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    What would Montgomery going nuts after every match achieve?
    Maybe he should applaud the referee off the park and give them a bunch of flowers?

    Joking apart, he just comes across as a wet blanket, what referee or SFA bigot will be bothered by his mundane drivel. Sometimes the louder you shout and the more you shout about the injustice it might be an issue and maybe give the refs a second thought before bringing more wrath onto themselves.
    Kind of like what Rangers and Celtic do.


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    Maybe he should applaud the referee off the park and give them a bunch of flowers?

    Joking apart, he just comes across as a wet blanket, what referee or SFA bigot will be bothered by his mundane drivel. Sometimes the louder you shout and the more you shout about the injustice it might be an issue and maybe give the refs a second thought before bringing more wrath onto themselves.
    Kind of like what Rangers and Celtic do.
    At some point it’s going to have to be spoken about,it’s every game now we are on the end of some horrendous refereeing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Biffo View Post
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    Sorry, but I just don't get a lot of the negative comments on here. Surely credit should be due that he spotted his original plan wasn't working and then changed it, a change that saw us control the game and score 2 good goals!

    What happened at the end with the throw-in was a joke and should never have happened, but the players switched off as a result and were punished for it.

    People on here simply do not like Montgomery and never have from the day he walked in. We've played some pretty good football in games recently, and I think he deserves some credit for that despite not always getting the results those displays have deserved.

    That's only my opinion, of course.

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    Maybe he should applaud the referee off the park and give them a bunch of flowers?

    Joking apart, he just comes across as a wet blanket, what referee or SFA bigot will be bothered by his mundane drivel. Sometimes the louder you shout and the more you shout about the injustice it might be an issue and maybe give the refs a second thought before bringing more wrath onto themselves.
    Kind of like what Rangers and Celtic do.
    Doing what Rangers and Celtic do doesn't work for us because we are not Rangers or Celtic. It didn't work for Lennon, all that happened was he had to watch numerous games from the stand and Clancy gave even more decisions against us. On the plus side, IIRC, we had a record of something like 10 wins and 2 draws in the games where Lennon was banned from the dugout.

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    It's not just the points directly lost due to bad decisions, it impacts the confidence that we'd get from a good run. I actually wouldn't be surprised if the numerous bad decisions has caused a build up of frustration amongst the players and was a contributing factor in the 2 red cards v Rangers.
    I agree and if that is the case it's not been an easy time for our manager or his staff and maybe they need our support more now .
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    Doing what Rangers and Celtic do doesn't work for us because we are not Rangers or Celtic. It didn't work for Lennon, all that happened was he had to watch numerous games from the stand and Clancy gave even more decisions against us. On the plus side, IIRC, we had a record of something like 10 wins and 2 draws in the games where Lennon was banned from the dugout.
    So we curl up and say “sorry sir, you must be right, whatever you say we’ll just go on with, it must have been a penalty if you say so” “happy Christmas to all, come and get your presents”. Nah we really need ti grow some balls.

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    So we curl up and say “sorry sir, you must be right, whatever you say we’ll just go on with, it must have been a penalty if you say so” “happy Christmas to all, come and get your presents”. Nah we really need ti grow some balls.
    I'm not saying that. I'm talking about Montgomery's post match interviews.

    If the club are trying to do something about bigotry they might as well also try and do something about the ridiculous situation with 90+% of officials coming from the Glasgow and nearby associations who are too scared to referee games properly because they live amongst all the nutters.
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    Sorry, but I just don't get a lot of the negative comments on here. Surely credit should be due that he spotted his original plan wasn't working and then changed it, a change that saw us control the game and score 2 good goals!

    What happened at the end with the throw-in was a joke and should never have happened, but the players switched off as a result and were punished for it.

    People on here simply do not like Montgomery and never have from the day he walked in. We've played some pretty good football in games recently, and I think he deserves some credit for that despite not always getting the results those displays have deserved.

    That's only my opinion, of course.

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    My opinion too . Good post Biffo 👍

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    Looked totally gutted in the Interview, good half time sub, and dominated the second half, cruel ending
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baldy Foghorn View Post
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    Looked totally gutted in the Interview, good half time sub, and dominated the second half, cruel ending
    He probably knows it is eventually going to cost him his job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Real Emerald View Post
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    Maybe he should applaud the referee off the park and give them a bunch of flowers?

    Joking apart, he just comes across as a wet blanket, what referee or SFA bigot will be bothered by his mundane drivel. Sometimes the louder you shout and the more you shout about the injustice it might be an issue and maybe give the refs a second thought before bringing more wrath onto themselves.
    Kind of like what Rangers and Celtic do.
    Issue is Rangers and Celtic can do we can't

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    Quote Originally Posted by Biffo View Post
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    Sorry, but I just don't get a lot of the negative comments on here. Surely credit should be due that he spotted his original plan wasn't working and then changed it, a change that saw us control the game and score 2 good goals!

    What happened at the end with the throw-in was a joke and should never have happened, but the players switched off as a result and were punished for it.

    People on here simply do not like Montgomery and never have from the day he walked in. We've played some pretty good football in games recently, and I think he deserves some credit for that despite not always getting the results those displays have deserved.

    That's only my opinion, of course.

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    I think he's fuming and has been told not to go overboard.

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    That's how it seemed to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 007 View Post
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    It's not just the points directly lost due to bad decisions, it impacts the confidence that we'd get from a good run. I actually wouldn't be surprised if the numerous bad decisions has caused a build up of frustration amongst the players and was a contributing factor in the 2 red cards v Rangers.
    I actually think it's got to the point where it's totally in our players heads, the ref bias. You can see them being timid in tackles, the defenders particularly, as they instinctively feel that a red card will come out as soon as an opposition player hits the deck.

    Half our team look terrified of tackling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimBHibees View Post
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    Agree
    Wouldn't it be better if his plan wasn't so obviously wrong in the first place?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kato View Post
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    I think he's fuming and has been told not to go overboard.

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    Clearly this probably cannot believe what he has done to be treated so shambolicly by part time officials who are clearly incompetent at what they do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Biffo View Post
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    Sorry, but I just don't get a lot of the negative comments on here. Surely credit should be due that he spotted his original plan wasn't working and then changed it, a change that saw us control the game and score 2 good goals!

    What happened at the end with the throw-in was a joke and should never have happened, but the players switched off as a result and were punished for it.

    People on here simply do not like Montgomery and never have from the day he walked in. We've played some pretty good football in games recently, and I think he deserves some credit for that despite not always getting the results those displays have deserved.

    That's only my opinion, of course.

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    Sssssshhhh don’t speak sense mate, won’t go down well today. After all, with 10 outfield players including a full defence still on the pitch, still be able to fully concentrate, close down space, defend a cross and do the simple thing in football and mark and pick up your man, of course it’s the managers fault 😂

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    Quote Originally Posted by VoltaireHibs View Post
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    Wouldn't it be better if his plan wasn't so obviously wrong in the first place?
    Matter of opinion we played ok against Rangers with similar set up. Changed it and we were much better. Probably concern whether Alf fit enough to start a game at present.

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    Quote Originally Posted by truehibernian View Post
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    Sssssshhhh don’t speak sense mate, won’t go down well today. After all, with 10 outfield players including a full defence still on the pitch, still be able to fully concentrate, close down space, defend a cross and do the simple thing in football and mark and pick up your man, of course it’s the managers fault 😂
    Absolutely

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    Quote Originally Posted by truehibernian View Post
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    Sssssshhhh don’t speak sense mate, won’t go down well today. After all, with 10 outfield players including a full defence still on the pitch, still be able to fully concentrate, close down space, defend a cross and do the simple thing in football and mark and pick up your man, of course it’s the managers fault 😂
    If it was a one off then you can put it down to player error. The fact it happens regularly is down to our ineffectual manager.

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    Welsh was a massive loss last night, didn't help

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    Quote Originally Posted by VoltaireHibs View Post
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    If it was a one off then you can put it down to player error. The fact it happens regularly is down to our ineffectual manager.
    Not the 11 professional footballers that should be fully concentrating until the final whistle no ? Had they been fully concentrating on their job and not arguing the throw in decision it was an avoidable goal - that’s down to the players and captain not the manager.

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    Am still raging at the two preventable goals we conceded
    Add to that we rarely score three goals in a game and it’s clear why we haven’t won many games under Monty
    But losing late goals is nothing new for us Cadden reaction to Youan fir just strolling back and not getting to Yanda showed he cared
    Why did Monty leave him on when we know he is likely to do that
    Stevenson would of bust a gut to get back

    The Team just seemed to switch off collectively then when we realised what was happening players were all over the shop
    Triantis going off was a blow as he had been immense in his new role Thoughtbi better finish on.a positive

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    Quote Originally Posted by truehibernian View Post
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    Not the 11 professional footballers that should be fully concentrating until the final whistle no ? Had they been fully concentrating on their job and not arguing the throw in decision it was an avoidable goal - that’s down to the players and captain not the manager.
    Well maybe if the manager could pick a starting 11 that made sense we wouldn't need to be defending a throw in at that point to win the game?

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    Match and VAR officials really seem to have it in for us. There are two factors which I think are significant. Firstly, we are an Edinburgh team. I know from experience just how deep the animosity is against the city throughout Scotland can be. Secondly, we have Irish Catholic origins. Before anyone mentions Celtic are similar and they seem to do quite well; they are just too big and powerful to be repressed. Unfortunately not so for Hibs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Criswell View Post
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    Match and VAR officials really seem to have it in for us. There are two factors which I think are significant. Firstly, we are an Edinburgh team. I know from experience just how deep the animosity is against the city throughout Scotland can be. Secondly, we have Irish Catholic origins. Before anyone mentions Celtic are similar and they seem to do quite well; they are just too big and powerful to be repressed. Unfortunately not so for Hibs.
    I always insist to Celtic fans that there origins lay 100% in Edinburgh. They don't like that one bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by truehibernian View Post
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    Not the 11 professional footballers that should be fully concentrating until the final whistle no ? Had they been fully concentrating on their job and not arguing the throw in decision it was an avoidable goal - that’s down to the players and captain not the manager.
    The manager left a man on the pitch who cannot be trusted to concentrate on his defensive job fully, and has proved that several times this season already he has it in him to cost us points late on in games by failing to do so. That is a clear managerial mistake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaMotta View Post
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    The manager left a man on the pitch who cannot be trusted to concentrate on his defensive job fully, and has proved that several times this season already he has it in him to cost us points late on in games by failing to do so. That is a clear managerial mistake.
    His biggest mistake was starting without a recognised striker against a team who were always gonna play stuffy, hard to beat and defensive.

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    No issue at all with what he's said.

    Clearly trying to not say (like the past few post game interviews) we've been a bit shafted by a crucial refereeing decision.

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    Yup .. and that should not be for the manager to call out anymore … it’s became more than that …we are talking consistently every single match after match after match wrong referee decisions …

    If we had an honest scottish football system, with honest referees ..then they would be admitting their “mistakes” - if they actually were that - and stating exactly what they would do to rectify it so there was no repeat … match after match after match … but all you get is either silence mostly, with the odd defensive statement now and then. But no truth, or action, ever. That, in itself, is clear evidence for those with open and honest vision.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 007 View Post
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    What would Montgomery going nuts after every match achieve?
    Fans would feel he was standing up to cheating on our behalf, creating a them and us mentality and showing his strength and loyalty. Can you imagine of Jim McLean had suffered the cheating referees we have faced

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