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14-03-2024 08:29 AM #61SCOTTISH CUP WINNERS 2016
GGTTH
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14-03-2024 08:37 AM #63
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I’m fed up of ‘context’ to be honest. Jack Ross was abysmal towards the end of his reign. Folk claimed it wasn’t his fault because he wasn’t backed. Shaun Maloney came in and was crap. It wasn’t his fault as he wasn’t backed. LJ came in and had to deal with injuries, so it wasn’t his fault. NM has come in and had bad decisions, so it’s not his fault.
If the results aren’t good enough, then the results aren’t good enough. Get someone in who can win games, even if other teams steal some yards at a throw in.Last edited by Stubbsy90+2; 14-03-2024 at 09:14 AM.
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14-03-2024 08:37 AM #64
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14-03-2024 08:39 AM #65This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Referee mistakes are normal. VAR interpretations can be weird. This amount of both in such a short time is not normal.
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14-03-2024 08:47 AM #66This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
It's getting like the posts we used to see about Scott Allan not getting a game in his last season.
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14-03-2024 08:49 AM #67This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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14-03-2024 09:04 AM #68This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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14-03-2024 09:06 AM #69This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Are we to play as though every decision goes against us until it doesn't?"...when Hibs won the Scottish Cup final and that celebration, Sunshine on Leith? I don’t think there’s a better football celebration ever in the game.”
Sir Alex Ferguson
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14-03-2024 09:09 AM #70
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When it comes to the 98th minute of a game that you’re winning by a goal, I’d suggest the second it became clear RC were chancing their arm at getting the throw in that we absolutely should have been playing as if the decision had went against us. Yes, it was our throw in, but we completely failed to react. They done the opposite and scored.
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14-03-2024 09:12 AM #71This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Are you serious? I think a number of us want a manager who can set us up properly before the game starts or, failing that, quickly make adjustments based upon what we all see with our own eyes once a game has started.
I think we'd like someone who, in parallel with the material improvement in players at his disposal, can achieve a material improvement in results.
I think we'd also like someone who, having signed his first pick to improve our central defence, managed to actually improve our central defence with the player he has specifically signed to do so.
And finally I think we'd like someone who, despite all the hard luck stories in the world (it's the injuries, it's the refs, it's international duty, the system will come right eventually), would start to bank some form and some results that look like we are improving as a team and a squad.
So, this is not "almighty overreaction every time we as much as drop a point", it's an appropriate reaction given that this is now a pretty settled pattern of underachievement, inconsistency and very poor managerial decisions.
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14-03-2024 09:13 AM #72
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14-03-2024 09:16 AM #73This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
We could also have been sitting 4th if we hadn't been so monumentally crap in many, many games throughout the season where (insert reason that isn't Nick Montgomery here) hadn't done us in.
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14-03-2024 09:20 AM #74This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
But. It was a throw in given the wrong way then taken 15 yards upfield within seconds. VAR should have intervened as there is a glaring error leading up to a goal.
Do you think NM is to blame for evey ref error against us recently which has cost us points.
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14-03-2024 09:27 AM #75This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I also think it was human beings who have been playing football for nearly 100 minutes, bodies and minds are tired and you see the ball go out for a throw and think "yes, thats got to be it", and in the split second things change."...when Hibs won the Scottish Cup final and that celebration, Sunshine on Leith? I don’t think there’s a better football celebration ever in the game.”
Sir Alex Ferguson
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14-03-2024 09:31 AM #76This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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14-03-2024 09:37 AM #78
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I'm not quite sure what happens if Montgomery goes. I don't see what the board have been trying to do over the past few years. Looking around at Hearts, Dundee, St Mirren, Kilmarnock, I don't quite understand why, with the resources we have, we've been so (mostly) ***** the past 4 years. I think Montgomery has made mistakes, but that doesn't mean he's the wrong guy for the job. For the most part this still isn't his squad. Arguably he shouldn't have tried to overhaul the squad mid-season, but I can see why he'd think it was necessary. Then again, he's back to tinkering with his set ups, which annoys me.
All that said, his coat will be on a shaky peg. Foley/Black Knight will be watching closely and won't trust him with the summer transfer budget unless he has an astoundingly good run in after this.
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14-03-2024 09:41 AM #79This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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14-03-2024 09:49 AM #80
The standard of reffing has been awful but we are currently…
20 points behind Hearts..
7 points behind St Mirren..
6 points behind Killie
1 point behind Dundee
3 points ahead of Motherwell.
We really struggle to win 2 league games in a row.
In the next 4 games Rangers away we will lose - but all 3 other games are winnable but tonight.. Livi fighting to stay up..Levein and saints..and Motherwell who have been in good form and trying to make top 6.
If we don’t make top 6 it’s a shambles. 4th is possible but the draw last night means we need to basically win Livi - Saints and Motherwell at least plus win some games in top 6 split if we make it.
If the inconsistency continues we could easily be bottom 6 or finish 6 which again is seriously under achieving.
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14-03-2024 09:52 AM #81This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Correct, dressed up as Moneyball.
But it's been more like roulette, and they keep betting on 00 green thinking they're very, very clever boys. Narrator's voice: They're not.
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14-03-2024 09:54 AM #82
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14-03-2024 09:57 AM #83
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If we'd been given a fair shake by referees I feel Hibs would be 7-8 points, at least, better off. Would this thread be here if that were the case?
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14-03-2024 09:59 AM #84This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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14-03-2024 09:59 AM #85
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I think the days of us trying to assemble a solid Scottish spine, who know exactly what it takes to compete in this country, are gone -, as we scour the far corners of the globe looking for the next superstar.
Read recently that we’re aiming to reduce our squad average age - for me, that’s one of our biggest issues. The age profile / inexperience of our defence in particular is a massive reason for our struggles this season.
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14-03-2024 10:02 AM #86This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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14-03-2024 10:04 AM #87This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
You can see we are building a team now and we are playing far better. Last night is a sore one to take, but take these dodgy decisions that seem to be going against us away and we are probably sitting 4th and the manager is getting praise.Last edited by MrRobot; 14-03-2024 at 10:08 AM.
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14-03-2024 10:06 AM #88This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
1st Rangers - Butland, Goldson, Souttar, Lundstram, Diomande, Dessers. One Scot.
2nd Celtic - Hart, Welsh, Scales, Iwata, Idah. One Scot.
3rd Hearts - Gordon, Rowles, Sibbick, Devlin, Baningime, Grant, Shankland. Two Scots.
Out of 18 players from back to front in the "spine" there were 4 scots.
We need better players, it doesn't matter where they're from.
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14-03-2024 10:14 AM #89
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The best Hibs sides have always had a good core of Scottish players.
Hearts 2 best players are Scottish, and a big part of the reason that they find themselves sealing 3rd in Feb and into another Scottish Cup semi.
We’ve been dicking about for years trying to be too clever, similar to Aberdeen in that regard actually. Both with managerial appointments and player recruitment.
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14-03-2024 10:16 AM #90
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Correct, he may still be rusty after a long spell out but I definitely wouldn't be bursting my budget on him. Needs to be way more dominant and effective for the money folk are talking about. Also he's not getting any younger so won't get any more mobile and the one thing the SPL requires if midfielders is high energy and mobility. No-one gets to stroll around, doesn't matter what skill level you have. I would add Maolida to this. More Moriah-Welsh types, less show ponies please.
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