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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibernian Verse View Post
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    Which blueprint? The Scottish Cup winning team that couldn't get out the Championship?
    Season 1 - Hearts go up
    Season 2 - Rangers go up
    Season 3- Hibs go up.

    That team would absolutely wipe the floor with our current team.


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  3. #122
    Quote Originally Posted by Hibernian Verse View Post
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    Ah the old solid Scottish Spine. What a load of xenophobic rubbish. Here is the top 3 and their Scottish spines in their last outing.

    1st Rangers - Butland, Goldson, Souttar, Lundstram, Diomande, Dessers. One Scot.
    2nd Celtic - Hart, Welsh, Scales, Iwata, Idah. One Scot.
    3rd Hearts - Gordon, Rowles, Sibbick, Devlin, Baningime, Grant, Shankland. Two Scots.

    Out of 18 players from back to front in the "spine" there were 4 scots.

    We need better players, it doesn't matter where they're from.
    I think it’s unfair to suggest that someone saying we could do with Scottish experience is being Xenophobic.

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    I genuinely think a decent manager would be getting much better results with our current squad, even with the players out injured or suspended.

    Look at last night's starting eleven. When it was announced, and when we saw how they were set up, it was obvious to almost everybody that it was wrong... but our manager took until half time to work that out.

    Plus our 'game management' when ahead is atrocious.

  5. #124
    Quote Originally Posted by Hibernian Verse View Post
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    Which blueprint? The Scottish Cup winning team that couldn't get out the Championship?
    😂

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaulGoodman View Post
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    I think it’s unfair to suggest that someone saying we could do with Scottish experience is being Xenophobic.
    Fair comment.

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    Season 1 - Hearts go up
    Season 2 - Rangers go up
    Season 3- Hibs go up.

    That team would absolutely wipe the floor with our current team.
    So Hearts & Rangers were better than the magnificent Scottish blueprint we had.

  7. #126
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    So Hearts & Rangers were better than the magnificent Scottish blueprint we had.
    Yes.

    I mean no.

    Well, maybe.

    Stop playing your mind games with me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brooster View Post
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    I think he will be here next season, he's proved recently he can get a tune out of better players. Referees and VAR haven't helped but yes we should be seeing games out.

    He won't get sacked just because a few .netters get outraged at losing a late equaliser.
    Totally agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brooster View Post
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    I think he will be here next season, he's proved recently he can get a tune out of better players. Referees and VAR haven't helped but yes we should be seeing games out.

    He won't get sacked just because a few .netters get outraged at losing a late equaliser.
    Has he? The results are still awful.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Brooster View Post
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    I think he will be here next season, he's proved recently he can get a tune out of better players. Referees and VAR haven't helped but yes we should be seeing games out.

    He won't get sacked just because a few .netters get outraged at losing a late equaliser.
    Aye that's why folk want him sacked, because of one game last night. Nothing to do with the way we've been managed since he joined.

    He's not going to keep his job just because a few .netters cannae see he's useless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    Has he? The results are still awful.


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    And he's not even "getting a tune" out of the better players. Marcondes looks a real quality player, but he's been dug meat the last few games.

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    So Hearts & Rangers were better than the magnificent Scottish blueprint we had.
    To be fair Hearts had a bit of a Scottish blueprint in their winning team that had also benefited from a years worth of experience in the Prem the year before. Guys like Neil Alexander, Patterson, Danny Wilson, Jamie Walker, Sam Nicholson, and James Keatings. But then they had not just Scottish guys but experience Scottish Football men like Gomis and Buaben as well.

    Rangers the year after had Lee Wallace, Andy Halliday, Barrie Mackay, Danny Wilson again, Kenny Miller, Jason Holt.

    I won't pretend all these guys are the best players I've ever seen but both sides had Scottish football experience to help newer guys adapt easier. I think we had that with Paul, Lewy, Daz, Gray, Allan, Boyle. But that's begun to chip away over the years and now you'd probably say the likes of Newell and Boyle are the most experienced out of those that now play with Paul and Lewy about to likely leave. Even Marsh hadn't even played up here for about 15 years.

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    And he's not even "getting a tune" out of the better players. Marcondes looks a real quality player, but he's been dug meat the last few games.
    I’ll excuse him for being played out of position. But he was poor in his actual position at home to Ross County and not much better in his 45 minutes there against them last night.

    Plenty to be critical of Montgomery for, but sometimes it’s on the players as well. Marcondes been poor since Tynecastle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by B.H.F.C View Post
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    I’ll excuse him for being played out of position. But he was poor in his actual position at home to Ross County and not much better in his 45 minutes there against them last night.

    Plenty to be critical of Montgomery for, but sometimes it’s on the players as well. Marcondes been poor since Tynecastle.
    Maolida was pretty awful last night too - fine goal obviously, but I'd struggle to remember a successful pass. Was like he couldn't handle the pitch with all the clipped passes flying way off target.

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    Has he? The results are still awful.


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    Of the last five unbeaten in the league, which results have been awful? Draws at Pittodrie and Tynecastle are always acceptable and were it not for dismal refereeing decisions we could have won both those games. Not winning last night was disappointing but again we've rarely had it easy at Dingwall and again we were screwed by a bewildering mistake by the officials. The two home wins were what we would expect (but have often failed to achieve under plenty of previous managers).

    Losing (unluckily) at home to Celtic in the league and Rangers in the cup are hardly 'awful' results.

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    Maolida was pretty awful last night too - fine goal obviously, but I'd struggle to remember a successful pass. Was like he couldn't handle the pitch with all the clipped passes flying way off target.
    Agree on Maolida. Wasted a few good positions but really good goal.

    Pitch wasn’t good last night. Standing next to it, it looked rock hard and the ball was firing about on it.

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    My oh my - out the cup and 2 points dropped away and its pant wetting central again!

    I should have known- the fact that in both games we were on the wrong end of abominable officiating would make no difference to the sack-the-manager brigade - they are just not happy unless their mattress is damp.

    Season is 100% NOT over - plenty still to play for and I'll keep my powder dry re Monty until its all over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by basehibby View Post
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    My oh my - out the cup and 2 points dropped away and its pant wetting central again!

    I should have known- the fact that in both games we were on the wrong end of abominable officiating would make no difference to the sack-the-manager brigade - they are just not happy unless their mattress is damp.

    Season is 100% NOT over - plenty still to play for and I'll keep my powder dry re Monty until its all over.
    Agree with that

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    Quote Originally Posted by basehibby View Post
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    My oh my - out the cup and 2 points dropped away and its pant wetting central again!

    I should have known- the fact that in both games we were on the wrong end of abominable officiating would make no difference to the sack-the-manager brigade - they are just not happy unless their mattress is damp.

    Season is 100% NOT over - plenty still to play for and I'll keep my powder dry re Monty until its all over.
    Having read this post I almost forgot he’s managed 30 games and not 2.

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    Has he? The results are still awful.


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    Look at our results since the new guys and the Australian guys have all been in the team then come back to tell me the results have been awful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stubbsy90+2 View Post
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    Having read this post I almost forgot he’s managed 30 games and not 2.
    Yip, it's the long knee jerk I've ever had. Taken about 5 months. I need to be more considered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brooster View Post
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    Look at our results since the new guys and the Australian guys have all been in the team then come back to tell me the results have been awful.
    League form

    Played 29
    Won 8
    Drawn 11
    Lost 10

    Those are the only stats that matter at this point.

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    Yip, it's the long knee jerk I've ever had. Taken about 5 months. I need to be more considered.
    The fact he's not had a pre -season and only one transfer window ( the hardest one ) as well as numerous injuries to key players plus some horrendously bad decisions recently that's cost us enough points to have seen us sitting in 4th spot at this stage should be taken into account alright . Sad thing is though I think some have already made their mind up in he should go without giving him a chance .

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    6th is not total failure.
    Umm...

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    Quote Originally Posted by One Day Soon View Post
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    Umm...
    You've actually got to rub your eyes after reading it to make sure that you've read it properly.

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    League form

    Played 29
    Won 8
    Drawn 11
    Lost 10

    Those are the only stats that matter at this point.
    That wasn't the question. Have results improved lately. The answer to that is yes, which is what matters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donegal Hibby View Post
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    The fact he's not had a pre -season and only one transfer window ( the hardest one ) as well as numerous injuries to key players plus some horrendously bad decisions recently that's cost us enough points to have seen us sitting in 4th spot at this stage should be taken into account alright . Sad thing is though I think some have already made their mind up in he should go without giving him a chance .
    Shouldn't he be the one telling us that the dog ate his homework rather than you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by He's here! View Post
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    That wasn't the question. Have results improved lately. The answer to that is yes, which is what matters.
    Can you tell me what good results he's got lately. I e. Results that we shouldn't routinely expect?

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    Quote Originally Posted by One Day Soon View Post
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    Shouldn't he be the one telling us that the dog ate his homework rather than you?
    😅 Spot on. But...but...but...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donegal Hibby View Post
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    The fact he's not had a pre -season and only one transfer window ( the hardest one ) as well as numerous injuries to key players plus some horrendously bad decisions recently that's cost us enough points to have seen us sitting in 4th spot at this stage should be taken into account alright . Sad thing is though I think some have already made their mind up in he should go without giving him a chance .
    There are some who made their mind up as soon as he was appointed.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Northernhibee View Post
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    There are some who made their mind up as soon as he was appointed.
    Not me, I supported his appointment, and I defended him at times, I can see why we made it too, catch someone on the way up etc. But it hasn't worked, on any metric. No shame in admitting it has been a poor appointment. And it has.

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