Hearts given 50/50 split v Rangers and Aberdeen rejected for 50/50 split v Celtic

[Diclonius]

The only explanation you can give for this is that Aberdeen are being punished for complaining last time.

[Broken Gnome]

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The only explanation you can give for this is that Aberdeen are being punished for complaining last time.

Aberdeen are never in a million years taking 20,000 to Glasgow for lunchtime kickoff, which is the SFA's explanation isn't it?

Hearts can at least to claim to have a semblance of a chance of selling their allocation, though I'd imagine they'll fall a fair bit short.

Then it comes down to fairness, which is a different kettle of fish admittedly.

[GreenNWhiteArmy]

Disgusting approach. Each club should be given a window to sell 50% of tickets. The remainder are returned and given to opponents if necessary.

Celtic vs livi was 3/4 full in the last round. Same for the other cheek vs Ayr in an earlier round. They've a cheek calling us all out, considering the size of their supports

[VoltaireHibs]

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Aberdeen are never in a million years taking 20,000 to Glasgow for lunchtime kickoff, which is the SFA's explanation isn't it?

Hearts can at least to claim to have a semblance of a chance of selling their allocation, though I'd imagine they'll fall a fair bit short.

Then it comes down to fairness, which is a different kettle of fish admittedly.

With Hearts vast waiting list I'm quite surprised they didn't demand even more. Big club and all that.

[jakedance]

Boils my piss. Every club, regardless of size should be offered 50% of a neutral venue, and then adjustments made from there if tickets can’t be sold.

[gbhibby]

£35000 Cost oer 1000 unsold tickets taking average price

[Pagan Hibernia]

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Disgusting approach. Each club should be given a window to sell 50% of tickets. The remainder are returned and given to opponents if necessary.

Celtic vs livi was 3/4 full in the last round. Same for the other cheek vs Ayr in an earlier round. They've a cheek calling us all out, considering the size of their supports

Celtic had 27k empty seats in the last round

[SaulGoodman]

Neutral venue they say.

“Well you’re not getting a 50/50 split because the Bhoys.. ahem, Celtic will sell more tickets than you. Also you’ll be sitting in the west stand because the east stand is the Celtic end.

Hail hail, I mean, kind regards.

SFA”

[Since452]

Hearts will sell their allocation Aberdeen won't. Don't really see the issue.

Suppose they could have given Aberdeen an initial 25k and given them a deadline to sell them before giving them to Celtic. I doubt they'll have much more than 12k there.

[JimBHibees]

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Hearts will sell their allocation Aberdeen won't. Don't really see the issue.

Suppose they could have given Aberdeen an initial 25k and given them a deadline to sell them before giving them to Celtic. I doubt they'll have much more than 12k there.

Hearts will be nowhere near selling their allocation imo

[Rick Rude]

I doubt hearts or Aberdeen would sell their allocation out but regardless any team that wants 50% for a semi or final should get it even if it means empty seats. It's a neutral ground.

[Since452]

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Hearts will be nowhere near selling their allocation imo

I'm sure they sold 25k against us in 2022. Maybe because they knew they'd win right enough.

[green day]

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I doubt hearts or Aberdeen would sell their allocation out but regardless any team that wants 50% for a semi or final should get it even if it means empty seats. It's a neutral ground.

I thought that in the Scottish Cup they started from the 50/50 premise, unless the club (Aberdeen) say they can't sell them?

Different in League Cup.

[erin go bragh]

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I'm sure they sold 25k against us in 2022. Maybe because they knew they'd win right enough.

11k they sold against Celtic in the 2012 SC semi

[MWHIBBIES]

Hearts fans turned up and sold our semi in 2022. That's evidence that they can do it. Aberdeen and sadly Hibs don't have this evidence and will keep getting knocked back vs old firm.

Its embarrassing that its not the norm, but we gave the SFA the chance to do it and they did it.

[Saint Hibee]

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Boils my piss. Every club, regardless of size should be offered 50% of a neutral venue, and then adjustments made from there if tickets can’t be sold.

1000% this. Anything else is corruption pure and simple.

[blackpoolhibs]

Dont Hearts normally sell around 12k-14k tops against any of the bigots at Hampden semi finals?

[Moulin Yarns]

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Hearts fans turned up and sold our semi in 2022. That's evidence that they can do it. Aberdeen and sadly Hibs don't have this evidence and will keep getting knocked back vs old firm.

Its embarrassing that its not the norm, but we gave the SFA the chance to do it and they did it.

How are clubs supposed to get the evidence for selling out tickets if they are denied the opportunity though?

[DIXIHIBS]

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Dont Hearts normally sell around 12k-14k tops against any of the bigots at Hampden semi finals?

Exactly. No chance they are selling 50% for this. Hibs Hertz and Dons have all sold 25k plus when the circumstances were right....against OF...nah. ps meant 25k at Hampden...not necessarily at semi final.

[Viva_Palmeiras]

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The only explanation you can give for this is that Aberdeen are being punished for complaining last time.

Plus Hearts benefactor subbing Scottish Fitba during COVID probably helped….?

[Phil MaGlass]

I really hope hertz do sell their allocation, this is a moment where the bigwigs at SFA will sneer and say told you so or hertz can sell out and give them the big finger. Cant believe I want hertz to win, jings,crivvens, help ma boab

[Viva_Palmeiras]

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The only explanation you can give for this is that Aberdeen are being punished for complaining last time.

Plus Hearts benefactor subbing Scottish Fitba during COVID probably helped….?

[Jones28]

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Hearts will sell their allocation Aberdeen won't. Don't really see the issue.

Suppose they could have given Aberdeen an initial 25k and given them a deadline to sell them before giving them to Celtic. I doubt they'll have much more than 12k there.

Hearts at least have a fighting chance of selling theirs out, Aberdeen will be nowhere near it. Just had a look and there's 5 trains from Aberdeen to get you in to Queen Street before 12 - one of these leaves at 5.30am.

That game at 2pm would have given them a much better chance to sell more tickets.

Agree 100% though that clubs should be given the chance to sell half before it is taken away. It's totally unfair.

[Pagan Hibernia]

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How are clubs supposed to get the evidence for selling out tickets if they are denied the opportunity though?

Well, it didn't help that when we were offered only 17.5k for the 2021 LC final, we complained and were given another 2000 tickets (still less than celtic) which we then failed to sell out.

That said, morally it's wrong. Neutral venue means starting at 50/50.

Anything else and the natural end result is finals and semi finals which resemble a home game for the old firm

[Jones28]

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Well, it didn't help that when we were offered only 17.5k for the 2021 LC final, we complained and were given another 2000 tickets (still less than celtic) which we then failed to sell out.

That said, morally it's wrong. Neutral venue means starting at 50/50.

Anything else and the natural end result is finals and semi finals which resemble a home game for the old firm

We came pretty close did we not? I can't picture 2000 or so empty seats at that game.

[stantonhibby]

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Well, it didn't help that when we were offered only 17.5k for the 2021 LC final, we complained and were given another 2000 tickets (still less than celtic) which we then failed to sell out.

That said, morally it's wrong. Neutral venue means starting at 50/50.

Anything else and the natural end result is finals and semi finals which resemble a home game for the old firm

Covid had a bit to do with that

[oneone73]

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Well, it didn't help that when we were offered only 17.5k for the 2021 LC final, we complained and were given another 2000 tickets (still less than celtic) which we then failed to sell out.

That said, morally it's wrong. Neutral venue means starting at 50/50.

Anything else and the natural end result is finals and semi finals which resemble a home game for the old firm

That was at the height of Omicron just before Christmas. A lot of people didn't want to endanger the family Christmas, especially with what had gone on with Covid the previous two years. Fwiw, I was there, but drove through, not risking supporters bus or public transport.

[Pagan Hibernia]

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We came pretty close did we not? I can't picture 2000 or so empty seats at that game.

We did come close. I think we had just over 19,000 at that match, a few hundred un-sold, which in the circumstances mentioned above, was a good turnout

[MWHIBBIES]

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How are clubs supposed to get the evidence for selling out tickets if they are denied the opportunity though?

They aren't denied the opportunity. We've had the Opportunity to sell half the ground plenty of times.

Aberdeen this season, nowhere near it.
Hearts 2022, nope - Hearts sold it no problem.
Aberdeen 2017, nope
Dundee United 2016, nope
Celtic 2017 league cup, nope

Our crowds for semis are poor generally. This is the consequence. Those than bother and genuinely want a ticket will get one in a 19k allocation.

I don't agree with this at all, but we've had plenty chances to sell it and failed.

[Not So Young]

Aberdeen got the same offer as Hearts. They were offered the 50-50 split but they had to agree to paying for any unsold tickets.
Hearts agreed Aberdeen did not