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14-04-2024 02:02 PM #31
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14-04-2024 02:05 PM #32
Just looked at the break downs of the wins, draws and losses since he came in
Aberdeen - LWD - 4 points
Celtic- DLL - 1 point
Dundee - DWW - 6 points
Forfar - W - cup
Inverness - W - cup
Kilmarnock - DWD - 5 points
Livingston - WW - 6 points
Hearts - DLD - 2 points
Motherwell DD - 2 points
Rangers LLLL - 0 points
Ross County. DWD - 5 points
St Johnstone - WLL- 3 points
St Mirren - WDL - 4 points
Interesting he not bad returns against Dundee and Kilmarnock.
No results against rangers and then losing 2 against Ross County are damming though.
8 points out of a possible 18 against the bottom 2 clubs.
If we treat all them as points available including cups, it means he’s got 42/102 available.Last edited by Unseen work; 14-04-2024 at 02:14 PM.
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14-04-2024 02:10 PM #33This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
The idea that managers can’t be judged until they get a new squad of players is utterly bat**** mental. It’s even more stupid when he’s demonstrated absolutely nothing to suggest he knows what he’s doing.
He was given a squad of players that qualified for Europe and was so bad at managing it that he dragged us into the bottom 6. Anybody giving this clown a money to buy anyone, deserves sacked.
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14-04-2024 02:19 PM #34
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What's the point in anyone signing any players then, they should all just make do with what they have according to this logic.
Tell me a manager that's joined a club and had success without signing a single player?
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14-04-2024 02:23 PM #35This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Monty’s never really had that effect with us and I think that is a lot of people’s issue
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14-04-2024 02:28 PM #36
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Who's got the number for Sam Allardyce?
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14-04-2024 02:34 PM #37This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
You’re right, we should go for a manager that has no impact.
My apologies.
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14-04-2024 03:00 PM #38
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14-04-2024 03:10 PM #39
I wonder at the motivation of volunteering your opinion on a thread like this at the moment, when there are so many angry types ready to call you stupid and bat**** crazy and throw all sort of other stuff around when you have a different opinion? Its a Feeding frenzy.
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14-04-2024 03:15 PM #40
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I'd take sustained success over impact any day. It remains to be seen if NM is the man to deliver that, but I think he should be given more time to show if he can do so.
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14-04-2024 03:18 PM #42
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We’ve seen the identity in fleeting moments and games but unfortunately the players can’t do it consistently.
As far as I know the mood around Montgomery (with the players) is very good and they like his training and Raimundo. Psychologically though they’ve just not got it.
We can blame the manager but we equally need to blame a group of players which has seen off several managers.
Rotten to the core at the minute.
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14-04-2024 03:18 PM #43
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Is he still in the job? Nonsense if he is.
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14-04-2024 03:18 PM #44
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We need Mr Foley and his team to sort out the recruitment department and selection process as a matter of urgency.
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14-04-2024 03:20 PM #45
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But its lacklustre, ponderous, lethargic, backwards football. Why on earth we are still taking short goal kicks when we have no players that are comfortable on the ball then questions have to be asked and answered.
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14-04-2024 03:25 PM #46
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When I seen line up yesterday I wasn’t sure it was way to go. 4atacking mids two denfensive ball winning mids. Nearly worked though. And for better finishing we’d have nicked it comfortably.
Hibs manager job has become let’s try something else,I’m not sure I’ve totally reached that point with Montgomery. I think he’s learning fast and I also feel we should give this another season despite feeling abject about bottom six status.
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14-04-2024 03:44 PM #48
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14-04-2024 03:47 PM #50
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Last season and this season are identical IMO. Neither Johnson, Montgomery or the squad are the answer.
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14-04-2024 04:12 PM #52
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He’s certainly ruffled a few feathers, the right ones in my opinion but on the whole he’s largely liked.
There’s going to be massive changes whether he stays or not and it’s about time. I’d like to see him get the chance to see them through as I believe he can be very successful but equally bottom six is a poor return.
I feel for him as some of the squad are just not able to do what he wants consistently and he’s told some that.
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14-04-2024 04:22 PM #54
I think that in general that although we have some good individual players, they don’t fit in to any coherent concept of a squad. Marcondes spends half his time playing flicks to nobody at all, Maolida is very good, NMW could be very good for us but the players around him don’t compliment him. The defence is shocking.
It’s all still got the whiff of when we got giddy about the idea of development teams and stats being a massive part of our recruitment that led to the likes of Mueller, Deferierre, Hauge, Balde, Emmanuel Johnson, Melkersen, and the like being signed.
There are far bigger issues at our club than just the manager and I still do rate him, he’s just not that experienced and has an absolute mountain to climb to form any sort of squad out of what we have.
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14-04-2024 04:25 PM #55
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How often did we misplace passes yesterday, how often did we shirk challenges yesterday and how about not closing down their only shot on target.
That’s not his fault. He’s got plenty wrong but he’s learning quickly unfortunately he may not get the opportunity to take us forward but thankfully a lot of the players will be out on their backsides too.
The transformation will be startling.
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14-04-2024 04:25 PM #56
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What does that say about Montgomery? Sack him now and he can get a top job back in Australia. At this stage that would probably suit everyone.
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I really dislike that about players. A new manager comes in and it’s always “the intensity is higher, really good sessions, loads of information, clear way of playing” etc
Couple of losses and all of a sudden they dislike them
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14-04-2024 04:29 PM #58
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14-04-2024 04:30 PM #59
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I’ve stuck up for him a fair bit as I think he’s been unfortunate at times and there is a hardly a player there that I care about keeping. But he’s not delivered enough and it’ll have cost us a fortune as well as just being absolutely ***** from a footballing perspective.Last edited by B.H.F.C; 14-04-2024 at 04:35 PM.
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14-04-2024 04:34 PM #60
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Every time a manager gets the sack you get a wee initial reaction. Then you hear all the usual chat you mention. Then they revert to type and get the next on the sack.
I’d clear out as much as possible. It’s two in one season they’ve let down, even if neither of the two they’ve let down we’re perfect.
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