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    Quote Originally Posted by J-C View Post
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    The Gordon's for all their input and good intensions really lacked the footballing knowledge, Kensall is there to bring in extra business but not a real football man, we needed proper guidance football wise and the BK group will do that, the last 3 managers have been a disaster and dragged us backwards.


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    Quote Originally Posted by J-C View Post
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    Unfortunately Ron allowed his son too much power re scouting etc and I think he looked at FM too much thinking all he had to do was bring in some young talent, develop them and sell for millions, that usually only happens in a football simulation game, getting McDermott was the 1st decent thing they did.
    I'd say that was incompetant, naive and plain stupid too.

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    https://x.com/hibernianfc/status/178...bl8ISs-zf5CmHg

    Has anyone read the interview with Bill Foley in the HQ? Anything of any interest in it?

    I’m not buying the magazine cos I’m in the huff with Hibs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J-C View Post
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    Unfortunately Ron allowed his son too much power re scouting etc and I think he looked at FM too much thinking all he had to do was bring in some young talent, develop them and sell for millions, that usually only happens in a football simulation game, getting McDermott was the 1st decent thing they did.
    Hard to disagree with that. It certainly seems that way. The jury is still out on McDermott for me though. When we're finishing 7th at best then everyone is open to criticism.

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    Not really been on here the past week or so but have been keeping up to date with news etc.

    A statement that was much needed with hopefully a reset behind the scenes.

    Just wanting this season to end.

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    Has Foley been to a Hibs match yet?

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    What is the difference between a technical director and sporting director?

    From what I’ve read they’re near identical roles.

    Probably just a different name of tital with us no longer having a sporting director and McDerrmot going to head scout or similar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Betty Boop View Post
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    Has Foley been to a Hibs match yet?
    People on here said he was at the St Johnstone game

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe breezy View Post
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    People on here said he was at the St Johnstone game
    I think folk expected him to be but then I’m sure we found out he was at the Bournemouth game that day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unseen work View Post
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    What is the difference between a technical director and sporting director?

    From what I’ve read they’re near identical roles.

    Probably just a different name of tital with us no longer having a sporting director and McDerrmot going to head scout or similar.
    According to Chat GPT:-

    The technical director typically focuses on the technical aspects of the team, such as player development, scouting, and coaching, while a sporting director oversees the club's overall sporting operations, including transfers, contracts, and strategic planning. While there can be overlap, the technical director is more focused on on-field matters, while the sporting director has a broader role in shaping the club's sporting direction and strategy.

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    According to Chat GPT:-

    The technical director typically focuses on the technical aspects of the team, such as player development, scouting, and coaching, while a sporting director oversees the club's overall sporting operations, including transfers, contracts, and strategic planning. While there can be overlap, the technical director is more focused on on-field matters, while the sporting director has a broader role in shaping the club's sporting direction and strategy.
    Do clubs our size usually have a DoF and a technical director? Starting to feel we are creating positions which add no value to the team. Maybe I’m just out of touch with modern football.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donegal Hibby View Post
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    Main problem we've had hasn't been managers but our recruitment which has been poor going back 3 years or more with signings like Drey Wright , Scott , Mitchell etc , over the last while we seem to have been chasing young players that were going to make us money in Melkersen, Kenneh , Jair etc .

    Something we are still suffering for now and probably will for a couple of windows yet . Get the recruitment right and we give whoever the manager is a better chance to succeed.
    The Black knights think the same . Manager after manager leaving the club all down to poor recruitment over the last few years . Good post

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trinity Hibee View Post
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    Do clubs our size usually have a DoF and a technical director? Starting to feel we are creating positions which add no value to the team. Maybe I’m just out of touch with modern football.
    Wouldn't be surprised to see a Technical Director come in and McDermott's role as DOF disappear, I'd like to think the BK group has a better scouting system in place too.

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    Wouldn't be surprised to see a Technical Director come in and McDermott's role as DOF disappear, I'd like to think the BK group has a better scouting system in place too.
    Fair enough, I know it’s been mentioned BM might be away anyway so this may be the replacement as you said

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe breezy View Post
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    People on here said he was at the St Johnstone game
    Don’t think he was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimBHibees View Post
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    Don’t think he was.
    Too windy to fly up from Bournemouth

    Probably just as well
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    Quote Originally Posted by BILLYHIBS View Post
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    Too windy to fly up from Bournemouth

    Probably just as well
    Was thinking that 😄

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    What is the difference between a technical director and sporting director?

    From what I’ve read they’re near identical roles.

    Probably just a different name of tital with us no longer having a sporting director and McDerrmot going to head scout or similar.
    I think when we all asked for a Director of Football to come in what we wanted was someone that did what were now looking for a Technical Director to do with the added element of recruitment. We now appear to be either gearing up to punt him or split the roles.

    The McDermott appointment has been a dud for a lot of reasons imo, but the biggest one was that it just wasn't a good fit for either party in a long term capacity.

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    So the idea of appointing a “football person “isn’t necessarily the be all and end all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BILLYHIBS View Post
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    Too windy to fly up from Bournemouth

    Probably just as well
    Might have been good for him seeing such a good support being badly let down in real life rather than just reading a match report


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    Admittedly my knowledge of top level football is small, but for me we need a head coach, a head of recruitment with contacts and a track record and a head of youth development. That covers all the basis required for the footballing side.

    I suppose a DOF could cover all basis to a certain extend, but IMO spending the money across the 3 areas on specialised people rather than a larger salary on the more senior role might be more beneficial.

    You then have the CEO to head up those 3 people. Whether or not Kensell is the person to do that is up for debate.

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    Just read Monty’s EEN response to the board statement: “ The stats, the metrics, everything around the season, there are a lot of positives.” So, at least the stats and metrics are fine ….🤔

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint Hibee View Post
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    Just read Monty’s EEN response to the board statement: “ The stats, the metrics, everything around the season, there are a lot of positives.” So, at least the stats and metrics are fine ….🤔
    There’s a bit more to what he says than that though…..

    “I know we should have done better. We were 20 seconds' difference from the top six but, even if we'd got there, I would still have looked at this season as not enough points, too many points dropped from winning positions, so it wouldn't have changed the review that we did. A lot of the stats and metrics in my time at the club have been really positive but ultimately results paper over a lot of those good stats because it's about the result at the end of the day.”

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    Are we having an open topped bus for our fantastic metrics?

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    Do we get a trophy for our fantastic metrics?
    Less talk, more gifs. 21.05.16

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint Hibee View Post
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    Just read Monty’s EEN response to the board statement: “ The stats, the metrics, everything around the season, there are a lot of positives.” So, at least the stats and metrics are fine ….🤔
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    There’s a bit more to what he says than that though…..

    “I know we should have done better. We were 20 seconds' difference from the top six but, even if we'd got there, I would still have looked at this season as not enough points, too many points dropped from winning positions, so it wouldn't have changed the review that we did. A lot of the stats and metrics in my time at the club have been really positive but ultimately results paper over a lot of those good stats because it's about the result at the end of the day.”
    Why context is important.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs View Post
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    Are we having an open topped bus for our fantastic metrics?
    😄

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    He also says...

    "“, a lot of players contracted to the club that have not contributed anything this season to Hibs, and some who may never contribute."

    He's probably right but not sure sharing that thought publicly is a good thing just now.
    I seem to remember a certain Mr Butcher say similar... that went well

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just Alf View Post
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    He also says...

    "“, a lot of players contracted to the club that have not contributed anything this season to Hibs, and some who may never contribute."

    He's probably right but not sure sharing that thought publicly is a good thing just now.
    I seem to remember a certain Mr Butcher say similar... that went well
    I’d assume he’s referring to the 18 odd players we’ve got out on loan. Some amount of cash wasted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveHFC View Post
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    Do we get a trophy for our fantastic metrics?
    We didn't have metrics when I started supporting Hibs, and now we've finally got some so it's not as bad a season as it first appeared to be.

    As soon as I find out what metrics actually are I will look forward to the club contacting me to sell me the memorabilia associated with them.

    Hopefully we get the giant foam hands next, with metrics written on them.

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