Point taken. Mathematically it’s technically out of our hands but we have 9 points up for grabs. If come April 14th 47 points wouldn’t have gotten us in the top 6 drop I’ll be beyond surprised.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I still think 6 will do the job.
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Thread: Will we make top 6?
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19-03-2024 04:42 PM #31
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19-03-2024 05:00 PM #34
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I wouldn’t put money on us finishing top six but we do have a bit of momentum.
There’s plenty positives when you look at our players individually.
Most of them have hit a bit of form and our defence has improved.
It’s going to be a close call but one thing I would say is that it’s unacceptable for a club this size to be finishing bottom six.
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19-03-2024 05:15 PM #35
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19-03-2024 05:17 PM #36This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
If we can take the 6 points you mention, at least the fight will be on.
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19-03-2024 05:21 PM #37
One thing that should be a given is if we don’t make top six Montgomery has to go. That is a minimum and with the window we’ve just had and the fixtures we’ve had since not making top six is a failure. I think we will make it and kick on post split.
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19-03-2024 05:31 PM #38
St Mirren have a really tricky run in and could potentially get nowt
So I believe we will
GG2TH
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19-03-2024 06:07 PM #39This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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19-03-2024 06:18 PM #40
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19-03-2024 09:04 PM #41
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Don't get this Dundee will only get 4 points - they could easily get 9 or 10 (less likely now their home game v Sevco has been postponed).
We really needed the two points we dropped v Ross County last week.
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19-03-2024 09:12 PM #42This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
i hope rangers are still in with a chance of winning the tittle and they play us at easter road last game of season, id give them no tickets and watch the seeth
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19-03-2024 09:32 PM #43This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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19-03-2024 09:56 PM #47
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Neither Hibs or Dundee will beat Rangers so it all boils down to the remaining games before the split.Hibs should beat St J .Dundee are away to St J and home to Motherwell before the last fixture before the split..Not easy games for Dundee but give them 4 points.Down to the last game and Dundee are up in Aberdeen and we are away to Well.I think the Dons will beat Dundee and let’s hope Hibs get the result we need .Simple
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19-03-2024 10:18 PM #48This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Into days climate some fans (who apparently know everything about tactics although they don't work with the players every day) would have torn him down piece by piece.
McLeish was a great man manager, an aspect more important than having tactical nous imho - that can come supplementally.
He learned a bit on the job, his season with Motherwell, the latter part of the first/relegation season with Hibs and then in the first division.
He lucked out a bit first by being chosen as a EUFA observer, taking tactical notes on Portugal in the World Cup in 1998, where he picked up on the 352 formation then again where injury to McIntosh forced him to move Sauzee to the middle of the back three, where he played for Hibs thereafter. Sacking him after the relegation would have been idiotic because, as I have pointed out, he was a cracking man manager who then slowly came across a tactical set-up which worked L.f.
Would you have sacked him after the relegation?
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19-03-2024 11:15 PM #49This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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Maybe it doesn't suit you to see the comparison as valid, fair enough.
I reckon it's perfectly valid and in the modern culture, where the internet is way more pervasive than in 1998, McLeish would have a whole host of fans tearing strips off him including minor gripes being amplified way above their importance and lambasting him for the failures of others.
There's a lack of patience around NM, some people wanted him out months ago even though there's obvious signs of learning and is on a bit of an up people are scared of their opinion being proved wrong (a known internet trait) and are picking on anything from his manner of speech to perceived tactical mistakes.
I think we'd be getting rid of a good man manager, who don't grow on trees, and who is learning about this godforsaken footballing backwater pretty quickly.
You're perfectly entitled to your opinion re the comparison but you've moved from "we were relegated anyway" to picking out an arbitrary length of time. Not washing here I'm afraid.
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20-03-2024 06:08 AM #53
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Making the point out McLeish doesn’t really mean much if you consider the same question can be asked of Butcher, should we have kept him and backed him for the 2014/15 season to get us back up? The answer is obviously no but some at the time were adamant he not be sacked at any point in the run up to us actually getting relegated and I bet he still had one or two supporters even after it that probably pretend they weren’t.
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20-03-2024 07:43 AM #54This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Do you think there would have been a group of Hibs calling for McLeish to be sacked given the lack of patience these days? Some were calling for NM to be sacked by at least new year of not before.
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20-03-2024 08:03 AM #56
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Even in the first year back up, finishing 6th in a 10 team league, with a team including Sauzee, Latapy and Mixu would draw a certain level of criticism.
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20-03-2024 08:34 AM #57This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Even in the first year back up, finishing 6th in a 10 team league, with a team including Sauzee, Latapy and Mixu would draw a certain level of criticism.
He insisted on playing Sauzee in midfield where he would often have to come off after 60-70 minutes leaving us fragile. Only a stroke of bad luck for McIntosh saw him move Sauzee back into a three (good luck for us) then we looked way more balanced.
My opinion, which isn't all that important to me that I'll dig my heels in for ever more, is that we have a great man manager who has made mistakes but is learning quickly, (much like McLeish) he's also had some horrendous officiating which has nibbled away at our points total and probably done us out of a LC final place. He's worth holding onto. It's a gamble but every signing and managerial appointment is a gamble.
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20-03-2024 10:31 AM #58
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It's unfortunate we have to go to Ibrox. On paper Dundee have the easiest of the remaining games and a free hit at Rangers at home.
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20-03-2024 11:02 AM #59
Even one point for St Mirren in their last three (M’Well a, Hearts h, Celtic a) will make it difficult for us to pass them. Think it’ll be tough, but possible, to pass Dundee. If we do pass Dundee we will beat St Mirren into 5th. Taking out Killie for 4th would be a big ask.
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20-03-2024 11:13 AM #60
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