Aberdeen statement Var farce

[DH1875]

Turkey is supposedly bringing in foreign refs to do their VAR for some games because their refs are dodgy.

[joe breezy]

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It's not a failure of the technology itself. It's the failure of the clowns to use it properly, which is entirely intentional in my opinion. They don't want their cheating to be repeatedly highlighted, so getting it ditched allows them to go back to their old methods of cheating where we all have a wee whinge and a moan about it, but ultimately nothing is done about it. They'll favour The Rangers with VAR, they'll favour The Rangers without VAR. Only difference is they can say they no longer have VAR available to review their decisions, allowing them to go back to gaslighting people with the "honest mistake" crap.

This sums it up


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[Paul1642]

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No. I said it before VAR was implemented - football being down to split second decisions in the moment was the best we had. No goals being checked to see if a toenail was offside, just the jubilation of that in a moment. Bad decision? Go into the pub after and complain about how you think the ref was biased, rather than have VAR confirm that the whole system is fundamentally wrong.

VAR fixes mistakes, it exacerbates bias. We tried to fix the wrong problem.

VAR has taken away the excitement of a goal to some degree for me. It used to just be a quick glance at the linesman and you knew it stood.

Waiting minutes to know if a goal will stand or not is wrong.

[overdrive]

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Turkey is supposedly bringing in foreign refs to do their VAR for some games because their refs are dodgy.

Guess who is in a senior position in the Turkish referee hierarchy.

Dallas Senior.

[Donegal Hibby]

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With our pompous arrogant referees? You'd just see more of them sticking with the on field decision if asked to come over to the monitor.

We could always get rid of them too and make a clean slate of it though I doubt the SFA would agree with that though as they are as bad as any officials.

[number9dream]

SFA has released latest VAR panel’s list of blunders, which includes the penalty Hearts got at Tynecastle and the lack of pen for Mitov on Marcondes - but NOT the Devlin handball at Pittodrie, which we claimed we got an apology for!
If that’s not considered a mistake, then it makes a mockery of the process…Ross County throw-in not on the list and neither is the incident that got Aberdeen so worked up.

[Tyler Durden]

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SFA has released latest VAR panel’s list of blunders, which includes the penalty Hearts got at Tynecastle and the lack of pen for Mitov on Marcondes - but NOT the Devlin handball at Pittodrie, which we claimed we got an apology for!
If that’s not considered a mistake, then it makes a mockery of the process…Ross County throw-in not on the list and neither is the incident that got Aberdeen so worked up.

Where can you see the list?

[CapitalGreen]

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SFA has released latest VAR panel’s list of blunders, which includes the penalty Hearts got at Tynecastle and the lack of pen for Mitov on Marcondes - but NOT the Devlin handball at Pittodrie, which we claimed we got an apology for!
If that’s not considered a mistake, then it makes a mockery of the process…Ross County throw-in not on the list and neither is the incident that got Aberdeen so worked up.

The Ross County throw incident wouldn’t be looked at by VAR.

The exclusion of the Aberdeen handball is absurd considering we received an apology.

[number9dream]

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Where can you see the list?

On the Beeb website for one. It will be all over, I’m sure, since it says both penalties in the Hearts win over Celtic were wrong.
Can’t take the accuracy figures seriously though if they’re not considering the Devlin handball.

[JimBHibees]

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SFA has released latest VAR panel’s list of blunders, which includes the penalty Hearts got at Tynecastle and the lack of pen for Mitov on Marcondes - but NOT the Devlin handball at Pittodrie, which we claimed we got an apology for!
If that’s not considered a mistake, then it makes a mockery of the process…Ross County throw-in not on the list and neither is the incident that got Aberdeen so worked up.

Absolutely trolling saying not an error for Devlin handball. I mean wtf. Marking their own homework is not fit for purpose as a governance process

[number9dream]

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The Ross County throw incident wouldn’t be looked at by VAR.

The exclusion of the Aberdeen handball is absurd considering we received an apology.

A mistake leading to a goal? Or would it need to be foul play / offside?

Hibs released the apology statement, then SFA denied it - which might be the reason it’s not included… Smacks of someone higher up the SFA chain slapping down whoever had the sense to say ‘aye, it was a shocker’…

[Tyler Durden]

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On the Beeb website for one. It will be all over, I’m sure, since it says both penalties in the Hearts win over Celtic were wrong.
Can’t take the accuracy figures seriously though if they’re not considering the Devlin handball.

Thanks

Yeah agree 100%, what a farce

[CapitalGreen]

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A mistake leading to a goal? Or would it need to be foul play / offside?

Hibs released the apology statement, then SFA denied it - which might be the reason it’s not included… Smacks of someone higher up the SFA chain slapping down whoever had the sense to say ‘aye, it was a shocker’…

No different to the incorrect awarding of a corner instead of a bye-kick which results in a goal, VAR can’t intervene. The only way VAR can intervene on the award of a corner/throw/bye kick is when the ball has gone out of play in the lead up to an reviewable incident and it was missed by the officials.

[Cameron1875]

Three pre-split final results of D v Aberdeen, D v Hearts, and L v St Johnstone could have therefore been completely different if VAR worked correctly then?

Makes you sick to think we missed out on top 6 by a point when there were 3 key matches affected by wrong decisions.

[NadeAteMyLunch!]

We can moan about Monty and the players loads and plenty is justified but we’ve been robbed of a top 6 place by a series of horrific decisions over the course of the season. Sickening

[Since452]

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We can moan about Monty and the players loads and plenty is justified but we’ve been robbed of a top 6 place by a series of horrific decisions over the course of the season. Sickening

Robbed of 3rd place last season too.

[Heisenberg]

The fact they aren’t willing to admit the Devlin handball should’ve been a penalty is mind blowing. Makes a mockery of the whole thing.

[NadeAteMyLunch!]

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Robbed of 3rd place last season too.

Shambles honestly. It all evens itself out though apparently

[Chorley Hibee]

I'm surprised they've listed the Hearts penalty against us as a VAR mistake, as VAR asked the referee to look at it again.

It was the referee who overruled VAR and made the incorrect decision.

For them not to include the handball at Aberdeen though is just laughable.

[Tyler Durden]

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I'm surprised they've listed the Hearts penalty against us as a VAR mistake, as VAR asked the referee to look at it again.

It was the referee who overruled VAR and made the incorrect decision.

For them not to include the handball at Aberdeen though is just laughable.

To be fair that's an example where they make clear that the VAR intervention was correct but the ref was incorrect to stick with his decision.

[Tyler Durden]

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Robbed of 3rd place last season too.

4th surely?

It is sickening though and due to the club's own failings separately, any complaints about this stuff is just viewed as sour grapes.

The clubs need to come forward and scrap it asap. Surely Aberdeen, Hibs, Motherwell for starters would be in favour of getting rid. And you'd have to think another 3 of the typical bottom 6 teams would be happy to get rid on cost grounds alone.

[gbhibby]

Watching Rugby League super league highlights, ref mic'd up and you hear the exchanges between ref and VAR. Football is always much slower to bring in things than Rugby despite having much greater financial muscle.
Change the offside and handball rules, refs exchanges with VAR being broadcast the games a good un.

[He's here!]

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SFA has released latest VAR panel’s list of blunders, which includes the penalty Hearts got at Tynecastle and the lack of pen for Mitov on Marcondes - but NOT the Devlin handball at Pittodrie, which we claimed we got an apology for!
If that’s not considered a mistake, then it makes a mockery of the process…Ross County throw-in not on the list and neither is the incident that got Aberdeen so worked up.

Hearts appear to have benefited more than most from the mistakes listed.

[Broken Gnome]

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Hearts appear to have benefited more than most from the mistakes listed.

30 per cent of the list featuring penalty decisions that went Hearts way is quite something.

On the Aberdeen handball incident, are we going to be given any sort of clarification on that? Hibs went quite silent rather than tit for tat with the SFA - did our statement get it wrong?

[Bobby's Cinema]

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The fact they aren’t willing to admit the Devlin handball should’ve been a penalty is mind blowing. Makes a mockery of the whole thing.

It met almost every criteria for being a handball. Deliberate, hand to ball, arm in an unnatural position, arm outstretched making the body bigger, distance between when the ball was struck and the hand, clear line of sight of the ball.

One of the worst decisions I've seen.

[Stubbsy90+2]

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Three pre-split final results of D v Aberdeen, D v Hearts, and L v St Johnstone could have therefore been completely different if VAR worked correctly then?

Makes you sick to think we missed out on top 6 by a point when there were 3 key matches affected by wrong decisions.

An independent body also deemed that numerous St Mirren and Dundee games were impacted (and not in their favour) by incorrect VAR decisions, and that’s just the ones the independent body pointed out (to put it into perspective, they didn’t mention any decisions against Hibs, so it can’t be looking at every decision) so there’s a good chance they will be able to point to others. If we’re going to give ourselves extra points, then they should be getting them as well and we’d likely have still missed out on top 6 regardless.

[Heisenberg]

VAR postive vs negative impact table on every club this season

Kilmarnock +3
Ross county +2
Aberdeen +2
Celtic +1
Motherwell +1
Hearts 0
St Johnstone 0
Dundee -1
Rangers -1
Livingston -1
Hibs -2
St Mirren -4

This is supposedly the way it looks based on all of the decisions reported by the SFA. St Mirren the most heavily ****ed over followed by us. Obviously doesn’t take into account the massive number of other decisions they’ve just decided to ignore for some reason.

[Stubbsy90+2]

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VAR postive vs negative impact table on every club this season

Kilmarnock +3
Ross county +2
Aberdeen +2
Celtic +1
Motherwell +1
Hearts 0
St Johnstone 0
Dundee -1
Rangers -1
Livingston -1
Hibs -2
St Mirren -4

This is supposedly the way it looks based on all of the decisions reported by the SFA. St Mirren the most heavily ****ed over followed by us. Obviously doesn’t take into account the massive number of other decisions they’ve just decided to ignore for some reason.

Short of every decision being reviewed, we’ll simply never know who’s been worst off in terms of decisions.

From the independent review that easty posted on a thread a week or so ago, we had never had any wrong decisions go our way, which of course we know is incorrect. Dundee had loads go against them.

Also, if you watch Sportscene etc, you’re not necessarily going to see all these decisions. The decision that probably gets referenced the most on here is the Ross County throw in, which wasn’t even anything to do with VAR. Sportscene showed the throw in being taken, the goal being scored and that was it. Nobody at any point mentioned it should have been our ball etc, so fans of other teams wouldn’t have even known it happened. That will have been the case for hundreds of decisions over the season, where unless you were at/watching the game, you’ll never know they even happened.

Both the VAR and refereeing in this country are horrendous. It would be an impossible task to say who’s been hit worst though and I’d imagine numerous fans forums across the country will be claiming it’s been them.

[Since452]

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4th surely?

It is sickening though and due to the club's own failings separately, any complaints about this stuff is just viewed as sour grapes.

The clubs need to come forward and scrap it asap. Surely Aberdeen, Hibs, Motherwell for starters would be in favour of getting rid. And you'd have to think another 3 of the typical bottom 6 teams would be happy to get rid on cost grounds alone.

We finished 5 points off 3rd last season and we were done out of 6 points off the top of my head. Or at least they would have put us in very strong positions in those games.

[JimBHibees]

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The fact they aren’t willing to admit the Devlin handball should’ve been a penalty is mind blowing. Makes a mockery of the whole thing.

Agree no credibility at all if not including that horror show decision