Was wondering about what this 'review' of Hibs will be looking at and started to think about the culture at Hibs.
Heard Naismith talking there about having a belief in coming back when they are behind, hate to say it, but you can see that. Do you see that with Hibs? No chance, you can't even see a belief in us holding a lead! You could say its this team and this manager, but its been like that through multiple teams and multiple managers. So what's the consistent at the club? Only thing I can think of is culture.
So what culture do we have at Hibs and, given it always comes form the top, who do you think it is (or isn't) leading it at the club?
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21-04-2024 03:01 PM #1
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The culture at Hibs
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21-04-2024 03:05 PM #2This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
They have never beaten Rangers at Hampden.
Not sure I want to emulate that.
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21-04-2024 03:23 PM #3
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21-04-2024 03:24 PM #4
I think over the years we have created a culture of "typical Hibs" to every set back. I have heard it over and over again. From within the club a narrative has to be established like the "There's class, there's first class and then there is Hibs class" or a "no surrender" or "you'll never beat the Irish". Whatever it is, we do need to get away from the "typical Hibs", "Hibsed it" type of thinking we do have.
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21-04-2024 03:45 PM #5
Hibs come back from behind plenty. A myth that doesn't stand up to any analysis.
Naismith is a slavering tit.
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21-04-2024 03:50 PM #6This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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21-04-2024 04:34 PM #7
Everything we do needs to make the first team better. That’s the nature of Scottish football.
Hospitality suites, vanity projects like Melkersen, and the like are nice to have but the first team is everything and we need to make it as good as possible.
Do you think your security can keep you in purity, you will not shake us off above or below. Scottish friction, Scottish fiction
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21-04-2024 04:41 PM #8This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
This season we have taken just 5 points from 51 in the league when we have gone behind (5 Draws, 0 Wins) plus a win in the cup against St Mirren. This is similar to recent seasons back to and including the season we finished 3rd under JR.
In 2017/18 we took 22 points from a possible 51 in the league in which we went behind plus a cup win against Livi.
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21-04-2024 04:41 PM #9
Too many players on longish contracts and biggish wages who are on easy street and know they won't get dropped because we have no depth in squad to make them play better. Half our squad was sent out on loan, Henderson, Harbottle, Kenneh, Delferriere and then we have players like Jair who should be nowhere near this team. The whole thing's a shambles and a reset button needs pressed.
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21-04-2024 04:43 PM #10
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21-04-2024 05:32 PM #11This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Really need to pack in the drink
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21-04-2024 05:59 PM #12
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We've done it plenty and we'll do it again. Holding leads is the first priority for sure.
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21-04-2024 06:14 PM #13This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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We've come from 2 goals down at Kilmarnock and Hearts this season. Came from behind to draw at Aberdeen. Came from behind to beat St Mirren in cup I think. Came from 2-0 down to equalise (then lose 😂) against st Mirren. Came from behind in Switzerland.
It's not a culture issue imo. We're just crap. I don't have zero confidence in us if we go behind. We scored plenty goals this season.
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21-04-2024 07:23 PM #15This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I also don’t agree with your assertion that it’s purely down to much poorer players, when we finished 3rd in 20/21 we only took 7 points from a possible 48 when going behind. There was many fans who had zero confidence in us coming back when we went behind in the cup final. Fortunately back then when we took the lead we were very good at seeing it out.
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21-04-2024 08:45 PM #16
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There’s been an acceptance that once we build the stadium and then once we get a new training centre, we’ll make the club so much more attractive for players coming to our club.
We’ve now just been given a cheque for six million quid and guess what? Most of that is going into bricks and mortar.
The product on the park has played second fiddle for so long.
That’s kinda what the culture has become at Hibs.
The stands have empty seats all over the place, supporters are finding other things to on a Saturday.
The people who run the business have lost all concept of what this club is really all about.
That’s putting a good entertaining football side on the park capable of at least punching its weight in spending terms. That hasn’t been the case recently.
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21-04-2024 09:56 PM #18
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The evidence for this is the product on the field.
We are bottom six for a reason.
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21-04-2024 11:56 PM #19
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22-04-2024 12:00 AM #20
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I don’t think it’s rocket science.
Usually, but granted, not always, in a football match, the team with the better players wins.
Conclusion…..we need better players?
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22-04-2024 03:39 AM #21
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Better players?
What does that mean?
It's not about better players, it's about a better team.
And what makes good teams - strong cultures.
You can have a team of the best talent in the world...in any industry...but if you don't set them up to succeed, they won't.
I prob set a few nerves off with my Naismith reference, it wasn't about him or hearts or us v them at all, **** them, it's about the fact that you cannot simply say our years and years of underperforming are down to one team, or one Manager, or the wrong formation...maybe in the immediate but it's been like this for ages
My fear is that since Ron passing, we're looking a little light on leadership as it's been handed to people that can't do it/don't want it
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22-04-2024 03:52 AM #22
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Really?
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22-04-2024 06:34 AM #23
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22-04-2024 08:03 AM #27
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We have a culture of second best is good enough. The amount of games we lose when should be winning bears that out.
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22-04-2024 09:30 AM #28
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You mentioned Hearts, and while I hate using them to support any discussions, while their recent 3 pre contract signings most definitely come from Scotland, consider this…
Hearts starting 11 in the cup semi final on Sunday against Rangers contained 8 players who had not previously played in the SPFL Premier Division before joining them.
One of them…Kingsley had played in the Scottish Championship with Falkirk but not in our league..but even if we count him in that’s still 7 then who had no Scottish experience.
I haven’t been through the Rangers side, nor Celtic, from this weekend but would be surprised if Scots were anywhere near a majority
My thinking may be simplistic…….that it matters not where a player comes from as long as he is properly identified as being ‘good enough’ to play in this league……not considered ‘not good enough just because he might come from a ‘foreign’ league
Also, it’s rare now to see Rangers or Celtic signing many players from within Scotland, suggesting that they too are not concerned that a lack of Scottish experience somehow is a handicap.
What we need to do is sign better players than we have now……where they come from doesn’t really matter to me, as long as we sign the right ones.
I am the first to admit that our recruitment has been pretty ordinary in recent years, and that is where the issue lies……in actually identifying good players…….wherever they currently play.Last edited by Forza Fred; 22-04-2024 at 09:35 AM.
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22-04-2024 09:47 AM #29
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