I posted yesterday that us, Hearts, Aberdeen and Dundee United are all clubs who have had similar levels of success this century. Combined, the 4 of us have had 60 managers. Absolutely none of us have had a manager who has started poorly to the extent Montgomery has and turned it around.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Out of all the managers who have been unarguable successes that have built something over a semi sustained period between all of the 4 clubs, they all have one thing in common, and that’s that they came straight in the door and had a fairly successful first season, showing that they’re deserving of building something. Hearts had Levein in the early 2000s, we had Mowbray, Stubbs and Lennon, Aberdeen had Calderwood and McInnes and DU had Levein, Houston and McNamara.
The fact that 60 different appointments at clubs our size can’t point to a manager who performs as bad as Montgomery has for such a sustained period but then managed to turn it round would suggest it just doesn’t happen.
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16-04-2024 02:36 PM #91
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16-04-2024 03:08 PM #92This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Kensell and co won't sack him, because if they do it's another admittance of a failed appointment in their regime, regardless of how much they were involved in identifying the manager.
McDermott will leave they will deflect.
Kensell should be the first to go.
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16-04-2024 03:14 PM #93
Reviews are standard practice however if someone is leaking e-mails again that's disgraceful.
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16-04-2024 03:19 PM #94
We signed a manager who won the Oz league twice, with an unfashionable club who a Scottish Cup hero raved about as salvaging his career. It was a reasonable appointment, but there's always an element of a gamble.
If we signed Mcinnes and got hit with an injury crisis, the atmosphere would be toxic that the hun hoofball merchant was in charge at our club.
I'm concerned that the atmosphere has been toxic since Covid, when fans were grumbling through a 3rd place finish and 3 hampden trips and it's going to take an actual disaster to hit the reset button on whatever is going on.
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16-04-2024 03:21 PM #95This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
But lost out on a decent few quid that could have been used to prevent similar embarrassing defeats next season.
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16-04-2024 03:32 PM #98This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
It's not always the cynical reason.
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16-04-2024 03:36 PM #99This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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16-04-2024 03:38 PM #100
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if your appointing someone on a 3 year deal on the basis of making sweeping changes at the club you should allow a period of time.
‘Shouldn’t stick with it just cause it worked for them’ name me a club who has had any sort of success sacking managers less than 12 months in to the job it’s not just them its worked for.
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16-04-2024 03:51 PM #101
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16-04-2024 03:53 PM #102This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
There's folk on here been watching Scottish football their whole lives, you're probably one of them, that will know a damn sight more than either of them ever will.
We've collectively been saying what the team needs for over 3 years, yet the pros running our club either can't see it or can't fix it.
They've maybe learnt, and will maybe be able to sort things out in the summer, but it's easy to see why folk are cynical about those running the club.
If anything, you could say that the people thinking everything is fine behind the scenes at ER are either blinkered or just don't want to hear it.
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16-04-2024 04:01 PM #103This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Pedro Caixinha and Graeme Murty both had less than 12 months in the job at Rangers before getting sacked. Gerrard came in, took them to a european cup final, and won the league unbeaten.
Ipswich sacked Paul Cook after 11 months. Kieran McKenna came in and got them promoted from League 1 and they're now almost in the Prem.
Steven Gerrard got sacked after 11 months at Villa. In came Unai Emery and they've been brilliant.
I've provided the examples you asked for, but I don't think any of those things have anything to do with our situation. What's happened elsewhere, with different managers is irrelevant. I'm judging Montgomery on what's happened here only.
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16-04-2024 04:04 PM #104
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16-04-2024 06:54 PM #108
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You can thank me later 😘
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16-04-2024 07:13 PM #110
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The leak isn’t from within the club. It’s Kensell sending a response to a fans email to him.
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16-04-2024 07:13 PM #111This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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16-04-2024 07:16 PM #113This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
It's something about nothing.
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16-04-2024 07:20 PM #114This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
He's average so let's crack on?
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16-04-2024 07:21 PM #115
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Those pointing out that he didn’t win the league in the hope it downplays Monty’s achievements are actually only enhancing what he did in terms of titles and honours.
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16-04-2024 07:31 PM #117
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If it’s related to the email that went round then I’d suggest somebody has embellished things a bit.
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16-04-2024 07:32 PM #118This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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16-04-2024 09:35 PM #119This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
If they are minded to fire him, it should be done as quickly as possible to give whoever comes in as much time as possible to get ready for next season.
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17-04-2024 12:00 AM #120
He’ll be punted if we lose the first 2 games in the bottom 6….and if he isn’t… he f******* well should be.
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