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    Pyramid system farce

    https://www.scottishfa.co.uk/news/scottish-fa-statement-pyramid-play-off-tie/?rid=13929&fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR0HhvWMkS4CXc YdjHq0f0GSq0hOV20LDCY0FXcEHO7doTz5xI2Bzf7_pJk_aem_ AZWYE74NYOYXW_iwDeKhGaWmuIGZrRCRgnvFVvX_CGqJtTpBQH YrPrBJPoFfp5uMUwwzsQl8MI151v44V2VxDQ2W

    What could they possibly be missing to compete in league 2? Sfa basically choosing who they want and who they don't.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Helensburghhibs View Post
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    https://www.scottishfa.co.uk/news/scottish-fa-statement-pyramid-play-off-tie/?rid=13929&fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR0HhvWMkS4CXc YdjHq0f0GSq0hOV20LDCY0FXcEHO7doTz5xI2Bzf7_pJk_aem_ AZWYE74NYOYXW_iwDeKhGaWmuIGZrRCRgnvFVvX_CGqJtTpBQH YrPrBJPoFfp5uMUwwzsQl8MI151v44V2VxDQ2W

    What could they possibly be missing to compete in league 2? Sfa basically choosing who they want and who they don't.
    It could be as simple as not supplying the SFA with audited accounts on time.

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    Regardless. It's double standards.

    "five clubs already in the SPFL – Airdrieonians, Cove Rangers, Edinburgh City, Kelty Hearts and Peterhead – don’t yet have a bronze licence."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helensburghhibs View Post
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    Regardless. It's double standards.

    "five clubs already in the SPFL – Airdrieonians, Cove Rangers, Edinburgh City, Kelty Hearts and Peterhead – don’t yet have a bronze licence."
    From the SFA's statement:-

    Every club was made aware in summer last year of the need to have a Scottish FA Bronze Licence to participate in the SPFL. Regrettably, Buckie Thistle failed to respond to any of the three subsequent follow-up letters sent in October, February and March.

    “They are not compliant with SPFL Rules and failed to apply for a period of grace by the 31 March 2024 deadline. The SPFL Board has huge sympathy for Buckie and their fans, but has no option but to enforce our Rules.”


    Ignoring the SFA would seem to be the issue.

    Presumably, the other clubs applied for the "period of grace" to comply. Bear in mind that the new rules were only introduced in the summer, which might have been quite difficult for those clubs.

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    Wouldn’t surprise me if Buckie haven’t replied because they want to stay in the highland league.

    Would be a massive expense to jump up to the second division for Buckie.

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    Wouldn’t surprise me if Buckie haven’t replied because they want to stay in the highland league.

    Would be a massive expense to jump up to the second division for Buckie.
    Yeah makes sense

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unseen work View Post
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    Wouldn’t surprise me if Buckie haven’t replied because they want to stay in the highland league.

    Would be a massive expense to jump up to the second division for Buckie.
    Yep I don't think going up is all that great a prize
    For HFL teams iam sure Brora effectively threw a play off undefeated for about 40odd games before it...

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    Wouldn’t surprise me if Buckie haven’t replied because they want to stay in the highland league.

    Would be a massive expense to jump up to the second division for Buckie.
    https://twitter.com/BuckieThistle/status/1783578813508595923?s=19

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    https://twitter.com/BuckieThistle/status/1783578813508595923?s=19
    Should've known better than to give the blazers the benefit of the doubt 😂

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenNWhiteArmy View Post
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    https://twitter.com/BuckieThistle/status/1783578813508595923?s=19
    This sounds like a total farce if what the club are stating is true. Will be interesting to see the response. Sounds like a major cock-up.

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    Someone's telling porkies here, and I suspect it's not all on the SPFL/SFA.

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    SPFL is becoming the home of statements. All getting a bit farcical this now trying to get one up on someone else. What happened to sorting these things out in private and moving on? This stuff just makes the game look pathetic

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    Got to laugh. I tried to read up on what the Bronze criteria is, but the SFA website page searches take you to isn't working! Can anyone help?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glory Lurker View Post
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    Got to laugh. I tried to read up on what the Bronze criteria is, but the SFA website page searches take you to isn't working! Can anyone help?
    https://www.scottishfa.co.uk/scottis...lub-licensing/

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    Buckie Thistle released contents of a decision notice saying that decisions on the areas that needed improvement had been deferred to the 15th of May, and are now looking at taking the decision to remove them from the playoffs to arbitration.

    West Coast Football Association strikes again.
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    Someone's telling porkies here, and I suspect it's not all on the SPFL/SFA.

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    Surely there will be minutes for the meeting with the SFA that Buckie speak about in their statement which clearly shows that a derogation for certain licensing criteria was agreed at the meeting.
    I suspect it was not agreed and the Buckie representative has misunderstood, hearing what he wanted to hear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Northernhibee View Post
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    Buckie Thistle released contents of a decision notice saying that decisions on the areas that needed improvement had been deferred to the 15th of May, and are now looking at taking the decision to remove them from the playoffs to arbitration.

    West Coast Football Association strikes again.
    By that time, the play-offs would be over. Had Buckie won their way through to the SPFL, what would then happen if they can't fulfil the licence conditions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod View Post
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    By that time, the play-offs would be over. Had Buckie won their way through to the SPFL, what would then happen if they can't fulfil the licence conditions?
    For me then that would be the time to disqualify them from the process, and the team in 10th in league two should keep their place.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Northernhibee View Post
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    For me then that would be the time to disqualify them from the process, and the team in 10th in league two should keep their place.
    Without a playoff with East Kilbride!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy Whizz View Post
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    Without a playoff with East Kilbride!
    Assuming Buckie Thistle were to win the playoffs or beat EK, that is.


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    For me then that would be the time to disqualify them from the process, and the team in 10th in league two should keep their place.
    11th place I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ancient hibee View Post
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    11th place I think.
    12th, no?

    It's "Club 42".

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    Quote Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod View Post
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    12th, no?

    It's "Club 42".
    Club 42 is 10th in Division 2 as there's 12 clubs 1n the top division and 10 in the other three.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eyrie View Post
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    Club 42 is 10th in Division 2 as there's 12 clubs 1n the top division and 10 in the other three.
    Yeah, you're right

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    Should be automatic bottom two down in every division. At the bottom, replace with winners of Highland League and Lowland League. Add a play off for bottom third versus top third below for extra excitement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glory Lurker View Post
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    Should be automatic bottom two down in every division. At the bottom, replace with winners of Highland League and Lowland League. Add a play off for bottom third versus top third below for extra excitement.
    Thats where it all gets a bit complicated if you have, say, two ex-HL teams finishing bottom two. It already exists in England with their pyramid system.

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    The things for me regarding this license thing is a farce, Kelty hearts,edinburgh city, cove, Peterhead and also Airdrie have the exact same status as Buckie regarding eufa license thing.. all are lowest level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dazzjw1875 View Post
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    The things for me regarding this license thing is a farce, Kelty hearts,edinburgh city, cove, Peterhead and also Airdrie have the exact same status as Buckie regarding eufa license thing.. all are lowest level.
    Interesting

    The SFA last updated their club licence list last month (January) It shows five clubs already in the SPFL – Airdrieonians, Cove Rangers, Edinburgh City, Kelty Hearts and Peterhead – don’t yet have a bronze licence

    It is understood these clubs are working to attain the required licence, but there is uncertainty about what could happen if they don’t achieve it in time for next term

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    I dunno, I kinda feel as if though Buckie have ****ed themselves rather than any SFA bias. Didn't they qualify for the playoffs in previous seasons no problem?

    That said, we have far too many WoS teams in the SPFL so hope they win their appeal and relegate Clyde.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dazzjw1875 View Post
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    The things for me regarding this license thing is a farce, Kelty hearts,edinburgh city, cove, Peterhead and also Airdrie have the exact same status as Buckie regarding eufa license thing.. all are lowest level.
    They were all told of the new requirements at the beginning of the season, which is a tight deadline. Presumably, those clubs have asked for extensions, which is why they are still there.

    The official line is that Buckie didn't ask for one.

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