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    Quote Originally Posted by gbhibby View Post
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    Also Billy Souttars arms make contact with Nectars body as he is off the ground mid jump
    He done similar to Martin Boyle

    He's going to cause a serious injury if thats how he's now operating

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    Quote Originally Posted by Potty78 View Post
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    Might be wrong but I only see one foot encroaching and it's Scott Wright's?
    Correct. No Hibs player set a foot in the penalty box before Tavernier struck the ball

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    Quote Originally Posted by Callum_62 View Post
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    He done similar to Martin Boyle

    He's going to cause a serious injury if thats how he's now operating

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    He did indeed and has already caused a serious injury in the case of Martin Boyle. Boyle may have returned but was out fur a fortnight and the potential for lasting effects are unimaginable.
    The rule makers need to address cloggers like Souter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McGruber View Post
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    Just for the record it was never a penalty but was the correct call to disallow the goal for encroaching.

    Offside and encroaching are not the same. Clement and Rangers obviously don't know the rule.

    For encroachment it doesn't matter if Rocky and Youan are ahead of Wright. It is only contact with the ground in the box when the penalty is struck.

    Only Wright's foot is down. Rocky & Youan are mid stride but no foot grounded.

    ALF is the closest as the D counts but even then his foot is well in the D but still off the ground when the ball is struck (marginally but that's what VAR is for)

    We never got away with anything on that call - most have just assumed same rule as offside.

    That aside - we were well beat so is immaterial.

    Just going on record that we are still waiting on our first dodgy VAR call

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    See for “encroachment” - do you have to have a body part planted on the ground (like Wright’s foot) for it to be encroachment or can you be in the box if your feet are outside but the body is leaning in?

    Is it like offside, where it’s to do with the part of the body that is legally allowed to play the ball, so an arm or hand would be ok?



    This is all quite interesting tbh - as much football as I’ve played and watched over the years, I really don’t understand nuances of the rules.
    Like McGruber says, a part of the body has to be touching the ground. Something the Sportscene pundits don't know and no doubt it will be the same on Superscoreboard this evening.




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    And Dermott Gallagher says it was a definite penalty and yellow card this morning on Sky Sports News

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    Quote Originally Posted by 007 View Post
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    Like McGruber says, a part of the body has to be touching the ground. Something the Sportscene pundits don't know and no doubt it will be the same on Superscoreboard this evening.



    I’m not sure who’s boot it is, but the Hibs players boot looks planted inside the D? The sort of turquoise-ish boot with white toe?

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    I’m not sure who’s boot it is, but the Hibs players boot looks planted inside the D? The sort of turquoise-ish boot with white toe?
    Looks like Traintis. Not sure his foot is on the ground inside the D from that picture though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gbhibby View Post
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    What game was that?
    Apparently it was rangers v napoli

    https://www.reuters.com/lifestyle/sports/napoli-strike-late-after-politano-penalty-beat-rangers-3-0-2022-09-14/#:~:text=Zielinski's%20tame%20shot%20was%20first,b y%20the%20Napoli%20forward%20line.

    Zielinski's tame shot was first saved by McGregor before Politano reacted sharply to slide the ball home but the Video Assistant Referee ordered the penalty to be retaken for encroachment by the Napoli forward line.


    It was retaken because, although a napoli player was in the box, so was a rangers player. Tavernier!!

    https://www-footballscotland-co-uk.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.footballscotland.co.uk/spfl/other-football/why-napoli-penalty-rangers-retaken-25021594.amp?amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQIUA KwASCAAgM%3D#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=1711975872 2872&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&ampshar e=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.footballscotland.co.uk%2Fspfl% 2Fother-football%2Fwhy-napoli-penalty-rangers-retaken-25021594
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    Quote Originally Posted by darwenhibby View Post
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    And Dermott Gallagher says it was a definite penalty and yellow card this morning on Sky Sports News
    Gallagher is probably the biggest ******** to be ever given telly time and thankfully I've not had the misfortune to see the irritating prick for ages. Whatever he says is usually the total opposite of the truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns View Post
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    Apparently it was rangers v napoli

    https://www.reuters.com/lifestyle/sports/napoli-strike-late-after-politano-penalty-beat-rangers-3-0-2022-09-14/#:~:text=Zielinski's%20tame%20shot%20was%20first,b y%20the%20Napoli%20forward%20line.

    Zielinski's tame shot was first saved by McGregor before Politano reacted sharply to slide the ball home but the Video Assistant Referee ordered the penalty to be retaken for encroachment by the Napoli forward line.


    It was retaken because, although a napoli player was in the box, so was a rangers player. Tavernier!!

    https://www-footballscotland-co-uk.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.footballscotland.co.uk/spfl/other-football/why-napoli-penalty-rangers-retaken-25021594.amp?amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQIUA KwASCAAgM%3D#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=1711975872 2872&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&ampshar e=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.footballscotland.co.uk%2Fspfl% 2Fother-football%2Fwhy-napoli-penalty-rangers-retaken-25021594
    Thought that was the one he would quote so not the same as the one on Saturday.

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    I’m not sure who’s boot it is, but the Hibs players boot looks planted inside the D? The sort of turquoise-ish boot with white toe?
    The paragraph underneath the one I highlighted is also relevant. The player has to have a material impact on the outcome. Scott Wright had a material impact on the outcome because he stuck it in the net, any Hibs players encroaching is therefore academic. If they'd blocked the shot or got to it before Wright and cleared it then it would have been a retake.

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    The paragraph underneath the one I highlighted is also relevant. The player has to have a material impact on the outcome. Scott Wright had a material impact on the outcome because he stuck it in the net, any Hibs players encroaching is therefore academic. If they'd blocked the shot or got to it before Wright and cleared it then it would have been a retake.
    If that’s in the rules it’s case closed 👍

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    Quote Originally Posted by 007 View Post
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    The paragraph underneath the one I highlighted is also relevant. The player has to have a material impact on the outcome. Scott Wright had a material impact on the outcome because he stuck it in the net, any Hibs players encroaching is therefore academic. If they'd blocked the shot or got to it before Wright and cleared it then it would have been a retake.
    Didn’t notice that bit if that’s in there. If that’s the case then it’s the correct decision

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