breeds exceptional movies - from White Heat to Army in the Shadows, from The Untouchables, The Departed, Goodfellas, Casino, Once Upon A Time in America, Un Prophete, Miller's Crossing, Reservoir Dogs, Scarface...the list is endless!

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    Absolutely right, its unbelievable how many great films come from the mafia genre. I'm a big Cagney fan, and I think it all comes from him. Modern mafia films are also massively influenced by fifties American noir films like Double Indemnity. The Sopranos and Boardwalk Empire deserve a mention as boxsets. Gomorrah is a different take on the genre. And never really gets a mention but Carlitos Way is right up there with the best of them too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hibsbollah View Post
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    Absolutely right, its unbelievable how many great films come from the mafia genre. I'm a big Cagney fan, and I think it all comes from him. Modern mafia films are also massively influenced by fifties American noir films like Double Indemnity. The Sopranos and Boardwalk Empire deserve a mention as boxsets. Gomorrah is a different take on the genre. And never really gets a mention but Carlitos Way is right up there with the best of them too.
    Glad you mentioned Gomorra, both the film and the series are excellent and I normally prefer the foreign language ones, City of God, Mesrine, la Haine, Cell 211 a Spanish movie possibly has my favourite bad guy of all time in it and my favourite UK set one is Eastern Promises although that can be quite a hard watch

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    The Long Good Friday is up there as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mon Dieu4 View Post
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    Glad you mentioned Gomorra, both the film and the series are excellent and I normally prefer the foreign language ones, City of God, Mesrine, la Haine, Cell 211 a Spanish movie possibly has my favourite bad guy of all time in it and my favourite UK set one is Eastern Promises although that can be quite a hard watch
    City of God is fantastic

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    Might be on my own here but I really enjoyed Killing them softly with Brad Pitt. Also Animal Kingdom is one of my favourite films of all time....

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    Not a film but Sopranos must get a mention

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    Romanzo Criminale, the film rather than series, also a stand-out for me
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    Love my gangster films, but only really watched recent ones. I've seen The Godfather trilogy and loved it but stil need to watch the likes of Casino, Scarface etc. In recent years the likes of American Gangster, The Departed, Road to Perdition are brilliant films along with The Sopranos.

    Like my gangster documentries too. Really looking forward to watching this new one by Trevor McDonald.

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    I only just watched Scarface for the first time and absolutely loved it.

    Watched Gangster Squad on Sky and really liked that too. Still never attempted watching The Godfather

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    Most of my favourite gangster films have been mentioned, but the French film The Prophet is also well worth checking out.

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    I like ganster films, and all.my favourites have been mentioned.

    However I would add true romance, although not a gangster film per se, it does does feature the mob and is one of my favourite films of all time.

    Also,.for American 'black' gangster filmi.woud say to anyone watch boys in the hood and menace to society. Both bpoody great films.

    I also enjoyed gangster number 1 with paul bettany, not sure if it was a critically successful movie but I enjoyed it, ans its very brutal and graphic.

    And of course, the krays is always a classic

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    Love my gangster films, but only really watched recent ones. I've seen The Godfather trilogy and loved it but stil need to watch the likes of Casino, Scarface etc. In recent years the likes of American Gangster, The Departed, Road to Perdition are brilliant films along with The Sopranos.

    Like my gangster documentries too. Really looking forward to watching this new one by Trevor McDonald.
    You better get watching then

    Goodfellas ranks as one of my favourite films of all time. Thought Godfather part 2 was even better than the first (will admit to still not seeing the third!).

    Also a big fan of (and can't see mentioned already):

    Donnie Brascoe
    Brooklyn Rules
    Carlitos Way (not as big a fan but will mention anyway)

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    Love loads of the films already mentioned . Not a fan of No 1 though, thought it sucked big time. Added to the list has to be Public Enemies, Lawless and King of New York.
    On a slight slant on the genre, I loved the Boondock Saints, Suicide Kings and Harlem Nights. All funny as duck in their on way .

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    Quote Originally Posted by hibsbollah View Post
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    Absolutely right, its unbelievable how many great films come from the mafia genre. I'm a big Cagney fan, and I think it all comes from him. Modern mafia films are also massively influenced by fifties American noir films like Double Indemnity. The Sopranos and Boardwalk Empire deserve a mention as boxsets. Gomorrah is a different take on the genre. And never really gets a mention but Carlitos Way is right up there with the best of them too.
    I think George Raft, Paul Muni, and Edward G. surpassed any of Cagney's hammed up performances. The man should never have been allowed in front of a camera again after that last scene in Angels With Dirty Faces: was Rocky really scared, was he doing it because Pat O'Brien asked him, or was it that Cagney just couldn't act?

    Anybody wanting to see a good modern gangster film might like to check out "The Wee Man". Some great scenes in that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil D. Rolls View Post
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    I think George Raft, Paul Muni, and Edward G. surpassed any of Cagney's hammed up performances. The man should never have been allowed in front of a camera again after that last scene in Angels With Dirty Faces: was Rocky really scared, was he doing it because Pat O'Brien asked him, or was it that Cagney just couldn't act?

    Anybody wanting to see a good modern gangster film might like to check out "The Wee Man". Some great scenes in that.
    Is that the one where he is asked to show fear on his way to his death ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sleeping giant View Post
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    Is that the one where he is asked to show fear on his way to his death ?
    Yep - he gets the chair at the end, and freaks out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil D. Rolls View Post
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    I think George Raft, Paul Muni, and Edward G. surpassed any of Cagney's hammed up performances. The man should never have been allowed in front of a camera again after that last scene in Angels With Dirty Faces: was Rocky really scared, was he doing it because Pat O'Brien asked him, or was it that Cagney just couldn't act?

    Anybody wanting to see a good modern gangster film might like to check out "The Wee Man". Some great scenes in that.
    Watched The Wee Man last week, thoroughly enjoyed it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil D. Rolls View Post
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    Yep - he gets the chair at the end, and freaks out.
    It was a very long time ago when I watched it but I'm sure the warden asked him to do it to so he wouldn't become an inspiration for the younger prisoners.

    Can't remember anything about his acting though .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scouse Hibee View Post
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    Watched The Wee Man last week, thoroughly enjoyed it.
    Decent film
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    Decent film
    Its on netflix for anyone who's got it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scouse Hibee View Post
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    Watched The Wee Man last week, thoroughly enjoyed it.
    At first I was caught up in seeing it as a Glasgow story. By the end of the film I saw it as being in the same league as The Long Good Friday. I thought Compston was excellent, as always.

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    It was a very long time ago when I watched it but I'm sure the warden asked him to do it to so he wouldn't become an inspiration for the younger prisoners.

    Can't remember anything about his acting though .
    Something like that.

    His boyhood friend was played by Pat O'Brien. They'd both been delinquents, Cagney went one road, O'Brien went into the priesthood.

    He was running a mission to prevent other kids from the area from making a career in crime. Cagney's character returned to the area and all the kids looked up to him and wanted to be him.

    Pat O'Brien asks him to act the coward so that they will see him as a traitor. Cagney refuses, but at the end he freaks out. The question was always, was Rocky a coward, or did he do it for the kids.

    Cagney desperately overacts in the last scene and is taking crying and screaming to the chair.

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    Cagney desperately overacts in the last scene and is taking crying and screaming to the chair.
    But was it Cagney or Rocky that was overacting?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil D. Rolls View Post
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    At first I was caught up in seeing it as a Glasgow story. By the end of the film I saw it as being in the same league as The Long Good Friday. I thought Compston was excellent, as always.



    Something like that.

    His boyhood friend was played by Pat O'Brien. They'd both been delinquents, Cagney went one road, O'Brien went into the priesthood.

    He was running a mission to prevent other kids from the area from making a career in crime. Cagney's character returned to the area and all the kids looked up to him and wanted to be him.

    Pat O'Brien asks him to act the coward so that they will see him as a traitor. Cagney refuses, but at the end he freaks out. The question was always, was Rocky a coward, or did he do it for the kids.

    Cagney desperately overacts in the last scene and is taking crying and screaming to the chair.
    I love that scene. You're talking out of your hat, you low down, double crossing rat
    pat O'brien 'let's say a prayer for a boy who couldn't run as fast as I could'
    what an ending.

    i agree about Edward G Robinson. He had everything, and what a face for a bad guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caversham Green View Post
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    But was it Cagney or Rocky that was overacting?

    Youve got it. That's the whole point. It was Rocky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caversham Green View Post
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    But was it Cagney or Rocky that was overacting?
    It is a thought that crossed my mind - I prefer to think it was Cagney overacting, as he did that quite a lot.

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    Youve got it. That's the whole point. It was Rocky.
    Cagney never said. I read his autobiography, and he said that little kids used to come up to him and say "tell me ya did it for dah faddah Rocky".

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    Once upon a time... and Casino are my favourites.
    Like loads of the 90s Brit ones Layer Cake etc

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    A lot of great films mentioned but for me it would be Bonnie and Clyde.
    Another would be Bugsy .

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    Quote Originally Posted by wpj View Post
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    Not a film but Sopranos must get a mention
    I didn't see the series and have only recently watched some clips on You Tube. Is it worth getting the box set?


    I watched Little Caesar on You Tube the other night - 1931, Edward G Robinson. Very time by modern standards but some fine acting.
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    Anyone seen the trailer for Black Mass yet?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CE3e3hGF2jc

    It looks absolutely sensational. Homage to Goodfellas is particularly evident but Depp's performance gave me chills in that brief clip!
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